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    Of Blood Traitors and Mongrel Children

    Hi I am new here. For those who didn't see my previous posts my name is Cjgreenwolf. I am of primarily Scandinavian heritage but I am a Canadian. Most of my family has been here for several generations.

    I am writing this post because I am seeing a lot of white supremacy on this board. I get it I really do. I was brought up staunchly NDP in a very leftist oriented family and I can almost hear my father rolling in his grave as I start crossing the proverbial floor to conservative.

    However What I am concerned about is how white is white and whom are you calling a blood traitor? I am married to a french Canadian (no not Quebec French --Alberta French there really is a difference! ) This means however that his family is mixed with the Aboriginal First Nations people of Canada. To many of you here I could be considered a blood traitor and my children mongrels. I find that completely unacceptable--- at least I would if I truly cared about what you think. But here is the thing I don't, not really, how can I? I don't know you.

    This isn't about me and mine so much as the idea itself. White pride and racial and cultural purity. I understand the concept and the reason behind it. On some level I actually agree up to a point. The point is ancestry who are your ancestors what did they do? Who are the old Gods and what was their game?

    As I understand it our ancestors were most of them conquerors and tradesmen they went on raids and brought back exotic women and men as slaves and some of them wound up free and intermarried with the Norsemen and the other Germanic peoples and had children. They left their imprint and DNA among a lot of they cultures they traded and raided including the northern people of Canada and even today Greenland. Would you stand up and call our ancestors, YOUR ancestors, blood traitors and those children mongrels? If you trace back your own ancestry can you with 100% certainty say your blood is not mixed? Even 90%? If this is not so then at least one of your ancestors or more depending would be a blood traitor and your blood as such is tainted.

    Lets take a look at the old Gods. The Aesir (sp?) what I believe is known as the Asgard often intermarried with the giants who were there first, most of them were not blonde haired and blue eyed to my understanding. I could be wrong and am completely open to polite correction as I am not trying to attack anyone or this site for that matter. I am clarifying a few points to the best of my understanding and exorcising my freedom of speech and ideas.

    I find it ironic that this site is named for Skadi and a lot of white supremacists hang out here. Skadi is my personal Goddess. Although she is often depicted having blonde hair and blue eyes she was a frost giantess not an Aesir and I have seen more descriptions of her having dark hair than blonde. My point is that many of our Gods did marry out of their race and culture. Who among you is not an atheist and believes in the Old Ones and is willing to say that they are blood traitors because this is what they would be according to some.

    It is not the mixing of the blood that causes the problems because the Gods know (as does science) that too much line breeding causes more problems than inter-racial marriages. It was not the blood stock so much as the religious zeal from the east that went through like a pestilence that destroyed our culture. Just as the Vikings sacked and burned monasteries in Ireland and subsequently lost a great deal of history so did the Christian reign of terror destroy so much of our precious knowledge of the old Gods and writings. Just as the new reign of terror is wiping out our culture now.

    As long as mankind has existed there has been waves of conquerors with the idea of "kill them all and let God sort them out" and the next favorite ideal is "if you can't beat down the rebellion you breed it out". And there in lies the path of mixed races.

    Don't get me wrong, I do not, will not, buy into the white guilt and those who do infuriate me to no end it is another form of racism pure and simple. I come from dirt farmers and miners and men who scratched a living until they died too young. My father was a school teacher and a principal who also died too young. To my knowledge we had no slaves since the days of viking and I will not be held accountable for something my ancient ancestors may or may not have done. I will not be white shamed but nor am I a blood traitor for taking a husband of mixed heritage.

    So that is where I am at. Perhaps I am in the wrong forum if I am, I will respectfully take my leave. If not then perhaps I can add food for thought and meaningful conversation.

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    You'll find varying degrees of opinion pertaining to the question of racial purity on this board. Hard-liners are opposed to any non-Germanic genetic input, which has to be verified using a mixture of arbitrary sub-racial categorization and scientifically sourced genetic study. A broader consensus is that some genetic variability is ok, so long as it's not non-European. Let's face it, most of us in the forum, particularly those of us who live in the "new world" have mixed lineages. What's most important is our emphasis on maintaining our bloodlines in congruence with our beliefs over culture and the wider socio-political landscape. This means finding a love life and eventually having children with people who are most like us: Germanic. (What is Germanic? is a topic for another thread, which has probably already been made.)

    I suppose your question can be summarized at where do we draw the line?
    That's ultimately up to every individual. The majority of us here are right-wing, right-leaning, or at the very least anti-liberal/leftist. We are opposed to the practice of miscegenation, particularly as it pertains to its high profile in mass media, as we believe that race is central to a society and culture. Homogeneous societies are healthier and better functioning societies. Mixed communities tend to fracture, marginalize, and eventually in-fight for dominance by a minority over a given majority. As it then goes, mixed marriages lead to disharmony, albeit this is a case by case, but by in large alienate their offspring to their peers and even family members. Thus it behooves you to find a mate who is genetically similar to you. The odd native-american ancestry isn't usually a deterrent to racially minded folks, as it's very common in North America. Or so it seems by white people who gleefully extoll their 1/18th Cherokee nation that flows through their veins. I'm usually skeptical about the genetic impact.

    I'm curious how you define white supremacy. Our opponents call us white supremacists because they believe we hold that whites should rule over every race because of an innate superiority. This term is a distraction to our real central interest: to maintain sovereignty over our ancestral nations we already have. In a word, we simply want to be.
    Our governments and societies have been hijacked by (our own) people and certain racial others whose interests are that of diminishing the white majority and implementation of marxist-socialist utopia. They do this via unabated and encouraged third world immigration, mind-conditioning in academia & the television/film/music industry, and legislation aimed at stripping constitutionally granted freedoms and liberties to protect freedom of speech and privacy, aimed at targeting dissidents like us who question their brave new world.
    In a climate that is openly hostile to the very being a white European, I can think of no better or nobler option than to oppose and fight the zeitgeist of globalism and liberalism at every turn.

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    Two facts.
    There is no such thing as a pure race.
    And people of all kinds are not interchangable, this is not Star Trek.

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    I'm unsure if this is real or troll bait but I'll bite.

    If you as a white female, the product of eons of evolution and the end of a bloodline that might have gone on for thousands of years, decide to not contribute to the continued existence of your own people by bearing white children but instead contributed to the demise of your people by producing mixed-race mongrels - then yes, you're a race traitor, a blood traitor.

    You can make up your own mind as to whether that applies to you or not.

    The rest of your post is you grasping at straws trying to twist reality so you can justify your behavior. Point for point:

    1) "Our ancestors totally scoured the planet to fetch *exotic* people to miscegenate with."

    I'm sure the televitzor device told you as much when watching "Vikings" for instance. That doesn't make it true though. There's some serious cognitive dissonance required to look at Scandinavians, Germans or any other white Europeans and come to think "Well, these fine folks sure look like they're the product of race-mixing with negroes, asians or latinos, whodathunkit."

    2) "The Aesir did race-mix with frost giants ergo race-mixing is great, let's all do it!"

    First of all - your opinion about the looks of the Aesir or Jötunns is stupid. How did you arrive there anyway? Did a google image search? (OMFG Heimdall was a negro???) Received this valuable intel straight out of the electric Jew?

    The Edda describes the looks of different beings only in general terms at best. Skadi for instance is only described as "bright" and "fair". Fair as in blond, beautiful, light. Her exact hair, skin, eye color is not mentioned.

    Furthermore, has it ever occurred to you that there might be no "racial" difference between the Aesir and the frost giants? As far as the concept of race is applicable to deities anyway?

    Odin's father was Börr, an ice giant, his mother Bestla, another ice giant.
    :shocked:
    Can it be the Aesir were just a special group of giants? It's like the Greek mythology all over again where the new deities lead by Zeus defeated the old "Titans" (giants), who where - hold your breath - their own parents.

    So no, the Germanic gods did not race-mix and while the Aesir, Vanir and frost giants are different factions, they're not racially different. Again, as far as it is even possible to apply a concept of race to deities.

    3) "Race-mixing does not cause problems"
    Yes it does. The fact that extensive race-mixing will lead to our disappearance, will lead to our destruction, will lead to the loss of a people that is unique and distinct is already problem enough. But that's only the start of it.

    Can't you see how mixing Germans, for instance, with an average IQ of 105 with third world negros with an average IQ of 75 to produce some sort of mulatto population with an average IQ of 85 might be detrimental to the first world civilization they have going? But you don't have to do any guess work. There is readily available empirical data how such a mulatto nation looks like, just look at Brazil. Crime, violence, poverty, dirt. A shit-hole. And yet, even in Brazil there are places like Santa Cruz do Sul or Blumenau and Pomerode, places that are clean and tidy and look just like any first world nation. I wonder if you can figure out what the difference is between those places and the rest of the cloaca that is Brazil.

    People like you are the vanguard of our destruction. It was interesting to see to what length a race-mixer will go to justify her own despicable behaviour.
    *The Aesir did race-mix, so it's all good* It boggles the mind.

    When I come to power, I will strip all race-mixers off their citizenship and force them to live among the negroes, asians or latinos they preferred over a member of their own race. Of course, that's just, like, my opinion, man.

    Hope that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cjgreenwolf View Post
    As I understand it our ancestors were most of them conquerors and tradesmen they went on raids and brought back exotic women and men as slaves and some of them wound up free and intermarried with the Norsemen and the other Germanic peoples and had children.
    There's nothing exotic about Frankish and Saxon slaves. I'm not aware of Vikings kidnapping and enslaving people from Indian tribes, if they did it can only have been a handful of them since modern Scandinavians can hardly be called mixed race nations.

    Would you stand up and call our ancestors, YOUR ancestors, blood traitors and those children mongrels? If you trace back your own ancestry can you with 100% certainty say your blood is not mixed? Even 90%? If this is not so then at least one of your ancestors or more depending would be a blood traitor and your blood as such is tainted.
    Some of our ancestors had bad ideas, some were traitors to their tribe/nation and some had interracial marriages. As far as continental Germanics is concerned: any exotic race mixing happened very recent or in the distant past. In the first case one would almost certainly know about it and in the latter it hardly matters. It's quite irrelevant for an ethnonationalist today. The North-American/colonial case is barely different, the vast majority of Anglosaxons are not of mixed descent either. In North-America too race mixing is a novelty and a sign of cultural decay.

    Lets take a look at the old Gods. The Aesir (sp?) what I believe is known as the Asgard often intermarried with the giants who were there first, most of them were not blonde haired and blue eyed to my understanding. I could be wrong and am completely open to polite correction as I am not trying to attack anyone or this site for that matter. I am clarifying a few points to the best of my understanding and exorcising my freedom of speech and ideas. (...) My point is that many of our Gods did marry out of their race and culture.
    You hair/eye color does not determine your race. Nor that of the gods of the Norse pantheon. And even if all of them were black, it's still no argument in favor of race mixing. I'm not a follower of Norse pagan religion but I've never heard of Norse gods marrying outside of their race - although being gods one wonders "which race?". Still, the pagans from history probably envisioned them in their own image.

    It is not the mixing of the blood that causes the problems because the Gods know (as does science) that too much line breeding causes more problems than inter-racial marriages.
    This problem doesn't exist anymore, we don't live in neolithic communities numbering less than 30 souls. You got millions, tens of millions of safe options to marry within your own race.

    I don't say: leave your husband and children behind, on the contrary. However, you're trying to justify your life decisions that can't be approved of from an ethnonationalist/preservationist point of view. There's nothing that says "to hell with my ancestors" like breeding outside of one's race, regardless of what you think or which god(s) you believe in.

    And maybe you understand that as well, maybe you're only aware of it subconsciously, but the fact that you joined this community to talk about precisely this subject reveals your insecurity and a desire for approval from dedicated pagans and ethnonationalists.
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    I have just one simple question for Cjgreenwolf:

    You must have read some of the threads on this forum before you decided to join, and you must have known how every standing and participating member here feels about miscegenation, why did you join here?

    I am the least person that believes in so called "safe places" in the sense modern SJWs do, but at the same time this is our home. When I mean "our" it means us that our main desire is to preserve Germanics. So, yes I do take great offense to a Tipi crawler joining here. Yes, I do feel my race and heritage are superior, and so I should because I am not a self hating person. Yes, I do love my fellow Germanics even if I don't agree with them on everything they are still my people. Am I racist?... well yes of course I am and I am proud of it, so please do not come here to try and shame us or lay your guilt or justification on us, those things quit working long ago on many of us here.
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    No I am not trying to shame anyone and my white supremacist comment was for lack of a better term. My apologies, as I said I don't buy into the white guilt and since I just had a VERY frustrating conversation with an immigrant on the telephone over health benefits that she gets automatically and I don't qualify for even though I am low income because wait for ....I'M WHITE!!! I am ready to get on the band wagon and shame my parents because really Enough! I honestly only caught a post or two before I impulsively signed up I was more asking about where do we draw the line and as I did also say feel free to correct me on my scant knowledge of history and what I understood. I thought Skadi was shadow or harm. And Freya was the bright shining one. I also thought the Jotun were considered a very different race much like the Inuit or the Sami (sp?) of Finland. My apologies I meant no offense, I do tend to ramble sometimes and come off a lot more preachy than I intend to. I think it is fascinating actually but please understand I am new to this way of thinking it's like a person born and raised in the Christian religion embracing paganism for the first time part of you is sure you're going to Hell and the other part doesn't give a rats ass and figures that the God who sends you there wasn't worth worshiping anyway.
    It's hard to deprogram but the more the liberal agenda is thrown in my teeth the angrier I become.

    Although I do object at being called a tipi crawler I guess it is no more than I deserve for saying white supremacist so we'll call it even because the hubby is really maybe an eighth give or take anyway and we do consider ourselves white.

    I don't think we all should mix races personally and I agree that the multicultural lifestyle is not working. Not for you in Europe although the media would tell it otherwise ( I saw people in the Germanic countries burning mosques on you tube and we stood up and cheered and applauded at my house)

    I am frustrated and I am angry and my very liberal roots are trying to find excuses but there are none. In Alberta there is even a toll free number for people to report you for hate crimes if you speak out about Islam or the refugee crisis.

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    You're not very specific about how "mixed" is "mixed." Skadi has had members with some vanishingly small, almost legendary, Amerindian admixture before. You know the sort of thing... supposedly great-grandma lived on the reservation... then you look at a pic of great-grandma and even she is not fully Indian.

    But you don't give percentages. Does your husband identify as metis? Does he look "white?" Did you marry him thinking this was a white guy? You talk about him being "Alberta French," so I did some research. This article is enlightening:

    http://apihtawikosisan.com/2011/12/y...-is-an-indian/

    So Alberta metis are so mixed, most don't know how much they are Indian and how much European. Just for reference, metis is essentially the French equivalent to the term "mestizo."

    Skin color and hair color don't really define racial admixture, either. Look at Cameron Diaz:




    Her coloring is as "white" as it comes, yet her heritage is written in her face. Diaz claims to be 1/8 Cherokee. She actually looks a lot like Kristin Chenoweth, who is supposedly 1/4 Cherokee:



    Now, this is not to say that these are not nice people, and that most would consider them pretty and "white." They also seem to fit in perfectly well in European-American society. Chenoweth is actually very politically conservative. Technically they are "mongrels," though.

    What is the big picture? Would including these two women in a gene pool of several million Germanics be the death knell for our people? No, but if they celebrate their Indian heritage and embrace their alien-ness from us, it just doesn't work. And if the numbers are far greater than a couple of exceptions, you start to have a separate ethnicity and culture on your hands, like the metis.
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    First all, this is not a White Supremacist forum, that is a Stormfront. This is a German Preservationist forum. We do not say that the Germanic people better or more intelligent, etc. what the stormfronters do it. This is a German Preservationist forum to save and carry on own Germanic cultural and genetic heritage.

    I have saw French Canadian on the Internet and in real life and some of them have some Mongolid impact like as many East-European. The main thing is the measure. Chuck Norris, Cameron Diaz, many American have some Amerindid impact, but after generations it has disappeared. Norris and Diaz are handsome/beutiful Nordic Germanic ones.

    A contra example is an old, banned member of this forum, who was Norwegian, minimal Lappid impact by his mother side and it was visible. Her mothers looked alike as Pocahontas. This means the measure.

    So do not be affraid that you husband have a tiny Winnettou in own veins. The North-American Amerinds are the mix of the ancient Mongolid and Europid migrants into North-America side by side the later arrived IInuits are pure Mongolids. This means that your husbands Amerindid ancestor basically had Europid blood. So do not affraid.

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    The idea that raiding Vikings brought back exotic women and had children with them is much conflated, and it was mostly other Europeans from North Western Europe.

    Let’s say a few did, but due to how uncommon it was those foreign looking children and their foreign blood would be washed out over a few generations.
    Unfortunately given the high rate of interracial relationships and low birth rate among Scandinavians today it is now more important than ever that they remain exclusive to stop the ruination of their ethnic identity.

    You say that too much line breeding causes more problems than inter-racial marriages. I say BS unless your only other option was marrying your brother or first cousin which I doubt. There is much diversity among Scandinavians!

    N.B. Statistics indicate interracial marriages have an even greater rate of failure.

    The destruction of Scandinavian ethnic identity is appalling, they are probably the most physically attractive folk on the earth & these folk created a fascinating culture e.g. the folk law which you invoke.

    TBH I think your trolling.
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