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    Could Artificial Intelligence Enslave Humanity or Make Us Extinct?

    Researchers at Oxford University have produced the first list of global risks ‘that pose a threat to human civilisation, or even possibly to all human life.’

    The report focuses on risks with ‘impacts that for all practical purposes can be called infinite’.

    Artificial Intelligence (AI) is on it.

    And while human extinction might be a horrific, accidental side effect of climate change, a metorite impact or a super volcano, the report warns that AI might decide to cause our extinction deliberately (my emphasis):

    ...extreme intelligences could not easily be controlled (either by the groups creating them, or by some international regulatory regime), and would probably act to boost their own intelligence and acquire maximal resources for almost all initial AI motivations.

    And if these motivations do not detail the survival and value of humanity, the intelligence will be driven to construct a world without humans. This makes extremely intelligent AIs a unique risk, in that extinction is more likely than lesser impacts.

    AI is included, along with nanotechnology and synthetic biology, in a category of emerging risks. The emerging risks are poorly understood but also have the potential to solve many of the other problems on the list.

    The threat of AI comes from its potential to run away from us – it’s just possible that AI will end up working on itself and evolve beyond our understanding and control.

    At which point we’d better hope it likes us.

    Oxford University isn’t the first to draw attention to the potential threat posed by super-intelligent computers.

    Elon Musk, the man behind PayPal, Tesla Motors and SpaceX, has warned about the dangers of AI repeatedly. Musk has described it as ‘our biggest existential threat‘ and taken on investments in AI companies just so that he can keep a close eye on what’s going on.

    Speaking to students at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) he likened it to a demon that, once summoned, won’t be controllable:

    With artificial intelligence we are summoning the demon. In all those stories where there’s the guy with the pentagram and the holy water, it’s like - yeah, he’s sure he can control the demon. Doesn’t work out
    Bill Gates backed up Musk’s concerns during an ‘ask me anything’ session on Reddit:

    First the machines will do a lot of jobs for us and not be super intelligent. That should be positive if we manage it well.

    A few decades after that though the intelligence is strong enough to be a concern. I agree with Elon Musk and some others on this and don't understand why some people are not concerned.
    If two of history’s most successful technology entrepreneurs aren’t persuasive enough for you, how about the man they call The Greatest Living Physicist?

    Stephen Hawking, whose speech synthesiser uses a basic form of AI, isn’t a man with a lot of words to spare and when he spoke to the BBC about AI he was characteristically terse:

    The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race.

    Humans, who are limited by slow biological evolution, couldn't compete, and would be superseded.
    Musk and Hawking are also two names among a veritable who’s who of AI luminaries who recently signed an open letter calling for research priorities focused on maximising the societal benefit of AI.

    What all these very intelligent people are reflecting is that we simply can’t predict how AI is going to develop, not least because AI might be a key tool in the development of AI.

    Perhaps the only sensible place to start then is to figure out a way of keeping a close eye on just exactly what is going on.

    Musk has his investments but computer scientist Eric Horvitz is thinking bigger.

    Horvitz has teamed up with Russ Altman, a professor of bioengineering and computer science at Stanford, to create AI100 – a 100-year study into Artificial Intelligence.

    Horvitz and Altman will join five others on a committee that will commission studies into how developments in AI will affects all aspects of human life over a number of generations.

    The committee members will obviously change over time but the committee itself, and the host, are planning to stick around and keep a close eye on things.

    If your goal is to create a process that looks ahead 30 to 50 to 70 years, it's not altogether clear what artificial intelligence will mean, or how you would study it ... But it's a pretty good bet that Stanford will be around
    One of the many things that AI100 will look at is the loss of control of AI systems and whether or not that could give rise to the kind of dystopic outcomes that the Oxford University researchers are trying to focus attention on.

    I can’t help wondering though; if we could look 100 years into the future and witness the final meeting of the AI100 committee, will anyone on it be human?
    https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/201...y-researchers/

    Will Artificial Intelligence Make Us Extinct?

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    AI and VR, it's not looking good.


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    Royal astronomer warns robots will WIPE OUT humans and take over in just a few centuries


    The robot uprising could be complete in just a few centuries.

    That's according to royal astronomer, Sir Martin Rees, who believe machine life will eventually replace humanity.

    He predicts their reign could last billions of years beyond our time on the planet.

    Life on Earth has already taken billions of years to evolve, from the proteins and nucleic acids that were the building blocks of life through to more complex mammals and homo sapiens.

    But machine intelligence has developed at such an extreme pace, that Sir Martin believes the likelihood is alien life will also take this form.

    He sees humanity's time on the planet as an extremely brief transitional phase, between primordial organic life and the era of the machines - what he terms a 'post-human' future.

    The cosmologist argues this could extend for billions of years into the future, particularly if machines are able to explore space free from the confines of needing a planet, it's atmosphere and biosphere to sustain them.

    And - if we do encounter beings from another planet - it will either take the form of more primitive lifeforms or extremely advanced machine intelligence.
    Speaking to The Conversation, Sir Martin said: 'My guess is that if we do detect an alien intelligence, it will be nothing like us. It will be some sort of electronic entity.

    'The period of time occupied by organic intelligence is just a thin sliver between early life and the long era of the machines.

    'Because such civilisations would develop at different rates, it’s extremely unlikely that we will find intelligent life at the same stage of development as us.

    'More likely, that life will still be either far simpler, or an already fully electronic intelligence.'

    As to the impact of contact with aliens, Sir Martin believes that this is unlikely - at least in our current form.

    The Cambridge professor emeritus believes that while we may be able to peer further out into space, travelling to distant worlds will remain out of our reach until we enter the post-human era.

    In his interview with The Conversation, he added: 'The journey times are just too great for mortal minds and bodies.

    'If you’re immortal, however, these distances become far less daunting.
    'That journey will be made by robots, not us.'
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...e-robotic.html

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    I agree that without radical new technology Homo sapiens is restricted to life on Earth and her environs. On the other hand the machine life envisioned in such scenarios seems human in its desires, merely potentially hostile. Would machine life have human dreams such as space exploration?

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    There is a book that deals with that subject. And the answer is that would depend for the most part on it programmed goals. Or how it was created, like for example a so called whole brain emulation.
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    I am not opposed to technological evolution involving robotics for the benefit of society. But I am strictly opposed to any form of so-called transhumanism, or chipping.

    Any attempt to combine our living essence, consciousness, or soul with a machine should scare the hell out of anyone. Death is the normal end-of-life phase for biological organisms. It is my belief that by physically dying, we are able to move on spiritually. But if our eternal souls are captured and trapped in a virtually eternal machine, this will eventually prove to be a dreadful situation for those involved.

    Believe me, everyone needs to look a gift horse in the mouth regarding this subject. You will only be allowed to entertain the illusion of attaining superhuman status by those who actually control you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroeneWolf View Post
    There is a book that deals with that subject. And the answer is that would depend for the most part on it programmed goals. Or how it was created, like for example a so called whole brain emulation.
    Right. Emulated biological brains have human-like qualia. Other AIs don't else we wouldn't be able to discern if they did. It's an interesting case of bioethics: though they may be effectively humans, you can't kill them. This is not just a technicality that they are inorganic. The nearest thing (save physical destruction) would be turning them off, but they could be turned on again. Humans of course may die without physical destruction.

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    Humans will merge "Borg-like" with the machines, that is the only way that we will be able to stay competitive with them.

    I don't see another way.The alternative would be human obsolescence and extinction for all non-cyborgs. Trying to hold back technology never works for long. Eventually the genie always gets out of the bottle.
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    The rise of the machines is pretty much inevitable. Scientific and technological discovery and invention is basically another face of evolution itself; merely evolution which has outgrown the boundaries of DNA. Much like genetic evolution, much is haphazard and left to chance as this discovery is made here, that invention is devised there. And as animals evolve, some abruptly go extinct and others abruptly rise and dominate. So as long as we keep improving machines and increasing the number of things they are capable of doing, it's only a matter of time before there are machines which are fully capable of self-refueling, self-repairing, self-maintaining, self-replicating, and self-governing.

    And after that point in time, there probably will be very little time before the moment arrives when autonomous machines calculate "biological life interferes with the efficiency of machine existence."

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    What's more likely to happen is that humans will be made increasingly redundant, with their jobs taken by machines. This situation will be tolerated in the short term by the rulers of the world. The out of work knaves and serfs will presumably be paid a "living wage" (aka social welfare) to sit at home drinking beer, doing E and playing Playstation.

    In the longer term those billions of surplus humans will be eliminated "to restore the ecological balance and preserve the earth's resources" yada yada yada. That's the real end goal of the Bill Gates's of this world. It probably won't happen in his lifetime, but it may not be that far into the future either. It could be decades.....

    Those who control the world and their extended clans will of course spare themselves from such a fate, and they will inherit the earth.

    The rise of AI, followed by mass genocide and a bizarro future of transhumanist hybrid freaks..... you know it's coming.
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