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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjolnir View Post
    This is the result of feminisation of politics. It is in women's nature to nurture and if there are no strong men present to draw clear lines between who's with the tribe and who's against it this instinct becomes skewed and aims to help everyone, even those most hostile to the Germanic Tribe. You can't blame a woman for wanting to help someone, you blame those who sponsor feminist movements and disappearence of masculinity, promoting pathological behaviours. Merkel is just a tool. We need a King behind whom stands legitimacy through strength and heritage.
    Well, it's the result of inviting savage third-worlders uncontrolled into the country and then even having the audacity of handing them over hard earned taxpayers money with no service in return. Admittedly feminisation may have played into this. She helped "refugees" in her "spare time":
    Ms Ladenburger, a medical student, reportedly worked in her spare time helping out in refugee homes in Freiburg.

    But it is unclear whether she ever met her murderer before the day she died.
    But that's not were the rape-murder happened.

    David Müller, head of the police's Special Commission, said: “Through interviews and a web-based survey, we were able to reconstruct Maria's final hours.
    "The 19-year-old student had been at a party. By 2.37am, she left the party. Maria then cycled home, as usual. The young woman had been the victim of a sexual offence and a violent crime."
    Returning home from a party with a bicycle. Not sure, if the party was attended by "migrants", they/he may just have observed her and decided to strike. Or, that is a probability as well, the "migrant" played sick or injured to get her stop and attend on which he then do his strike that lead to the rape and murder.

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    She knew her murderer from her 'work'.

    So it was a premeditated murder.

    A lot of German girls these days learn their lessons in less lethal ways.

    As she was allowed to vote she was an adult.

    With 19 I was in the military trained and willing to do warfare.

    19 is an age other women have children.

    To find the blame for her murder is an easy game, the father, Merkel, her teachers etc. I don't buy it.

    She was supporting immigrants among them her murderer. If she can't see what the scum is she dealed with, she is responsible for it.

    Legally she wasn't a child.

    And I think that women can see people as well, most likely women are better to assess people.

    Her work was anti German where that ends should be clear for a 19 year old.

    I do hold 19 years old responsible for their decision and that includes girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    She knew her murderer from her 'work'.
    So it was a premeditated murder.
    A lot of German girls these days learn their lessons in less lethal ways.
    It's sad she had to never had a chance to reflect upon the error of her ways because her encounter with 'her' refugees ultimately ended lethal. This doesn't however justify her murder - it makes it all the more tragic: She didn't know better and paid the ultimate price.

    As she was allowed to vote she was an adult
    This is a weak argument, because voting age has been lowered umpteen of times. In Austria we actually even permit schoolkids of 16 to vote in all elections, this doesn't mean we should treat a 16-year-old like an adult in all respects.

    In bygone days majority didn't happen until people were 21 years of age, and perhaps this was very prudent. When I watch most people mature from the shenanigans of their youth, it's a process that's very rarely started before they're 21 and very rarely done after they're 25.

    We might thus actually consider raising the minimum voting age in that respect, if it turns out in the future that young voters and first-time voters aren't generally in a position to understanding the consequences of their actions and/or more susceptible to manipulation.

    With 19 I was in the military trained and willing to do warfare.
    19 is an age other women have children.
    In this day and age nineteen is alas hardly an age most women of our folk have children, because the establishment has been very good in convincing girls that the best time to have children is never, because the patriarchy.

    Nineteen is the age the zeitgeist has set aside for second-semester humanities studies, partying, engaging in social-justice work and promiscuity. So Ms Ladenburger, strange as it may sound, was doing quite what this sick society expected her to do at age 19.

    To find the blame for her murder is an easy game, the father, Merkel, her teachers etc. I don't buy it.
    She was supporting immigrants among them her murderer. If she can't see what the scum is she dealed with, she is responsible for it.
    She was brought up directly by the circles immediately involved with this madness. Then she went off to university which are staunchly the left's playground and where in some studies, people vote up to 80% Greens? Exactly at what moment should one expect her to have reflected upon whether she's been brought up to believe the right things or not?

    When I look at a lot of level-headed people on our side these days, for many of them the "red-pill moment" hadn't occurred until they were in their early or even mid-twenties. Some of them even supported the direct opposite - not because they believed in it but because they've been indoctrinated from a young age that "left-wing is good" and "multi-culturalism is good" and "socialism is good" and "feminism is good" but "nationalism is bad". When they wake up, it's also a process, they're not going to magically wake up and understand that they've been lied to all their lives.

    You really under-estimate the extent of Umerziehung on the behalf of the Frankfurt school in Europe, and you also under-estimate the power of schools on children and young adults in consequence.

    And I think that women can see people as well, most likely women are better to assess people.
    Women are also much more prone to give in to social and/or peer pressure and thus the need to adapt to what is currently the zeitgeist. This is how it's possibly that on one hand women are much more likely to vote for left-wing parties in Western Europe and America these days but at the same time how women are also more likely to vote for Putin and Erdogan, and it could even lend an extra argument why Hitler was particularly popular with women.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

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    In the US women overwhelmingly vote leftist and men overwhelmingly vote republican.

    It needed a Trump to sway the women vote to the right and that only worked to a certain extent.

    That is why on a heathen Thing women had no vote, nor did the male youngsters. It was the male head of a family who voted for his family, sometimes clan/Sippe.

    Women gave their opinions and the family head took that into consideration, the youngsters did the same.

    I agree that 19 year olds shouldn't vote. Esp women who are much easier swayed through their emotions and innate drive to care. (Which is right and good for her family but not outside of it)

    But nevertheless a 19 year old girl can see through the shenaninigans of a stupid ideology. A 19 year old is not void of common sense.

    That girl went to the Gymnasium/Highschool and however bad it is today it still gives you some knowledge and the ability to think. A girl of her age is certainly aware of the struggle which is going on. And I do expect that 19 year olds do not engage in white genocide. And for the ones who do, I have zero compassion, they are soldiers of the race-whose-name-we-should-not mention. If they get back stabbed by the scum they help, than that is the price for being a traitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    In the US women overwhelmingly vote leftist and men overwhelmingly vote republican. [...] It needed a Trump to sway the women vote to the right and that only worked to a certain extent.
    This is a current status quo, to strip women of all voting rights isn't fighting the disease, it's fighting the symptoms. Lack of leadership, lack of Leitkultur, a venomous Zeitgeist. The devil's not in the details, the devil's like a moth eating into a fabric and these women were just the first to fall, whilst men are quickly following suit in voting like a dimwit, look at France or Germany.

    That is why on a heathen Thing women had no vote, nor did the male youngsters. It was the male head of a family who voted for his family, sometimes clan/Sippe.
    For many centuries, it was commonplace that voting rights were tied to owning a given stretch or plot of land. This can't be applied to the current situation as a carbon copy. Perhaps, nonetheless, if the bottom line is the same sentiment, i.e.: "Women shouldn't be allowed to vote, neither should most men", then this is actually an acceptable viewpoint.

    If the viewpoint is: Men should be allowed to vote regardless of how dumb, unmanly or immature they are whilst women shouldn't be allowed to vote regardless of how mature, feminine, clever or culturally/racially aware they are - then this isn't a solution to the problem, it's just shifting the focus without tackling the problem.

    Banning early New Jersey women in 1807 from suffrage again didn't stop some men from dressing up to cast double-votes, it just meant they'd dress up as an off-the-boat migrant instead.

    I agree that 19 year olds shouldn't vote. Esp women who are much easier swayed through their emotions and innate drive to care. (Which is right and good for her family but not outside of it)
    No, not especially women. 19-year-olds shouldn't vote, full stop. There's no especially. If an under-educated 19-year-old guy votes Nationalist for equally simplistic reasons that a classically-educated 19-year-old girl votes Leftist, then this may play into our cards but it's not really a sign of quality voting, either.

    The fact that women are 'much easier swayed through their emotions and innate drive to care' may mean that many of them are politically naive - this doesn't mean they should out-blanket be barred from the decision-making process: it merely means that fact needs to be considered.

    Again, it's something that can be fixed by raising voting ages generally whilst at the same time winning back the meta-cultural end and instituting our fair share of Leitkultur.

    But nevertheless a 19 year old girl can see through the shenaninigans of a stupid ideology. A 19 year old is not void of common sense.
    This takes time. Upbringing is usually fairly stable - up the the point of how good people are with their dental hygiene and after-toilet hygiene. It needs either a "red pill moment", or a slow progression where the reality doesn't stand against what they've been taught.

    This rarely happens within a year of leaving school, least of all if it's considered the "good thing to do" by all of her family, her university and her peers. We've watched two generations of conservatively brought up kids walk out of the universities as liberals, this doesn't work two ways however, because our political opponents have completely marched through the institutions.

    That girl went to the Gymnasium/Highschool and however bad it is today it still gives you some knowledge and the ability to think. A girl of her age is certainly aware of the struggle which is going on.
    Actually, even - and especially - in the Gymnasium, the typical propaganda is wide-spread. One political associate is a high-school teacher and the crap he has to hear during breaktime is like straight out of Marx' Communist Manifesto. The schooling system in German-speaking countries isn't mean to teach people to think independently, it's to prepare them to become "functioning members of the multicult society".

    I recall one instance when my little brother went to primary school and suddenly in 3rd grade ended up with this seriously stunning, 22-year-old teacher in her first year out of her studies.

    She actually told the kids that "Adolf Hitler wanted to kill everyone who wasn't blond and blue even though he himself had brown hair and eyes" - a sentence containing at least two historical errors long before you're apologetic for anything Hitler actually did or planned to do. She didn't tell them this because she wanted to instill this into the kids from an ulterior motive to indoctrinate them - she said this because she genuinely believed this was the case!

    I recall I was so pissed off at both primary kids being taught curriculum stuff well out of their age group AND being told so incorrectly (naturally they all parroted this at home) that I threatened that if she said this again, I'd go and spank some sense into her, but let's not go there, because TBQH this isn't The Lounge.

    And I do expect that 19 year olds do not engage in white genocide. And for the ones who do, I have zero compassion, they are soldiers of the race-whose-name-we-should-not mention. If they get back stabbed by the scum they help, than that is the price for being a traitor.
    It's a price they pay, sure. But again: They don't know better and to me, every woman of my folk who dies at the hand of one of these savages IS a cause for much compassion, even if she mingled with them. The lives of our women must be considered as sacred regardless of the error of their ways, otherwise this is prone to become a slippery slope.

    You argued using the Vikings - would they have avenged a father, brother or child whose ways went astray - of course they would have!
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
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    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

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    I heard about the case and I suppose the only reason it became prominent in the news was her father's status. He used the event to promote a multicultural agenda, what is indeed disturbing. He therefore deserves no sympathy.

    That said, blaming rape victims is typically non-Germanic and a cop out. There is no pretext, no excuse for attacking, molesting and murdering a Germanic girl. Of course it was irresponsible to go out unaccompanied at night, however that doesn't diminish the gravity of the crime here. This incident was not unique, despite being newsworthy. The reality is, more and more Germanic women are getting attacked and feeling unsafe in their own neighborhoods. And it is not Germanic men who threaten and attack them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winkelried View Post
    I heard about the case and I suppose the only reason it became prominent in the news was her father's status. He used the event to promote a multicultural agenda, what is indeed disturbing. He therefore deserves no sympathy.
    The daddy is indeed a despicable figure. I hope he got at least some negative rep in the mail about this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winkelried View Post
    That said, blaming rape victims is typically non-Germanic and a cop out. There is no pretext, no excuse for attacking, molesting and murdering a Germanic girl. Of course it was irresponsible to go out unaccompanied at night, however that doesn't diminish the gravity of the crime here. This incident was not unique, despite being newsworthy. The reality is, more and more Germanic women are getting attacked and feeling unsafe in their own neighborhoods. And it is not Germanic men who threaten and attack them.
    Let me respond to this with the statement that the perpetrator is to be held fully culpable for his deeds. There is zero legitimate reason on his site for raping and murdering the young woman.

    Fact is also that Western countries aren't a save place for our woman to work around anymore.

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    Unfortunately women aren't safe in Europe anymore.
    Never walk alone at night, ideally go accompanied by a male or other family member. Or walk in big groups.
    Rapists target women who are alone, in back alleys but also on normal streets, sometimes even in broad daylight.
    I read somewhere it's possible she knew her victim or him her from the refugee center she was volunteering at. He could have pursued her.

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    This is the rapist scum and your typical "refugee" (young, male, "homeboy" or gangster style, single and sexually aggressive/molesting towards females):







    Does his face look remorsed? I wouldn't say, he looks apathetic and cold. Probably puts a show on and cries a few fake tears to impress and play the refugee card to get a lesser sentence.

    To put it in a nutshell:


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    Afghan “Refugee”-Rapist-Murderer is 25, not 17

    The Afghan invader who pretended to be a 17-year-old “unaccompanied minor” when he sought “asylum” in Germany in 2015—and then went on to rape and murder a high profile pro-invasion female activist—is actually 25 years old, and had been previously arrested and imprisoned in Corfu, Greece, for attempted murder.

    As reported by German media, the ongoing trial of Hussein Khavari in Freiburg has attracted national attention, because it has highlighted all the dangers inflicted upon Germany by the decision of Chancellor Angela Merkel to open that country’s borders to the fake refugee invasion.

    Khavari ambushed 19-year-old medical student Maria Ladenburger in Freiberg in October 2016 before raping her and drowning her in a river. Her father still works as a senior legal adviser to the European Commission in Brussels, and Maria worked in her spare time in Freiburg helping the fake refugees in various shelters and homes around town.

    The Afghan came to Germany in November 2015 without papers and told the race-denying liberals in the “refugee reception center” that he was 17 years old. He was classed as an “unaccompanied minor refugee” and given special status, accommodation, and cash handouts.

    When he was arrested for the rape and murder of the white girl—thanks to forensic evidence—he continued to claim that he was a minor, in the hope of receive a lighter sentence as a “child criminal” as per German law.

    However, the trial court her from dental expert and research scientist Ursula Wittwer-Backofen this week that tests on one of Khavari’s teeth showed with “near certainty” Khavari that his real age was 25.

    Wittwer-Backofen his true age is with 99.7% probability between 22.05 and 29.55 years, but that she was certain he was 25.

    In another indication of the extent of the refugee-hoax which the Merkel regime has perpetrated, the court also heard that Khavari had in fact been living on the Greek island of Corfu—where he had been arrested for attempted murder and sentenced to ten years in prison.

    Somehow Khavari had been released from prison, and in 2015 he just moved to Germany and presented himself as an “unaccompanied minor refugee,”

    His application for asylum had already been accepted by the German authorities when he was arrested.
    http://newobserveronline.com/afghan-...n-court-hears/

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