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    Yes, pretty much integral............

    My Family has been, as far back as I can remember using alcoholic beverages.
    My grandfathers would both drink a bit. One of them would on occasion drink to excess, in his very older years. But the other....Never to Excess.

    My own father appreciated a beer, or a glass of good whiskey, on occasion. I never saw him ever take one drink too many. My family always had all sorts of alcoholic drinks in the house as I grew up. I guess I learned Moderation, in all things. Especially alcohol.

    I am a home-brewer. I like better beers and they are more expensive than local commercial beers. I can brew a good Stout, Porter or Brown Ale at half the price, or less than Imported ones. Plus, I have the enjoyment and pride of serving it to my dear friends on occasion, when they visit.

    I also brew Mead and Braggot, a style of Mead made with the addition of Malt extract as a part of the sugar brewed into it, instead of Honey.
    We only use the Mead for Asatru religious rites, and for certain special family occasions.

    But, no one ever drinks too much, at our House. Alcoholic beverages are a part of our Hospitality. Abusing Alcohol would simply go beyond the limits of Hospitality. Moderation is also a virtue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliite View Post
    Meanwhile, in Europe..

    UK came 6th...!? What!?

    I thought we were like the drunkest people in Europe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliite View Post
    It's worth noting however that the state of Bavaria is actually slightly bigger than the entire Republic of Ireland and has about 3 times as many people, so even if the rest of the country were removed there is a good chance Ireland would still be higher per capita.

    Higher per capita, does not necessairly mean it is a more important cultural tradition there, and certainly mean that their beer is superior quality. Nor does it mean that they're better at drinking it. If there is an übermensch of beer, the Bavarians have it.

    Just because they drink more of it, doesn't mean they're better at drinking it. There is quantity, and then there's quality. I would assume that it is most likely stuff that proper Bavarians and Germans wouldn't consider beer is
    responsible for the higher consumption in Ireland.

    The higher Irish quantity probably includes stuff that isn't really beer, mind you.

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    Let these photos do the talkin'.

    And who has that huge beer drinking celebration in every 10th* month of the year(you know what it is that I'm talking about)? It isn't the Irish or Czechs.


    Quote Originally Posted by BritishLad View Post
    UK came 6th...!? What!?

    I thought we were like the drunkest people in Europe!
    "The drunken English", are just the English, not U.K as a whole.

    I advise you to visit Bavaria someday.


    *It actually begins in September, but hey, you get the idea. I guess it would rather identify itself with a more comfortable month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliite View Post
    Meanwhile, in Europe..

    That statistic only shows the yearly total consumation, it doesn't really say much about their respective drinking cultures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    That statistic only shows the yearly total consumation, it doesn't really say much about their respective drinking cultures.
    Indeed. The Swedish total is around 50 liters, but only 32 liters of that is made up of beer above 3.5%. Makes us seem quite wholesome in comparison with the Czechs and Germans . And according to statistics going back to the 1980s, beer above 3.5% went up from just 10 liters per capita in 1979 to 20 liters in 1991, steadily inching upwards. I wonder if the Czech and German figures have remained steady over the same period. This would make the differences seem even more pronounced and noteworthy. I suppose Swedes used to make up some of the difference with vodka, but have traded it for beer instead in recent decades.

    As far as drinking culture goes, we have lacked the pub and bierstube culture of other countries, beyond a few larger cities where similar outlets existed. But these establishments, apart from the higher class restaurants, mainly served a clientel of alcoholics or downtrodden individuals from what I have been able to gather, or were at least portrayed as such. Drinking has mainly been reserved for the home here whilst in other countries it is associated with public places, pubs.

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    Germanics and Alcohol

    I have always enjoyed drinking alcohol and have also always had a very high tolerance to it - perhaps because of my German-Irish heritage; one negative "side effect" is there was quite a bit of alcoholism in my family.

    My preferred beverages are Texas' own Shiner Bock (as good if not better than any European beers I have ever tasted - and I have tasted alot) and Bushmill's Irish whiskey.

    Now I only drink occasionally and am drinking more red wine than anything else as it is (and has proven to be) much healthier.
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    Gentlemen,

    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/
    Check out Homebrew Talk:

    I used to brew 15 gallons a week, 60 gallons a month, 6 months out of the year, till a 55 Lb sack of D.M.E. went up $40. over night. Mein acht pfund hammerbier at 6 3/4 % alcohol was great. It used to cost 57 cents but now a homebrew costs 98 cents and I can buy a beer for 98 cents. And I won't spend all coon hunting season in the kitchen slaveing over a hot brew pot to save 15 cents on a beer. But I liked brewing, like I enjoy cooking, both fun. And at only 10 beers a day I am not a drunk either. I just like beer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jacktheknife View Post
    Gentlemen,

    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/
    Check out Homebrew Talk:

    I used to brew 15 gallons a week, 60 gallons a month, 6 months out of the year, till a 55 Lb sack of D.M.E. went up $40. over night. Mein acht pfund hammerbier at 6 3/4 % alcohol was great. It used to cost 57 cents but now a homebrew costs 98 cents and I can buy a beer for 98 cents. And I won't spend all coon hunting season in the kitchen slaveing over a hot brew pot to save 15 cents on a beer. But I liked brewing, like I enjoy cooking, both fun. And at only 10 beers a day I am not a drunk either. I just like beer.


    Thank you...


    Jack the Knife
    Your home brew sounds delicious, Jack. We Texans do love our beer don't we?

    I myself have tasted some amazingly good home beers and would like to try it myself someday.

    All I require is time - precious little of that these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Vengeance View Post
    Casual drinking can be fun. But I really HATE the binge-drinking culture so common in Sweden. "Whoooooo! Let's drink until we puke our guts out and crawl home!"
    So disgusting and stupid. I know, it's exciting when you're a teenager...but I grew out of the let's-get-wasted stage at the age of 16. Many adults, who should know better, are still stuck in it.
    I'm inclined to agree with you. It's disgusting how many people can't control their drinking, especially in Nordic cultures such as Sweden and Britain. I have no idea why we have this social problem. Where did we get the whole "grisfest" thing from in the first place?

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    I've tried one can of beer, and that was enough for me. It didn't seem to have much affect on me because of my size, but I didn't like the taste at all. It's just one part of Germanic culinary culture I can't get into at all (bovine beef, rye, oats, wheat, and pork sausage are some of the best foods on earth though). But it's not like Germanics are the only ones that drink. I think the reason Northern European people started drinking so much was because the boggy water was gross where they settled, and flavored drink was safer and tasted better. Back then there weren't refrigerators, so keeping drink over time meant fermentation. Maybe some just wanted to get drunk, but the culture just seems very controlled and temperate otherwise. It's when folks start drinking that they go wild. Maybe it's this controlled release that helps keep Germanics in line.

    Of course these days I think binge drinking and frat parties have really had a negative affect on American culture. People who unwind after a tough day's work at the local bar are one thing. Drunkards and party animals of the type you would see on "Animal House" are something else.

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