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    I don't mind alcohol, but I despise people who get drunk just for the sake of being drunk. Alcohol turns people into rats, it shows a side of people that you don't want to see. Irresponsible, careless and sometimes just downright violent. I hate it when people get drunk... I've seen what it does to people and it saddens me. It really does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    I think limited alcohol use is fine, drinking friday and saturday every weekend is not good.
    Couldn't you've said this a week earlier?

    I did this last weekend (going out and drinking on both friday and saturday) and wasn't sharp on my job this whole week.

    I probably shouldn't do this anymore... getting old
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropkick View Post
    Its always had a place in society but the problem these days binge drinking.

    Binge drinking has been made to look cool by the media and a percentage of people actually believe its great to get wasted. Standards of behaviour have dropped dramatically over the decades and drink tends to bring out the bad behaviour in some people.
    My grandmother was born in 1920 and she told stories about the sort of partying that went on back in the late 1930s out in the countryside where she grew up. This one family would house parties for the boys and girls of the village, there would be a large wooden vat filled with moonshine with a single cup that the boys would fill up and drink from, the girls on the other hand wouldn't touch the stuff. Then the boys would get drunk and start to fight one another. So it would appear that the type of outrageous drinking and partying which goes on today did in fact have a parable at least in the 1930s in rural Sweden .

    After all, the temperance movement didn't appear out of thin air. Strong spirits truly wrecked some havock on Nordic society in the late 19th century and into the 20th century, and all but Denmark introduced monopolies or versions of it.

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    For those who could afford it or make their own, but even then it's unlikely that they would not have been primarily consuming water.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schopenhauer View Post
    It's worth remembering that alcoholic beverages were once the only form of safe liquids available for public consumption.

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    Do you think alcohol drinking is an integral part of our Germanic culture, and should it be treated differently than the use of other drugs?
    Look no further


























































    All one needeth to do is see pictures of Bavaria and pictures of the beer maidens from Oktoberfest and it is self evident that alcohol has a hugely profound role in German and Bavarian culture. We have a brewing tradition that is centuries old. Just ask any Bavarian.


    Most certainly is alcohol is a hugely integral role in European culture, specificaly German culture, and to an even greater extent Bavarian culture. It is more than a foodstuff, and even beyond a social lubricant, it's our culture and history. Nearly all European cultures have some form of alcohol that is synominous with their culture and history.

    Perhaps the most successful and widely reckognized German celebration outside of Germany, is the Oktoberfest. To say Oktoberfest is 100% about beer and nothing else would be narrow minded (don't get me wrong, those big clock towers and castles are important and the folkish dancing is also), but beer IS undoubtedly a central theme and it certainly just wouldn't be Oktoberfest with out good German beer. The reason being is that beer and the brewing tradition has had such a strong influence on Bavarian culture.

    Oktoberfest without beer is like a car being run without oil in its engine. My family gatherings are the same way, quite honestly.


    In answer to the second part of the question "should it be treated differently than the use of other drugs", that is an easy answer. Yes, unlike alcohol, other drugs often are used for the sole purpose of getting high, whereas alcohol is harmless and has health benefits if done responsibly and also uniquely European in the sense that other cultures don't seem to focus on alcohol as much as we do. Alcohol lubricated culture, is clearly and distinctively a European tradition.

    What do you think about drinking culture among Germanic men and women?
    It is all in the name of harmless celebreation of our culture, our tradition, and our rich heritage, that our ancestors and their ancestors before them reckognized as a sociocultural lubricant and tratition that moved our ancestors and brightened the days and spirits of our ancestors in the worst and most troublesome times. And this Germanic drinking culture can be traced back to the Old Norse, some of our earliest ancestors which held this tradition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schopenhauer View Post
    Wait, Irishmen drink?!?


    Of course they don't drink, most Germans and all Bavarians know that.

    Irishmen THINK they know how to drink but they do not. Maybe other parts of the world think the Irish drink well, but to the German, and to a greater extent, the Bavarian, Irish drinking is out in left field.

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    In Australia, drinking is considered the only activity worth anything. I like the European approach of drinking in moderation rather than getting drunk beyond comprehension every weekend.

    I think to be able to enjoy a couple of drinks is a sign of self control and maturity. And in that respect alcohol is a German trait and of course beer and other drinks are culturally very Germanic.
    I grew up on a belief of honour, courage and the old world values. The world isn't about that anymore, preferring to die a slow death of fast food and cheap thrills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallflower View Post
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    There's beer in those pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrid Runa View Post
    I don't mind alcohol, but I despise people who get drunk just for the sake of being drunk. Alcohol turns people into rats, it shows a side of people that you don't want to see. Irresponsible, careless and sometimes just downright violent. I hate it when people get drunk... I've seen what it does to people and it saddens me. It really does.
    In vino veritas..., actually many people just hide this real face under mask, while sober.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kungen av Norden View Post
    Do you think alcohol drinking is an integral part of our Germanic culture, and should it be treated differently than the use of other drugs??
    Yes, see symbel.

    Obviously, alcohol has been an element of many ancient cultures, including ours, for better or worse. I imagine many people here (like myself) drink casually on some occasions. Then there's others who never drink at all, prefering to be healthy at all times. What do you think about drinking culture among Germanic men and women??
    It's gotten out of hand as no-one learns self-control anymore. You used to go to pubs where there was a broad cross-section of men (women rarely drank on their own) of different ages. Whilst the younger ones would get drunk fast, the presence of the older and wiser men tended to discourage such activity. Nowadays 18 year olds (obviously doesn't apply where drinking laws are uncivilised ) gather in huge bars where no-one's over 21 and they compete to get wasted. No-one condemns their actions (other than sensationalist news articles), the police and their parents turn a blind eye.

    Last, but not least, what kinds of alcoholic drinks do you favor yourselves?
    Beer, mead, whiskey, gin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackened_Might View Post
    Norwegians, Russians, Germans, Irishmen, Britons, Scots, Italians, Spaniards, Swedes..
    There's a thread over on the England forum about the difference between Briton and Englishman (ignore pages 2-5 about whose DNA survey is best ). Apparently there's some confusion among foreigners (actually there's a lot of confusion amongst the British too ) regarding the term Briton/British. In this case I believe you mean English, as the Irish and Scots are Britons too (although all three of us have been known to deny this fact vehemently ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallflower View Post
    Of course they don't drink, most Germans and all Bavarians know that.

    Irishmen THINK they know how to drink but they do not. Maybe other parts of the world think the Irish drink well, but to the German, and to a greater extent, the Bavarian, Irish drinking is out in left field.
    Meanwhile, in Europe..


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