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    Arrow Zarathustra's Indo-European Legacy

    This is interesting, in the light of the events of last week or so, when protesters were arrested for celebrating the anniversary of Cyrus the Great (rediscovered by the German Jew Ernst Herzfeld).

    Zarathustra's Indo-European Legacy



    Cyrus the Great is probably one of the most well-known historical figures to Iranians: an ancient king who has been praised for his wise and fair rule (559-530 B.C.). His achievements — as shown in the ancient Cyrus Cylinder, which Iranians refer to as the first human rights charter — are a great source of pride for the people of Iran.

    Yet the flocking of ordinary Iranians in an unprecedented manner to the Tomb of Cyrus in Pasargadae on Oct. 28, to mark what has become known as the international day of Cyrus the Great, prompted a backlash by some Iranian clerics.

    On Oct. 30, Ayatollah Hossein Nouri Hamedani criticized the gathering that took place around the tomb of the founder of the Achaemenid Empire, saying, “People rose up and brought about the [1979 Islamic] Revolution and allowed the emergence of a true Islamic system. The Shah used to say, ‘O Cyrus, sleep in peace as we are awake.’ Now, a group of people have gathered around the Tomb of Cyrus and they are circumambulating it and have taken their handkerchiefs out and cry [as they do for Shiite Imam Hussein]. … They are counter-revolutionaries. I am amazed that these people get together around the Tomb of Cyrus, shouting the same slogans for him that we shout in support of the supreme leader, and yet we are sitting here, alive and well, and just watching this.”

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    Discovering Cyrus the Great's Secrets in Modern Iran

    Herzfeld was definitely not the first to discover or make note of the site, but was the first to confirm that the site was actually an imperial Persian capital and the location of the tomb of Cyrus, the existence of which was posited by the Roman historian Arrian, but was lost to Persian histories. The famous Persian epic, the Shahnameh does not seem to have a historical memory of Cyrus (though there are many of his inscriptions in Iran), but seems to conflate his deeds with those of legendary characters.

    It is astounding that until recently, the Persians, like the modern Egyptians, and many others, forgot so much of their ancient history that it took a European to identify and discover famous archaeological sites in those regions. Indeed, most of the major discoveries of ancient civilizations throughout Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey were made by Western archaeologists. Granted that it was in the West that modern, systematic, scientific archaeology developed, there is still a strong case to be made for the people of the Middle East to cherish, advertise, protect, and research their ancient heritage better. However, knowledge of Pasargadae may have been lost due to the uncontrollable vagaries of history rather than any deliberate cause.

    While Arrian had claimed the tomb contained the inscription, “Passer-by, I am Cyrus, who gave the Persians an empire, and was king of Asia/Grudge me not therefore this monument,” no such words were found. Instead, the words “I am Cyrus, the king, an Achaemenid,” were found carved into a nearby column in three languages: Old Persian, Elamite, and Akkadian. The tomb was then ransacked during the conquests of Alexander the Great, who was furious at this act of sacrilege, as he admired Cyrus. Indeed, Cyrus was one of the most admired individuals of ancient times because he allowed all people to conduct their own affairs with autonomy and ruled his empire benevolently with a generous hand. Babylonian documents, Greek sources, and the Old Testament all praise him.

    Knowledge of the tomb was forgotten during the Parthian Empire, which originated in today’s Turkmenistan, that followed soon after Greek rule. During the Islamic conquests of Iran, the Arabs came to believe that it was the tomb of Solomon’s mother and in the 13th century, a mosque (which is mostly gone now) was built around it. Travelers speculated on its purpose, but nothing was proven conclusively until the 20th century. However, once discovered, it was quickly appropriated and promoted by the late Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who sought to glorify pre-Islamic Iran. He personally went to the tomb on October 12, 1971, to pay his respects during the 2,500 year celebration of the Persian Empire.

    Other than information on the tomb and the archaeology surrounding it, the exhibit contains some interesting bits of information on the ruined city. In particular, Pasargadae contained some features that represented a break from existing architectural traditions in the Middle East, especially Mesopotamia, while also incorporating and combining elements from Babylon, Greece, and Egypt. While older palaces in the Middle East were more linear, Pasargadae contains the first example of a design that later became prominent throughout Persia and places influenced by Persia in India and Central Asia: the palace centered around gardens. The gardens would have probably contained almond, pomegranate, and cherry trees, like later Persian gardens. According to David Hogge, head of the Freer and Sackler Archives: “There was a complex system of irrigation canals which Herzfeld discovered. It really was very novel when it was built.”

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    Kshayatiya Kshayatiyanam

    That is ineresting that these Antique Persian would be not Muslim or Heathen, however they had an own Religious system, the Zoroastrianism. After the Muslim conquer the Iran, the remains of these Zoroastrianists have gone to India and now they are living more than one thausend years of the Muslim conquer. They are the "Farsi"s what world is relative the english Persian world or the name of the old Persian capitol Pasargadai what means Persian, "Pasar" camp. Yes, it was originally a camp as the ancestors of the old Persians were horse-nomadic people from the Ukrainian Steppe and they spoke Indo-European langauge what were close to the ancestors of the Baltic and Slavic language.

    Dareios the III, the last Achaimenide King of King, the last Kshayatiya Kshayatiyanam


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    Sadly today critics of the Mullahs cite outward Zoroastrian history and culture whilst pushing anti-Mazdean concepts such as pro-homosexuality, abortion rights and such.

    Evola warned of this and we see it with pseudo-pagans.

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