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    Survival Rifles

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    I have always been a big fan of single shots, a simple break open shotgun or double rifle/shotgun combos. If it is just a shotgun you can use slugs for up to 100 meters.

    The Ultimate Russian Survival Rifle


    Even better in IMHO are German Drillings. Too bad they are not so popular here anymore. I have had several of these over the years and they are very versatile.

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    I can see the "Zombie" hoards shit themselves with that pointing at them...

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    The most ultimate weapon

    The most ultimate weapon is the Ak-47 and his descents. You can get ammo for this in every part of the world and this stuff is undestroyable.

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    It's a simple design that get's the job done... However I like the fixed stock ones only. The underfold is crap. The sidefold on recent models looks better and more stable than the underfold, but I haven't tried it.
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    Great thread

    It is many good survival rifles.

    Depending on what kind of survival and where you are located the "best" survival rifle/shotgun could be a variety of different calibers and models.

    AK47 is most reliable no doubt about that. Ammo is not available all over the place, here in Norway it is not werry common. The AK will kill anything, but will struggle with the ac and is not a good choise for those who live by the sea, and in mud/sand locations becouse of it entering directly into the gas port holes. The mags is quite long and limits lower positions..

    Shotgun is probably the most reliable choise and will kill anything. The rate of fire tough is not good, and the ac is even worce. The rounds take alot of space and is heavy. The range and ac is not friends. For semi auto shotguns the rate of fire is better but the reliabillity is not for most of them. Semi auto i recommend the star baikal mp. I used this in Northwestern territories Canada whitout a single hick up despite mud etc.

    Ruger 22lr semi auto is pretty reliable, the rounds is cheap and you can carry alot of them. It is possible to kill larger animals but not recommended. The 22lr is also a werry good sniper caliber (difficoult to spot 22lr snipers) in city locations (Used in Sarajevo etc), but then i recommend a bolt version like the cz 452 etc.

    Standard bolt rifles as the Howa 1500`s is reliable becouse of the "slack" in the bolt system. Smoother rifles tend to be less reliable becouse of the tight bolt mechanics. It will kill anything also in long range. Rate of fire is crappy off curse. Ammo is expensive.

    AG3 and other western competitors to AK47. Most of them have pretty good ac. The AG3 is werry reliable and tend to have great ac and range (You could even find sniper ammo and sniper versions for this rifle)

    If i had too take one of all i would probably go for the 22lr ruger. Small, short, good rate of fire (u could make it auto with a dremel tool if you want..), easy to carry around and easy to maintain. Reliabillity depends strongly on the mags.. Cheap plastic mags is not recommended.

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    Personally I'm no fan of the AK-47. The 7.62 x 39 round that it fires is not accurate beyond 200 meters and that is if you are very steady. Sure you can hit a target further, but the weapon itself was designed to be cheap and mass produced. Some of the Eastern European models are a little better built, but still not a very durable weapon in terms of a survival weapon.

    Simple is better when it comes to survival type weapons. A break open design is fool proof. Then you can in a pinch even turn it into a muzzle loader if you run out of ammo.

    True shotguns are a close range weapon, but really how far do you need to be. I kill on average 15 deer a year. Most of these deer are less than 30 meters and I use a shotgun with slugs or a muzzle loader. The big heavy slugs crash through brush and don't deflect. I have killed boar shooting through very heavy brush and downed them with one shot. Then you can always use bird shot for birds and small game and it is real hard to miss using bird shot.

    So yes, I am a fan of the shotgun for both urban areas or dense woodlands where I live. Yes, they are brutal and messy but highly effective. If there was a contest on how much game people can kill to feed themselves a shotgun would out perform any rifle. We are talking about survival here, not going out playing Rambo.
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    The idea behind a Carbine Conversion is very alluring with an initial investment into a handgun and then turning it into something slightly more offensive seems like a logical step especially when the stopping power of 10mm and .45 ACP is considered however that said 9mmP is the most common and that should make the choice logical, this conversion can fill the close range role of an assault-rifle nicely, lets say up to 70 meters with that barrel you should not miss all to often. I am talking defense around the house in urban areas with a 33 bullet magazine this should be lethal because of the low recoil of especially 9mmP, I wonder if a Glock 18 could be made to operate full auto in this?

    Anyway it seems like a major task getting it into SA with two parts that needs licensing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Personally I'm no fan of the AK-47. The 7.62 x 39 round that it fires is not accurate beyond 200 meters and that is if you are very steady. Sure you can hit a target further, but the weapon itself was designed to be cheap and mass produced. Some of the Eastern European models are a little better built, but still not a very durable weapon in terms of a survival weapon.

    Simple is better when it comes to survival type weapons. A break open design is fool proof. Then you can in a pinch even turn it into a muzzle loader if you run out of ammo.

    True shotguns are a close range weapon, but really how far do you need to be. I kill on average 15 deer a year. Most of these deer are less than 30 meters and I use a shotgun with slugs or a muzzle loader. The big heavy slugs crash through brush and don't deflect. I have killed boar shooting through very heavy brush and downed them with one shot. Then you can always use bird shot for birds and small game and it is real hard to miss using bird shot.

    So yes, I am a fan of the shotgun for both urban areas or dense woodlands where I live. Yes, they are brutal and messy but highly effective. If there was a contest on how much game people can kill to feed themselves a shotgun would out perform any rifle. We are talking about survival here, not going out playing Rambo.
    Playing Rambo is a really bad survival strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutuPA7DCGs
    I agree with you on the hunting part and a shotgun will do the job in most situations. In real life i use a shotgun 70% of the time (10-40m), a 22lr 20% of the time (Ducks and hare hunting up to 100m) and a bolt rifle 10% of the time (long range hunting up to 400m). The situation and type of survival plays a role in wich type of survival rifle you need. Survival out in the bush or survival in the city is werry different in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drottin View Post
    Playing Rambo is a really bad survival strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutuPA7DCGs
    Wow! This video really demonstrates either no training or very bad training on many different levels. Which brings up a good point no matter what weapon you choose make sure you know how to use it.
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