View Poll Results: How Imminent is Civil War in America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    I suspect his true mission is to eventually attack Iran, what his three predecessors all failed to do.
    He's not isolationist. How could he be, a man with so many of them as his blood siblings?
    genau

    Though I did not think they were his blood siblings, I thought it was his children that married them?

    But, still this has very little to do with the topic of the thread. Sure all things are tired together, but the questions is whether or not these antifa in the US can be arrested and tried for treason and hopefully defund them as well by going after the donators of this violence.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Though I did not think they were his blood siblings, I thought it was his children that married them?
    When you let your own flesh and blood to them, then you mix your blood with them, no? Of course the old men, he himself will be pure, fleshly, till the end. It's a pity he can't change it. But his grandchildren, they... ...will no longer be his, they will be 'children of God'.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    But, still this has very little to do with the topic of the thread. Sure all things are tired together, but the questions is whether or not these antifa in the US can be arrested and tried for treason and hopefully defund them as well by going after the donators of this violence.
    They can not. Who can touch them? They are untouchable.

    Also I think, in such a great country as America, with such a great diversity of life forms, including anime-aficionados, a certain amount of domestic unrest must be tolerated, and even considered as normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    They can not. Who can touch them? They are untouchable.
    Well they are very touchable. The US has something called rule of law. It is just until very recently that these violent protest were allowed under the obama administration.

    Also I think, in such a great country as America, with such a great diversity of life forms, including anime-aficionados, a certain amount of domestic unrest must be tolarated, and even considered as normal.
    Really, The US because of its rule of law has not seen near as many violent protest as most European countries including Germany. Antifa was not a big deal here until this last election and in the past violent protestors were jailed and sometimes given harsh sentences. True, US citizens are allowed to "peaceably" assemble and protest the government, but these people are not being peaceful and are being funded to not be peaceful. Since both the protestor and those that are funding them are being violent they both are guilty.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    I would like to know why Trump even candidated? What did he want? Did he just want 'make-America-great-again', is it that simple?
    Rich powerful people often want the same thing. To become richer and more powerful.
    It's a fun and addictive, the more you win and gain the more you want. Amateurs stay home and play board games. Politicians play with more interesting stakes.

    And if it is that simple, why then, such a man as Trump did not come up earlier? Why such a man did not run for president, say, 16 years ago? Before the 3 towers collapsed?
    The political system and game in most if not all countries is rigged. In some more than in others. In most cases it requires extensive funding, resources and connections to get into a position from which one can perhaps be selected.

    There have been candidates in the US in the past who had at least some characteristics in common with Trump (Ross Perot, Ralph Nader) but they didn't succeed in beating the Republican / Democrat stranglehold on the political process.

    Trump scraped in, part of the reason probably being because he cleverly made himself into a famous household name long before he entered politics. He also had sufficient financial resources to not be beholden to political sponsors (who own all the other candidates.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    I would like to know why Trump even candidated? What did he want? Did he just want 'make-America-great-again', is it that simple? And if it is that simple, why then, such a man as Trump did not come up earlier? Why such a man did not run for president, say, 16 years ago? Before the 3 towers collapsed?

    The government is so full of outright evil people, you can be forgiven for assuming Trump is the same way... taking a "what's in it for me" attitude. Well, Trump is not perfect by any means, but what sort of guy would do this?:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-suicide.html

    Publicity? An investment in good will? Maybe. It was still a pretty decent thing to do. Someone like that can't be all bad.

    If Trump ran for selfish reasons, I think it was not for money or power, really. The way he's been keeping promises in his first month in office tells me something else. I think the guy wants to be the legendary savior who bought this country back. Unfortunately, he's naive about the fact that when America was great before, it was defined by its European heritage and culture.
    But finally, we have a leader who leads in good faith. It's about time.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    Publicity? An investment in good will? Maybe. It was still a pretty decent thing to do. Someone like that can't be all bad.
    One must distinguish between minor, irrelevant, unimportant things, and major, relevant, important things. I know that nowadays, people are not able to do this, they even do not see the difference. For most people, something is just something, and all is the same anyway.

    But, to make my point clear, I will get across to some examples.

    Some relevant, important things would be, for example:
    - recognize the state of Palestine.
    - dismantle the so-called 'Federal Reserve', and pull in all paper notes issued by it (those with the poison-green seal)
    - establish a United States National Bank, and issue United States bank notes, with a red seal.
    - withdraw all US american armed forces from Germany, Japan, and South Korea.
    - conclude a peace treaty with Germany (after a German national government has been freely elected).
    - conclude a peace treaty with North Korea.
    - deport each and every person who does hang out illegally on US territory.

    So, these are just some few examples. If he would only carry out and accomplish just one of these, it would be so great, and I could take him seriously.
    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    If Trump ran for selfish reasons, I think it was not for money or power, really.
    Well, I must reiterate -- and this is of course an 'assumption' of mine, yet one that is in compliance with Ockham's Razor -- that I think he candidated in order to carry out finally certain things that his 3 predecessors, for various reasons, failed to do. Trump is a mere continuation of Clinton-Bush-Obama with other means.
    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    The way he's been keeping promises in his first month in office tells me something else.
    This man Trump is as 'isolationist' as Frankly Deficit Roosevelt was. Frankly Deficit Roosevelt promised in the election campaign 1940" "Your boys will not be sent into foreign wars!" One year later, he sent a secret ultimatum to the Japanese Emperor that was a declaration of war.

    I think Trump will try out something similar, probably against China, which has accumulated 3 trillion US$ debts and unpaid bills from the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    I would like to know why Trump even candidated? What did he want? Did he just want 'make-America-great-again', is it that simple? And if it is that simple, why then, such a man as Trump did not come up earlier? Why such a man did not run for president, say, 16 years ago? Before the 3 towers collapsed?
    America has changed a great deal since 2001. The idea that Trump, or someone like him, could successfully run for POTUS was thinkable just four years ago. A Manhattanite billionaire, on his third wife, a daughter born out-of-wedlock (though he later married her mother), the current wife posed nude years ago, not to mention those Access Hollywood tapes would emerge as the candidate of the White working class and the socially conservative right? If not for the likes of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama a Trump presidency would never have happened.

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    GOP baseball shooting: Lawmaker Steve Scalise wounded, one person in custody

    Another sign we are getting closer to outright war. The Left and the Elites, along with the media, have created a climate of violence against anyone who might be remotely against their agenda.

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    Clashes between left and right constantly at every protest. Left arming up. Left assassination attempt yesterday on GOP. Hopefully Civil war is close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorolf View Post
    Clashes between left and right constantly at every protest. Left arming up. Left assassination attempt yesterday on GOP. Hopefully Civil war is close.
    I understand your sentiment. While I agree for being prepared for war is necessary, I never hope for one. Wars and combat leave scars that never heal, sure you can claim to be brave and a warrior or whatever the scars and mental damage never leave you. You and your comrades may make it out alive and you may even win, but what life is it? You are left to watch your comrades commit suicide, have failed marriages, shutter and cloud their lives with drugs and alcohol, the lonely feeling that never leaves and keeps you awake at night. If there is to be war it better be worth it.
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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