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  • By January 01, 2017.

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  • By June 30, 2017.

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  • There will be no Civil War, just business as usual.

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    People fight more for their immediate interests than for abstract rights. Not long ago a militia took up arms in objection to the government removing statues and it came to nothing going because White Americans are too well fed. To go anywhere such a really old requires an alliance with another racial group, it will also need the backing of White prison gangs.

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    Straightforward From Here To The Left’s Fascist, Maybe Violent, Endgame


    By Kurt Schlichter.

    The Democrat Party, its Media serfs, and Social Justice Incorporated are all outraged because we uppity normals are again presuming to rule ourselves, and their agony is delightful. Less delightful is how, in the process of trying to claw their way back into power, they are incinerating the norms and rules that preserve our political order. That stuff Hillary babbled about honoring the legitimacy of elections? Yeah, no. There’s an invisible asterisk only liberals can see that explains that the norms and rules are void when liberals lose.

    So, where does this crisis end?

    We know where the leftists want it to end, with us silenced and subservient forever, toiling to pay taxes for them to redistribute to their clients as they pick at, poke at and torment us. You look at the things Trump stands for and all of them are about lifting the yoke off of us – cutting taxes, slashing regulations, guaranteeing the Second Amendment, protecting our religious liberty, and safeguarding us from terrorists and illegals. But everything liberals want, everything Hillary ran on, is about clamping the yoke ever tighter around our necks – raising taxes, issuing more regulations, disarming us, limiting our religious freedom, and putting us at risk from terrorists and alien criminals. The whole leftist platform is about putting us down and keeping us down.

    Think what they will do if they take power again.

    They are certainly not going to risk us ever being able to repeat November’s rejection. California’s decline lays out their tyrannical road map. When the Democrats took power here, they “reformed” the election laws to lock-in their party, co-opted the “nonpartisan” redistricting process, and changed the ballot initiative system to make sure we will never see another unapproved proposition. They ensured there is no way to stop illegal aliens from voting because they want illegal aliens voting.

    But even that’s not enough. The state government chose to allow its unofficial catspaws to intimidate and beat dissenters at UC Berkeley. California’s governing class wanted the thugs to prevail; it was a lesson to its opponents. I thought my novel People’s Republic, about post-freedom California, was an action thriller, not the first draft of a future history.

    I was wrong.

    Do you think Hillary Clinton or whatever aspiring Hugo Chavez they offer up next is going to protect us from violent leftist thugs, or encourage them? Remember how Obama weaponized agencies like the IRS against conservatives? Multiply that by a thousand. Think about the “hate speech” rules used to silence conservatives on campus; imagine them as federal law. That’s coming, just like in Europe – it’s now a crime in France to speak out against abortion. Do you imagine leftists don’t dream of doing that? No, once back in power they will ensure we will never be able to challenge their rule. One man (or woman or other), one vote, one more time, then never again.
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    I've been predicting a civil war or revolution by 2020 for years and I creeated a thread on the subject back in October. The general consensus here was that we wouldn't have civil war in 2017, only one other Skadite agreed with me that we would. But now it is obvious that we are heading towards a major confrontation. We have the establishment, including the mainstream media and the intelligence community vs the Trump White House. I think the military will back Bush. Something is going to happen by June. I'm praying that Team Trump wins even if Trump himself doesn't make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    The general consensus here was that we wouldn't have civil war in 2017, only one other Skadite agreed with me that we would. But now it is obvious that we are heading towards a major confrontation.
    I still don't think a true civil war will happen. These leftist are trying other means to gain power. I think they have been acting like the little spoiled brats they are. They did not win and now they are having a temper tantrum just like toddlers.

    Besides, do they really want a civil war against the majority of gun owners in the US?

    My big question is that are they acting within their limits of their first amendment rights given that they are very organized and funded with the intent on overthrowing a legal government?

    Quote Originally Posted by US CONSTITUTION 1. Amendment
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    The key word here is "peaceably". These riots are not peaceful petitions of Government for redress of grievances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    We have the establishment, including the mainstream media and the intelligence community vs the Trump White House. I think the military will back Bush. Something is going to happen by June. I'm praying that Team Trump wins even if Trump himself doesn't make it.
    The problem as I see it (Wayne Madsen wrote an insightful article recently on the three tier Trump Administration) is that Trump's somewhat of an anomaly in Team Trump.

    If one accepts Madsen's analyses, Trump Team are composed of (at least) three distinct power factions. So if Trump's removed from the equation, one would essentially be left with mainstream Republican Cucks, the Deep State and the usual Israel First NeoCons & Liberals.

    (Keep in mind that the Republican Leadership fought tooth and nail to keep Trump OUT, most likely because their Cuck / Deep State / Israel First upper echelons considered him to be incompatible with their programs and policies.)

    Trump's Administration is filled by these same Cucks, NeoCons/Liberals and the Deep State. Not only does he have to contend with the hysterical and out-of-control / beyond all reason and rationality HARD LEFT, he also has all these inner circle snakes circling him.

    Western countries including the US are basically shifting to the point that it is becoming untenable to maintain a co-existence between humans (ie normal people) and these hysterical and fanatical leftists. Something's got to give. The greatist irony is watching recent Youtube videos where (working) black people in the US argue against these insane Sorosites, telling them to "get a job", to "stop harassing them on their way to work" (for example when these protests disrupt public transport) etc.

    The choice we're increasingly left with is to either accept being intimidated, harassed, leeched off, oppressed and controlled by these ever-more-insane people or to part ways with them so that they can live in their areas and pay for their own life choices and policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    Trump's somewhat of an anomaly in Team Trump. [...] Trump Team are composed of (at least) three distinct power factions. So if Trump's removed from the equation, one would essentially be left with mainstream Republican Cucks, the Deep State and the usual Israel First NeoCons & Liberals.

    (Keep in mind that the Republican Leadership fought tooth and nail to keep Trump OUT, most likely because their Cuck / Deep State / Israel First upper echelons considered him to be incompatible with their programs and policies.)

    Trump's Administration is filled by these same Cucks, NeoCons/Liberals and the Deep State. Not only does he have to contend with the hysterical and out-of-control / beyond all reason and rationality HARD LEFT, he also has all these inner circle snakes circling him.
    I would like to know why Trump even candidated? What did he want? Did he just want 'make-America-great-again', is it that simple? And if it is that simple, why then, such a man as Trump did not come up earlier? Why such a man did not run for president, say, 16 years ago? Before the 3 towers collapsed?
    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    or to part ways with them so that they can live in their areas and pay for their own life choices and policies.
    What do you have in mind? Reservations? And what means pay for?

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    Making America great again will be the cover to push through biometric and surveillance bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catterick View Post
    Making America great again will be the cover to push through biometric and surveillance bullshit.
    To introduce these, more domestic tebbolism is needed as plausible pretext. But if you keep the turbanoids out, domestic tebbolism will drop.

    I suspect his true mission is to eventually attack Iran, what his three predecessors all failed to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spjabork View Post
    To introduce these, more domestic tebbolism is needed as plausible pretext. But if you keep the turbanoids out, domestic tebbolism will drop.

    I suspect his true mission is to eventually attack Iran, what his three predecessors all failed to do.
    Trumps failure to cease US attacks on friendly, progressive Iran is suspicious indeed. Surely any isolationist would tone it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catterick View Post
    Surely any isolationist would tone it down.
    He's not isolationist. How could he be, a man with so many of them as his blood siblings?

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