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Thread: When We Are Democratic Minorities in Our Own Countries, What Then?

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    When We Are Democratic Minorities in Our Own Countries, What Then?

    Non-whites will be majority in US and Europe by 2050 [link].

    Sooner or later, we will be an ethnic minority in our countries, and immigrants will be in a position to decide our destiny in elections. What shall we do when democracy no longer serves the national interest?

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    What will happen will largely depend on the specific nature of the immigrant majority government. Every country is different.

    If it is a culturally western ethnicity that supports the same values of personal freedom and democracy as the native white population, then probably nothing much will happen. Things will continue much as they did before.

    Discrimination based on race in white countries is largely a myth. Once you control for factors like endemic drug addiction, criminality and a culture of anti-intellectualism among minorities, so called racism virtually disappears. Hopefully when whites are the minority that will continue to be the case.

    However, if the majority immigrant government is discriminatory against the white minority or holds differing values then that is where the problems could start.

    In the case of the U.S the immigrants are mostly Mexicans. Mexicans generally hold christian values and believe in democracy and rule of law. So I don't think there will be a problem there from a cultural point of view.

    However Mexicans are quite nationalistic and could possibility seek to secede from the rest of the U.S if they became a majority in the southern states. That would be a problem and could possibly lead to some kind of civil war.

    In the case of western europe the main immigrant group is Muslim. A majority of British Muslims (around 55%) want Sharia law in the UK. If they became a forceful political group then I don't see how serious inter-ethnic conflict could avoided. In nearly every country where there is a large Muslim presence, say 30%+ of the population, it nearly always leads to war.

    Of all the wars going an at the moment Islamists are involved in the majority of them. Everyone knows about ISIS, who are active in Syria, Iraq and Libya, but Boko Haram alone are at war in 4 countries in Africa right now an you rarely hear about them.
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    When that happens Germanics or other former ethnic majorites can no longer be blamed the same way.

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    Majority-minority areas like Lewisham and Leicester all voted to remain in the EU. Immigrants of all creeds voted against the national interest in the EU Referendum. The question has to be asked, should economic migrants, people purely here for economic reasons, be asked to vote on matters concerning our national destiny?

    Immigrant MPs very upset that Britain gained independence from the EU.
    Keith Vaz Brexit Meltdown


    David Lammy p***d off at EU referendum Brexit result

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catterick View Post
    When that happens Germanics or other former ethnic majorites can no longer be blamed the same way.
    Not True. Look at what is happening in America right now. Negroes are rioting and blaming the white Europeans for the riots. We according to the leftist are supposed to be in "post-racist" America with the "election" of the first negroe-American as president. Yet racial tension is higher than it has ever been. Some black leaders are calling for a open race war against whites.....I don't think they are thinking things through as right now that would be a huge mistake on their part.

    Yes, to sound very racist in my opinion I am going to offer this:

    Negroes and hispanics want what we have, they never view how we got what we have, instead they think there is some magical thing called "white privilege" that we get where we are or what we have just by being white. They don't believe that most whites in America actually work hard and earn what they acquire by being good members of a productive society. My understanding is that most negroes and hispanics do not have the mental comprehension skills to realize that if they work hard and not commit crimes that you can achieve the most basic parts of our society( house, car, schools, vacations, and so on).
    Life is like a fire hydrant- sometimes you help people put out their fires, but most of the time you just get peed on by every dog in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Not True. Look at what is happening in America right now. Negroes are rioting and blaming the white Europeans for the riots. We according to the leftist are supposed to be in "post-racist" America with the "election" of the first negroe-American as president. Yet racial tension is higher than it has ever been. Some black leaders are calling for a open race war against whites.....I don't think they are thinking things through as right now that would be a huge mistake on their part.
    Whites are not yet a minority and I wasn't thinking of post-racism.

    Yes, to sound very racist in my opinion I am going to offer this:

    Negroes and hispanics want what we have, they never view how we got what we have, instead they think there is some magical thing called "white privilege" that we get where we are or what we have just by being white.
    Most Blacks and Mestizos do not believe in "white privilege": such concepts are taught in higher education. Even in college most minority students are fine with White Pride and European Heritage Day till (((people from outside))) waltz in and stir them up.

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    ...then we take our countries back by force, in fact we should have long done that before it ever reaches the point we become a minority in our own land. The idea that someone should wait till it's quite literally "too late" is so closely tied to the zombified zeitgeist we're enjoying. Democracy has already ceased to serve national interest.

    Let's be honest: We're in a situation where we'll be minorities virtually anywhere within a generation's time unless we take our countries back in the next 10-15 years tops anyway, thanks to our 'democratically elected' politicians. The US even has the absurd situation that the areas with the least number of racial others (especially New England) are also the areas who vote most liberally.

    Anyone believing that there is a democratic remedy alone to take our countries back, should wake up very quickly, that option has long passed. The most that existing democratic political parties such as the FPÖ or the AfD can do for us is to halt the rot enough to buy us an extra five or ten years to get our act together.

    This coming Machtergreifung will have to be by revolution + with the silent backing of those who already had the guts to vote for such parties, but it most likely won't be peaceful. So the question of whether we become democratic minorities is, if anything, a question of our very existence - not so much one of gaining power (because that won't happen democratically anymore, anyway).

    So, the idea is: Take our countries back, by whichever means, before we become a minority, and don't wager on the democratic route (where we're not exactly involved in the decision making already).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Negroes and hispanics want what we have, they never view how we got what we have, instead they think there is some magical thing called "white privilege" that we get where we are or what we have just by being white. They don't believe that most whites in America actually work hard and earn what they acquire by being good members of a productive society. My understanding is that most negroes and hispanics do not have the mental comprehension skills to realize that if they work hard and not commit crimes that you can achieve the most basic parts of our society( house, car, schools, vacations, and so on).
    Like Othmar Spann wrote, any democratic revolt is about wanting to have what those 'above you' have aquired. It's jealousy. So as long as whites thrive better than others, which generally seems to be the case within the structure of our current societies, these others will be jealous and claim their 'rights'. That this isn't a matter of minority-majority is shown by the example of South-Africa, the 'rainbow-nation' that has the most race-laws of the world to make up for a given social inequality between the white minority and the black majority (the armblankes (poor whites) are easily forgotten).

    Democracy, if even accepted as a good system, can only be a means to govern. What's even worse than the notion of democracy itself, is the modern liberal conception of it which has abandoned this principle. Taking the abstract individual as its point of reference (in stead of a demos as a whole), liberal democracy has turned democracy into a goal in itself. At the point when liberal democracy will lead to its own downfall, making way for non-liberal cultures, it will still continue its course even though it obviously ceased to be a suitable means to govern.
    To answer the question, it follows that we should abandon liberal democracy when it doesn't help us to govern ourselves anymore (i.e. when it will destroy us). We should have done this much earlier of course, because the outcome is inevitable. Given the scenario that has been posed by the OP, a non-liberal democracy would still be an option, theoretically speaking. Whether this would be a good idea is a different discussion regardless whether we will become a minority or not, a discussion about the principles of government.

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