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    Yes, slavic place derived surnames were common in the bordering regions of the empire and eastern exclaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Because I live in the area - my surname isn't Slavic btw, but I know people with Slavic surnames, and the history of people with such surnames is more complex than you paint it. Judging someone's ancestry by surname is ignorant if not even stupid because surnames can be adopted without having to have any ethnic or racial connections to the ancestry. A surname nowadays doesn't say that much about a person's genealogical background like it did when no mixing and cross and multi-cultural adoptions happened. Take the Jews as the most famous example. They can have German surnames but does that make them more German than someone named Manfred Pucinsky from your example? How about Negroes with Anglo Saxon names? No! Especially nowadays when people can change their names for whatever reason, to study someone's genealogy it takes more than a surname.

    Here's some examples which are actually very common in the area I live:

    a. Someone has a distant male Slavic ancestor, let's say 1/16 or 1/32 generations back. The Slavic guy married a German woman
    and they had a son with a Slavic surname. The son married another German woman and had children, amongst which sons. Some of the sons married and so on, until the Slavic admixture has become a tale of exotic ancestry within the family. If the male lineage keeps the surname, it will be in the family forever, even by the time the Slavic ancestry will have been a tiny 0.00000001 % percent.

    This story is one of the reasons why I'm against marriages with foreigners, btw. even when people say the children will be raised as Germans, etc. Some things pass inevitably into the culture, like Slavic surnames did. They're also communion Austria btw, Czech and Slovene influences. But anyway,

    b. Ethnic Germans or descendants from expellees from Slavic countries who changes their surnames to a Slavic version of their German name or took a completely new surname either to escape persecution or because the local laws and anti-Germanic measures forced them to. They retained the German language and customs at home while integrating in the public. So it's possible even for people who have no genetic Slavic ancestry to carry Slavic names just like negroes can carry English names from the time slaves adopted the surnames of their owners as they were freed.

    There can be more examples but I think these are enough to show genealogy is more than surnames, you need to know about the person's ethnic ancestry before you make a conclusion. Usually if they're from Germany, have no immigrant background and can trace their ancestry as German as far as the 3. Reich and during the Reich they were considered German, then it's safe to say they're German.

    So to put it in a nutshell yes, if they have a Slavic surname, but predominant or full German ancestry, they're fit for the forum. If someone with a surname like Adler, Bauer, Dietrich, Schuster, even Deutscher joins it's not a guarantee they're fellow Germans. These surnames are also used in the Jewish communities. That's why there's an ethnicity and ancestry field for people to identify their folk. Sure people can lie on the Internet, but usually their true allegiance and identity comes out at some point so we can spot the aliens even here on a forum. They usually provide the details so it's not that difficult, they give you the 2 + 2, you only need to realise it's a 4
    Aww, thx a lot for your definition and point of view of the situation! I understand your points but it's not easy to distinguish the said ethnic Germans with just a distant relict-like Slavic surname and real Slav-Germans with recent Slavic ancestry. :/ Some East Germans have a Slavic vibe in their physiognomy.

    I still think that they aren't a part of our people. But they can be allies and friends for our cause to clean Europe from the malevolent hordes that keep invading day by day!

    Good for you. I'm someone who rolls their eyes when I see a 'defender of Germany' who has no German ancestry. And on top on that who thinks he can define what German is and call German people less German than he is.
    I'm not here for arguments and beef. Don't grasp my passage as a slander. It's just a difficult situation. Hey, I can give you an example!

    The state chairman of Bavaria for our rightwing party AfD is a man named Petr Bystron. His family fled from communism in the late 80's from Czechoslovakia to Bavaria. He learnt German, integrated, is successful in job and a good politician because he can handle the crap of the media and other parties thrown at him.





    He says very patriotic stuff and attacks the leftwing parties whereever they are. And he has good media competencies & eloquent bearings.
    BUT he's still a former asylum seeker and speaks German with a small but hearable Czech accent.

    Petr Bystron Münchner Runde


    So what do you suggest? Shall I support him despite being a Czech who's bizarrely more patriotic about Germany than most Germans? Or should I keep distance until Bavaria's AfD is led by another person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    I think someone can feel defensive about the way Germany has been treated in the last 70 years without that person necessarily being of German descent. It ought to be clear to anyone.
    What you talk about are friends or allies of Germany, who can support our struggle without having to usurp our identity. They are fine and welcome.

    What I talk about is people who try to usurp our national identity and infiltrate as a part of our nation. Whose 'Germanicism' is usually a romantic or sexual interest in German women and try to dilute the definition of our people so they can fit in (with concepts like white nationalism, pan-europeanism, nordicism, etc.). It's a selfish trip for personal gain, but which in the long run can damage the wellbeing of our people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leliana View Post
    Aww, thx a lot for your definition and point of view of the situation! I understand your points but it's not easy to distinguish the said ethnic Germans with just a distant relict-like Slavic surname and real Slav-Germans with recent Slavic ancestry. :/ Some East Germans have a Slavic vibe in their physiognomy.
    Yes, that's why we need to see a bigger picture, surname, genealogy and genetic ancestry. There are Germans with recent Slavic ancestry as well, I know of several cases also. In fact I know people who have a German parent and another Slavic parent. Even if they speak German as a native language and grow up in a German environment you can still tell they are different from 'pure' Germans. Some end up having an identity crisis or inferiority complex and that's what I think should be avoided. Hence is my stance that intermarriages between different European groups should ideally not happen.

    I still think that they aren't a part of our people. But they can be allies and friends for our cause to clean Europe from the malevolent hordes that keep invading day by day!
    Some of them can be allies, with the bigger European picture it's more simple, but what about the day comes when their mother country, e.g. Russia is at conflict with their home country, Germany. Some will support Germany, but some will support Russia. Some will again feel torn between two identities. Things should ideally be more simple. Mixes create couple problems and psychological disorders. Actually many people experiencing them have a mixed background.

    I'm not here for arguments and beef. Don't grasp my passage as a slander. It's just a difficult situation. Hey, I can give you an example!
    I didn't mean it as a slander. To be more clear, I was referring to a specific situation, the Slavic person who joined the board a couple of days ago. He got upset because I asked him about his ancestry, which was fully Slavic, but he considered himself not only German, and his basis for that was because he wanted to (?!) but also started slandering me and my husband for not being real Germans because we are from East Germany, and Nordic Engel because "God and angels are dead". The truth is, I had to deal with such people before,

    The state chairman of Bavaria for our rightwing party AfD is a man named Petr Bystron. His family fled from communism in the late 80's from Czechoslovakia to Bavaria. He learnt German, integrated, is successful in job and a good politician because he can handle the crap of the media and other parties thrown at him.





    He says very patriotic stuff and attacks the leftwing parties whereever they are. And he has good media competencies & eloquent bearings.
    BUT he's still a former asylum seeker and speaks German with a small but hearable Czech accent.

    Pety Bystron Münchner Runde


    So what do you suggest? Shall I support him despite being a Czech who's bizarrely more patriotic about Germany than most Germans? Or should I keep distance until Bavaria's AfD is led by another person?
    I don't know much about this person to make an immediate individual judgement about his ancestry. Is it possible his ancestors were ethnic Germans from Czechoslovakia who lost their language because of anti-Germanism?

    But assuming he isn't and he's got Czech ancestry, I view him as an exception to the rule. To me such examples are acceptable in moderation, as some sort of allies or 'honorary Germans'. Of course in politics it's ok to support him, since political parties aren't perfect they have non-German and some even non-European members, but we support the Party and its politics as a whole. And he can't be asked to leave Germany after being integrated and part of it for such a time.

    But this status has to be an exception and not become so common it's a rule. We already have enough 2nd and 3rd generation foreigners who use the same argument to stay, many of who aren't even half as integrated.

    It's very rare these days to find an outsider (non-Germanic) who will place German interests over the interest of their own country and choose German interests if the two were in conflict. And even then, I don't think they would be ideal parents for a German child. Because the child has on the other hand an example that they can dodge their genetic ancestry, their family history, the language they spoke as a child, their first memories, their culture, folk tales, etc. just like that, and become part of a different culture. Or bring a different culture into the mix. So if they fancy the kebab seller from across the street, they will remember that their parent/grandparent/ancestor was also not a German, but he fit in somehow, so they can do the same. They bring the kebab to their parents, and they say nothing, because it would be hypocritical and racist.

    At the moment, in Germany, 1 in 5 kids are born with "migrant background" (that means non-European, usually a parent or very close relative). That's 20%. Somebody else said it's 1 in 4 in Sweden (or some other Scandinavian country? ), that's 25%. We continue allowing aliens into the fold, one day, the percentages will be reversed and we'll be reading news like "1 in 5 children have ethnic German background". And that would be very sad. We are already reaching so close to the point of no return. We need German children, and by that is meant children of predominant or ideally full German background. So at this point even interbreeding with other Europeans can lead to dilution of our blood, ancestry and culture. Because we're not a perfect society and all sort of exceptions and odd cases exist doesn't mean a green light to perpetuate it. If someone has a handicapped child they can still support the development or better, more specialised pre-natal tests.

    I assume we want forums to reflect the ideal place or society we'd like to be a part of. Presence and influence of foreigners goes beyond physical and biological components. Yes, they can't interbreed in a online community, but they can leave their mark and infest it with the wrong, anti-Germanic ideas. The worst that happened so far was for such a person to rise to moderator position, and try to gain influence with the staff and administration starting by easy, safe topics like forum structure but ending up writing in threads that foreign women (Filipino, Chinese, Asian in general) are preferable to his own nation, because Dutch women are plastic. He gained some supporters for his position. When he released his girlfriend was not Germanic, European or even white, some people chose to close their eyes and ears, pretend they didn't see it. Because he was a respected member and moderator it was difficult to dethrone and some members looked up to him years after the story. It happens on forums but it happens in everyday life just as much, and because people are used to it or can't justify what already is present, they don't speak against race mixing, multiculturalism, political correctness and other concepts which are slowly embedding, deeper and deeper into our nations.

    I was deemed as radical and close minded on this forum many times because I'm not pro ideas like ethnic mixing and prefer a community for Germanics only, even when this is part of the written scope of Skadi! But some people still don't seem to understand it.

    Those who want to make an anthropology forum, online academy, library or whatever out of Skadi, it's all great until it conflicts with the Germanic spectrum. That shouldn't be sacrificed for the sake of more activity, debate or 'interesting' topics. Asian, Iranid, Yezidi or Kazach themes may be regular on Apricity or Anthroscape, but when Skadi gets them daily it should raise eyebrows. The anthropology and thought-provoking discussion wish of some people and promoting Skadi for its sake on those boards already attracted a few questionable, dubious people. Well let's see. I look forward to the day proper Germanics sign up to discuss such themes. Until then I think a cautious eye is needed for the board and the kind of people it attracts.

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    Skadi is Trivial

    Skadi has become worse than a sewing circle. It has become a pathetic shadow of its former self. You people indulge in the most trivial of conversations while the issues of the day either just go over your heads or you simply don't care. You Europeans especially, aside from the British, deserve the Europe you have generated.

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    I think the issues nowadays get derailed onto the "I" word. Homosexuality? Immigration? Crime? People mention the Moslems and ignore all else.

    Nowadays people have Tumblr and Twitter for shaking their fists in the air. I would just like to see analysis of current affairs else none at all. Issues on the internet just means outlets for anger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Skadi has become worse than a sewing circle. It has become a pathetic shadow of its former self. You people indulge in the most trivial of conversations while the issues of the day either just go over your heads or you simply don't care. You Europeans especially, aside from the British, deserve the Europe you have generated.
    Whats keeping you here then?

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    Ja, and what have you contributed?... Perhaps all this frustration with Skadi you are displaying is likely due to frustration with your own impotence to change anything and this is coming out side ways. Strap in boy, your along for the ride anyway, man up and grow a pair... Amazing how easily people will cannibalize their own.

    PS: Why the Cape Province?

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    Britain isn't really in better shape than most of Western Europe, there are plenty of barbarian "no-go" zones already. The Euro-exit is also not really likely to lead to fundamental policy and social shifts and changes either.

    Britain's rulers are already allied to Islamic Terrorist formations (ISIS, Turkey, Saudi Arabia etc) and are more concerned with keeping the peace on domestic soil than they are in fighting "global terrorism" (which they deliberately fund, stoke and support for geopolitical reasons, the same as France, Germany and the USA does.)

    As for the forum, it's also a social club amongst other things where people can escape for a while from the reality of life outside. People already know what most of the "issues" are and don't need to be told and indoctrinated exclusively with political and social conditioning.

    It is basically what you make of it. If you want more serious discussions, then post more insightful, interesting and serious material and try harder to engage members' interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    Whats keeping you here then?
    Quite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    ...As for the forum, it's also a social club amongst other things where people can escape for a while from the reality of life outside. People already know what most of the "issues" are and don't need to be told and indoctrinated exclusively with political and social conditioning.

    It is basically what you make of it. If you want more serious discussions, then post more insightful, interesting and serious material and try harder to engage members' interest.
    Exactement!

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