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    Iceland Wants UK to Join Nordic Alliance of Non-EU Countries

    Iceland wants UK to join Nordic alliance of non-EU countries

    After knocking England out of the European football, Iceland hopes Britain will join a new union after Brexit, shaping a northern "super-triangle" together with Norway.

    When Britain leaves the EU, we will see a triangle that covers a large part of the globe: Greenland, Iceland, the Faroe Islands, Norway - and now the United Kingdom,” Iceland’s President Olafur Ragnar Grimsson said in an interview to Iceland Monitor.

    The countries do not belong to the European Economic Area (EEA) or any part of the EU.

    Grimsson suggests that after Brexit, the countries will potentially play a big role.

    “It is about trade, diplomacy, commodities and several other fields,” Grimsson said, stressing that the Arctic, or the far north, would become more important not only in a European, but in a global context as well.

    The European Free Trade Association (EFTA), made up of Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, and Switzerland, will also become much more relevant after UK’s escape from the European bloc, according to the president.

    “It is of course up to the British to decide what to do, but this could give the EFTA partners a more important role than in previous decades,” he said, adding that it would be a chance for Norway and Iceland to improve the working of the organization.

    However, Norway’s Prime Minister Erna Solberg does not share the same enthusiasm about the idea.

    “Do we want Britain to be involved in dictating what EFTA negotiates with third countries? Will our key national interests be benefited by that? That is the discussion we need to have,” she told the Norwegian News Agency, pointing out that the organization could have good ties with Britain through other agreements.

    Even if the trade bloc were probable, it was ”not nearly as desirable as what we are just giving up,” says Michael Dougan, Professor of EU law at Liverpool University as quoted by The Independent.

    He added that to become a member of the EEA, Britain would need unanimous accord of all 27 member states, the European Parliament as well as the four European Free Trade Association countries.
    https://www.rt.com/business/349008-i...orthern-union/

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    Britain would bring more influence to EFTA
    http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/po...uence_to_efta/

    Currently Norway is casting doubt on whether Britain will be allowed into EFTA. The Norwegian political class is worried that the UK entering EFTA/EEA would tip the balance, as this country is much larger in economy and population. Europhiles would also not like for the EEA agreement to be renegotiated (easier if a large country enters), which would make the chances of Norwegian EU membership recede even further.

    At the same time, as the OP says, Iceland as well as Switzerland have said receptive things about the possibility of EFTA membership for us. But there has to be unanimous approval among the 4 current members to allow a new member.

    In terms of the Brexit negotiations, no EFTA would complicate things. It would take the EEA option off the table, as that is an agreement between the EU and EFTA. Britain would also not benefit from the worldwide trade deals EFTA has negotiated.

    Britain is a founding member of EFTA, until we made the mistake of joining the EU back in 1973. If we are allowed to rejoin I hope we can turn the organisation into a non-political alternative to the EU, and entice other nations (among them, the Dutch, Italians, Swedes, and Danes) to join us on the outside.

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    Hmm, if you get past the slight stretching of definitions that has the UK named a "Nordic country" this might actually work.

    One of the major problems facing with the EU is that the economies of northern and southern Europe are too different in terms of levels of prosperity to allow a stable union to be formed without the north having to constantly support, subsidise and eventually bail-out the south (or parts of it).

    But an alliance of a few northern countries probably would work and have a chance to remain stable, at least from an economic stand point.
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    Would be great if we could have our own union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horned God View Post
    Hmm, if you get past the slight stretching of definitions that has the UK named a "Nordic country" this might actually work.
    It certainly isn´t a Southern European country.
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    Ideally it could be the start of something new, perhaps something that could inspire other European countries as well, adjusted to their own political and cultural context.

    It could be the start of a sort of 'Germanic union' which in the first place does not make the mistake of incorporating countries that are either culturally, politically or economically incompatible and secondly, because it would have eurosceptic and non-EU members at its foundation, it would not make the mistake of overintegrating the countries into a common block, but respect their differences.

    Perhaps this could inspire the Visegrad-countries as well to pursue an eastern variant of such a more viable type of union, leaving only Western and Southern Europe behind to follow the example, again based on their own specific political and cultural context.

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    I'll bet Scotland is pissed right about now.

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    There was talk a few years back of reviving the Hanseatic League by the Dutch prime minister. If this were ever to be a reality I hope they would make a complete break from the EU and it's corrupt practices. It's no surprise we have heard nothing about it since.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...04000223716120

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    I'm very happy that this project is not just in my head and that it's being embraced by the participants! Some kind of Anglo-Nordic Hanseatic League would be the best alternative to the EU.
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    I think this is a good idea too. I would like the UK to be part of a Nordic Alliance.

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