The AfD is a Politically Correct Party

[Ocko]

Merkel brings in millions of illegals, pays them royally and put them into nice hotels.

She does so criminally as that is against German laws.

[Theunissen]

You are both correct. The task ahead then is creating a narrative that endorses both of you as correct.

However the first time the USA had racial (naturalisation) laws the definition of "White" seemingly resembled the anthropological definition, explicitly including Maghrebi Moslems. Only later did the US right speak of non-assimilable Europeans in an immigration context. In any case to be American is to be Anglo in some way or other although the German blood has proved most dynamic, the Anglo nature of America being implicit. Though the naturalisation laws seem racist today, it was such attachment to a proposition (including Whiteness) rather than a founding stock that undermined America's homogeneity.

That's right, founding fathers had a specific type of people in mind and those didn't include those we'd view today as turd-worlders. They knew that demography has serious implications for future policy, to put it mildly.

The AfD sits with a difficult situation. They oppose selling out of German interest and dissolving the German people as a political and cultural entity. Meanwhile they sit with an overwhelming belief in people that "racism is wrong". That's not a conclusion people reached by logic and experience, but one that has been induced with psychology and distortion of history. The argument goes as follows:"Last time we had 'racism' as policy, this lead to gassing-of-six-million-Jews, hence we can't allow any raise of 'racism' again" - No matter what the consequences are. (Should I add that cucks and liberals in South Africa were also frequently, outraged Holocaust believers?).

There are Germans that are staunch Nationalists and either don't believe in the Holocaust or it isn't really relevant for them. They aren't necessarily National Socialists, but they want to preserve the German Nation as political force and with a German character. Within the AfD I think Bjoern Hoecke would represent that kind of people. Others aren't that outspoken, but they're worried about the consequences of mass immigration. Some of those people are even liberals, since the newcomers aren't exactly tolerant, feminist, homophile friends of Jews. Most of those would be considered "conservatives" or "centrist" though and they represent kind of the traditional voters for CDU and SPD. Now on the one hand the AfD has to appeal to the more Nationalist minded people, but has to appeal to those cucked with Holocaust propaganda and Nazi-past as well. Difficult job to do, but it seems they're already through it.

The AfD can't stipulate in their program that Hitler wasn't that bad (which would be the truth) or that the Holocaust is an atrocity lie (that's actually a fact). But they could demand freedom of research and publishing with regards to such matters arguing that jailing Revisionists and suppressing publication is against the dignity of a liberal democracy.

While I deem the AfD as semi-cucks, I think having them in parliament and in public presence will help to break the ice on many issue. It will also annoy those career politicians from the establishment parties, provoking them to say more stupid stuff - further breaking their hegemony they have for decades.

For other European countries the issue wasn't that big, since they got rightist parties for some decades no. There still is leftist hegemony and habitual voting, but it wasn't so easy to blackmail the Dutch, French or Greek people emotionally with some Holocaust tales and Nazi comparisons. Hell, especially in Eastern Europe it's still common sense for a politician to be patriotic regardless whether he is on the left or right. And that's how it should be.

[Ocko]

I also think that the AFD is the furthest to the right as Germans are willing to go.

The party right of the AfD, the NPD, is the poster-picture Nazi party who are actually anti-Semitic in the limited way, the laws allow.

The AfD is pro Jewish, and one of their main supporters, Michael Stürzensberger, runs a website in cooperation with Israel. (PI-news.com).

So it is a kosher party. But I think they have potential, as Höcke seems to be the pretty right wing border with links to the NPD.

Germans are slow to change their habits and opinions.

It's a step in the right direction but it's too little, too late.

[Ocko]

http://www.werbe-blechschilder.de/bi...-1015-1042.jpg

That's the new border sign in Germany

[Herr Rentz]

Just now heard a report on D-W that "Jews have a place in the AfD..."

They claim it is to fight anti-semitism from Muslims.

AfD concurs and there are Jews in the Party.

I'm not at all certain what I think about this development within the Party.

What are your thoughts or opinions?

[Astragoth]

Just the obvious. With jews you lose. Jews will do what they always do infiltrate and destroy the host.

[Herr Rentz]

I concur. I would not want them in the Party and would do everything in my power to keep them out.

But, then, what public perception does this give the Party if they are knowingly excluding Jews based on past experiences?

Should there be some token Jews here and there just to keep up appearances and excluding them from any decision or policy making provisions?

[velvet]

It's a two-sided sword, but they aim to teach that Jews are an ethno-cultural group (not a religion) and they stand against imported "islamic anti-semitism", ending in rejecting all muslim immigration and political islamic structures.

Plus that they promote an alliance between right-wing conservatism and jewish interests. While this makes the "right-wing" sort of kosher, it works both ways, since anti-semitism is a punishable offence, thus taking away a weapon from the cultural-marxists when "right-wing" AfD stands in for Jewish interests against muslim immigration.

Personally I think it sucks supreme, but ever since lesbian Goldman-Sachs Alice Weidel took over the AfD it should have been clear to anyone that they're at best a stepstone anyway, not a viable solution to anything. They're serving to break up structures, and they're doing that well so far, so the ethno-nationalists would do good in simply letting them continue to do that and not attack them. Specially since there are also ethno-nationalists in the party.

AfD also appears to remember slowly their original party goal against EU and Euro, a topic that was overwhelmed by the "rapefugee crisis", but now returns. It's equally important as immigration, or even more so, since the EU's goal is the dissolution of nations and the Euro wrecks havoc across Europe.

These are vital topics which must be put back into public discussion, and AfD is doing that and has the ability to do it since they're in parliament. Whether one likes it or not, they're the only voice against all the insanity, and for as long as they remain the only heard voice, they'll have my support. They're doing the groundwork for a national consciousness, on which ethno-nationalism can then build.

Abramovych behauptete, dass das Judentum eine „ethno-kulturelle Gemeinschaft“, sei. Das Bewusstsein darüber sei aber in Deutschland „weitgehend“ abhandengekommen. Das sei mit ein Grund dafür, „dass eine gewisse Affinität des Judentums in Europa zu rechtskonservativen Parteien“ bestehe. Religiöse Aspekte thematisierten die Gründungsmitglieder nicht. Vielleicht gibt es sie gar nicht.

„Israel und die AfD in der Presse einseitig dargestellt“

Auch ihre Satzung wollte die Gruppe nicht öffentlich zugänglich machen – einzig eine zweiseitige „Grundsatzerklärung“ war einzusehen. Demnach sehe man in dem Wunsch der AfD, Deutschland zu „einer selbstbewusste Nation“ zu machen, „durchaus keinen Widerspruch zu jüdischen Interessen“. Eine „Allianz der Rechtskonservativen in Europa mit dem Judentum“ liege sogar äußert nahe.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...Bedeutung.html

[Aelfgar]

The way to stop a political party from being destroyed by 'entryism' is to have certain fundamental policies or principles in the constitution which are either unchangeable or can only be changed by a 2/3 majority vote of members. For example: "Immigrants to Germany must be from countries which have a European first language."

[Leliana]

There's an opposition within AfD against such a group, but again, we are a party with ~31.000 members, there are different plattforms, 'wings' and such. People can organize groups, whatever. That Jewish group starts with around 25- to 40 members. It doesn't matter that much. Better than Muslims. Beatrix von Storch received strong rejection for her BS idea...