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    The Legend of the Palc Prince of Gcsej: Images of Bridled Deer and Antlered Horses

    Deer and antler-bridled horse symbolism in Germanic and wider Eurasian myths.

    https://www.academia.edu/2914005/The...ntlered_Horses

    In distant areas of Eurasia, we sporadically encounter traditions andimages of deer in the role of horses. These seem to be isolated cases,with no apparent connection between the ethnic groups and thecontext of the motif, yet the motif itself is so rare and distinctive thatwe must ask ourselves whether it stems from a common tradition,possibly carried by trade routes or migrations. One example is thedeer-drawn chariot of Artemis, which is a rare iconographic motif belonging to Greek Antiquity. A king of the Goths is said to haveridden in a deer-drawn chariot, a legendary element only mirrored inthe deer-drawn chariot of a prince mentioned in the legend of Kmahza in Gcsej, Hungary. This legend has not yet received wideattention, and will therefore be the main focus of this paper. I willidentify very ancient epic material in this tradition. The motif of thedeer-drawn chariot and its connotations will be used to authenticatethe tradition of origin of a pre-Magyar population in Gcsej.

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    In the far north reindeer draw sleds. Could that not be the origin of deer drawn vehicles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    In the far north reindeer draw sleds. Could that not be the origin of deer drawn vehicles?
    If I'm not mistaken reindeer are the only deer that can pull sleds, but I don't remember exactly why. As far as I know reindeer are not known to have been yoked even as novelties further south than the boreal zone. Reindeer never expanded their range further south after their domestication, maybe because they can be more skittish than horses or oxen.

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    Yes but look at the Greek satyr thing, a half man, half horse. Some Greek must have traveled to the European plain and must have seen early horse riding and confused the two creatures into one. Likewise, someone must have traveled north and seen reindeer pulling a sled.

    Actually reindeer are domestic animals. In Canada these same creatures are called caribou and do not pull sleds or act in any way as a domestic animal. Someone in Europe or Asia domesticated their ancient caribou which became reindeer. Caribou all have antlers and are perhaps a bit bigger and stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Yes but look at the Greek satyr thing, a half man, half horse. Some Greek must have traveled to the European plain and must have seen early horse riding and confused the two creatures into one. Likewise, someone must have traveled north and seen reindeer pulling a sled.

    Actually reindeer are domestic animals. In Canada these same creatures are called caribou and do not pull sleds or act in any way as a domestic animal. Someone in Europe or Asia domesticated their ancient caribou which became reindeer. Caribou all have antlers and are perhaps a bit bigger and stronger.
    The reason caribou were never domesticated in the New World is because the technology of saddles and harnesses was imitated from those used with horses and oxen.

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