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    Thumbs Up Rebels in Syria Fight with Rare, Expensive Nazi-made Sturmgwehr 44



    A Syrian rebel faction called the al-Tawhid Brigade stumbled on an arms cache of 5,000 German WWII-era Sturmgwehr 44 (STG-44) rifles.

    The STG-44 was designed to increase the volume of fire for German infantry units fighting on the Eastern Front against the Soviet Red Army. It accomplished this mission but was developed too late in the war to make an impact.

    The rebels thought they’d found a cache of Ak-47s. The two don’t look that much alike, but it’s understandable how the ill-armed and ill-equipped group would get excited at their find anyway.

    Besides, there’s little reason to see how 5,000 Nazi-built rifles worth an estimated $30,000 apiece ended up in the Syrian desert.

    The al-Tawhid Brigade was an Islamist faction originally allied with the Free Syrian Army and the Syrian National Coalition against the government of Bashar al-Asad. In 2013, the al-Tawhid Brigade along with 11 other factions, would leave the Coalition and join al-Qaeda. That same year, its head commander died of wounds sustained in a Syrian government air strike and the group’s membership would defect to the various other groups fighting pro-Asad forces. The group is now defunct.

    There is no word on what happened to the rare, expensive Nazi relics. For those keeping tabs at home, that’s a $150 million dollar loss.

    Keep an eye out for those STG-44s. They’ve shown up in state-sponsored gun buybacks in California and Connecticut.



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    Besides, there’s little reason to see how 5,000 Nazi-built rifles worth an estimated $30,000 apiece ended up in the Syrian desert.
    This a over the roof estimate, I have bought several with tax stamps in excellent condition with matching numbers in the $3,000 to $5,000 range over the years. You can get them even less if they are banged around a bit.

    The problem with these is quality ammo, if you can get good WWII era German ammo that was stored properly they are awesome. Those will cost around $3 to 5$ per round. The after war Eastern European ammo would be the next best bet, but still low quality.

    You are better off still necking down a 8mm and reloading ammo yourself.
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    I just read an article on the Sturmgewehr 44 in a magazine called AK-47 And Soviet Weaponry. The Sturmgewehr 44 was the ancestor of the AK47. As far as they knew, there were only about 3 left and only one worked.

    SpearBrave, are you saying you have or can by one of these guns for:

    This a over the roof estimate, I have bought several with tax stamps in excellent condition with matching numbers in the $3,000 to $5,000 range over the years. You can get them even less if they are banged around a bit.

    If so, you have a huge economic windfall coming if you sell these guns in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahnenerbe View Post


    A Syrian rebel faction called the al-Tawhid Brigade stumbled on an arms cache of 5,000 German WWII-era Sturmgwehr 44 (STG-44) rifles.

    The STG-44 was designed to increase the volume of fire for German infantry units fighting on the Eastern Front against the Soviet Red Army. It accomplished this mission but was developed too late in the war to make an impact.

    The rebels thought they’d found a cache of Ak-47s. The two don’t look that much alike, but it’s understandable how the ill-armed and ill-equipped group would get excited at their find anyway.

    Besides, there’s little reason to see how 5,000 Nazi-built rifles worth an estimated $30,000 apiece ended up in the Syrian desert.

    The al-Tawhid Brigade was an Islamist faction originally allied with the Free Syrian Army and the Syrian National Coalition against the government of Bashar al-Asad. In 2013, the al-Tawhid Brigade along with 11 other factions, would leave the Coalition and join al-Qaeda. That same year, its head commander died of wounds sustained in a Syrian government air strike and the group’s membership would defect to the various other groups fighting pro-Asad forces. The group is now defunct.

    There is no word on what happened to the rare, expensive Nazi relics. For those keeping tabs at home, that’s a $150 million dollar loss.

    Keep an eye out for those STG-44s. They’ve shown up in state-sponsored gun buybacks in California and Connecticut.



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    As a separate thought, how does one stumble upon Nazi relics in the Syrian desert? It sounds like a movie plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    As a separate thought, how does one stumble upon Nazi relics in the Syrian desert? It sounds like a movie plot.
    Read a similar story on a site that aggregates 4chan green text, only it was American troops and a cache m98s and spam cans of 8X57.

    The story is nonsense, the weapons would be worthless without a crap load of good 7.62x33 mm ammo. They did see some action in 3rd world shit holes during the cold war, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    I just read an article on the Sturmgewehr 44 in a magazine called AK-47 And Soviet Weaponry. The Sturmgewehr 44 was the ancestor of the AK47. As far as they knew, there were only about 3 left and only one worked.

    SpearBrave, are you saying you have or can by one of these guns for:

    This a over the roof estimate, I have bought several with tax stamps in excellent condition with matching numbers in the $3,000 to $5,000 range over the years. You can get them even less if they are banged around a bit.

    If so, you have a huge economic windfall coming if you sell these guns in the USA.
    They are not uncommon as far as WWII relic weapons go. Try going to any military collector show or gun show, you will see at least a dozen or so for sale in various states of condition.

    You cannot believe the old Soviet story of how they developed the AK47, very true they simply copied the STG44/MP44. The differences between the AK 47 and Stg were the receiver stamping which did not effect how the weapon actually functioned. Even the 7.62x39 round was a copy of the 7.92X33 Kurz.

    Really the only difference in the Stg 44 and the MP 44 is the name. They were far more common late war than most people realized. There are many pictures of Germans using them. Also hordes of them were found after the war unissued.

    A MP38 0r MP40 with matching serial numbers in unissued condition is a much harder find that a MP44. Even the G43 rifle that has not been altered is harder to find than a MP44.

    German WWII weapons and motorized armor were very common in the Israel Arab wars in the 60s and 70s.

    BTW HK tactical rifles are all based on the MP 44 though most are in .308 NATO.

    The 44s I bought have been sold long ago, I used to dabble a bit in class 3 weapons and even had a dealers license for over 20 years.
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    a heap of the STG44's went to the middle east after WWII to Arab nations...its not a surprise to people in the know
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    I am aware of all the back and forth about the SG44 and the AK47. If we had SG44s someone would come up with more ammo. I still think anyone bringing any quantity of SG44s to the USA and a gunshow would make a forturne.

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