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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard View Post
    Like I said, they are not a völkisch movement. Their aim is predominantly of an activist nature and there is only an ideology to the extent it supports this goal. They are quite clear about this. It's not abstract, it's political. The study of what is European should be the work of others.
    Their form of identity is inorganic and abstract by its nature, and correct? I have nothing really against a European identity, but did European people down the century identify as Europeans? They may have had an awareness of Catholicism as European, after the pagans were out the way, but the emphasis was on the Church.

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    This is beside the point. Your claim referred to identitarianism in general not their form of identity. And as a movement identitarianism is not 'entirely on the abstract level'. On the contrary.
    Their concept of European identity is a discussion in its own right. But the movement is in no way an example of identity politics and neither is it properly völkisch. That was the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard View Post
    This is beside the point. Your claim referred to identitarianism in general not their form of identity. And as a movement identitarianism is not 'entirely on the abstract level'. On the contrary.
    Identitarianism, the politics we are seeing right now, I actually is a specific form of identity. It's the right co-opting the letf's identity politics.

    The Western identity they talk about is nearly as worthless as Queer identities or whatever.

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    Cucks are a major health-hazard. The degeneracy and anti-European civilisational values they represent and support cannot be overstated.

    They're no better than die-hard Clinton supporters, pedophiles, Saudi terrorist financiers, Spooks, Cultural Marxists, Social Engineers, the Agenda 21 squad and Banksters.

    Remove with extreme prejudice - society can only benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catterick View Post
    Identitarianism, the politics we are seeing right now
    What does this mean?

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    Something amazing just happened and some of the usually well-informed Skadites seem barely aware of it! The debate we're currently seeing in this thread is quite irrelevant in the light of recent events, I fear.

    Ever since H. Clinton's speech Google statistics indicate a tremendous interest of the public researching the topic. News outlets, major and minor, both online and ofline, have been writing articles about the alt right for weeks, one after the other. They can't ignore the opposition anymore and the genie is out of the bottle, forever. The tide is turning and the game has changed.

    The alt. right gave us our biggest political success in years, the alt right is our child. The establishment fears the alt right and hence it fears us once more. It's fantastic, it's everything I didn't dare to dream of out of fear of disappointment.
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    My problem with that and why in part I was alienated from it the past few years is that it has taken it to go full meme shitposting at the expense of what originally had at least some intellectual/philosophical grounding to get anywhere. Essentially they are playing up to their own anime-basement parody. Now it will remain to be seen if they can capitalise on this new found notoriety and actually purge the 'undesirables' from the movement. I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flag-Soil View Post
    Alternative-Right is the latest prominence of the anonymous, online backlash against the neoliberal globalist zeitgeist. Online because neoliberal globalists control the mainstream media, and anonymous because they have demonised, pathologised and criminalised the democratic opposition, namely social conservatism, nationalism, patriotism etc.
    Exactly. It's us, the "new right" converging with normies, the manosphere (not in the least the pranksters of reddit, a fearsome force to be reckoned with because they have never lost a battle) and internauts in general. And out of this collusion emerges the alt. right.

    Perhaps the biggest threat to the alt. right is that it will become one more 'Tea Party', hijacked and mainstreamed by cuckservatives within a year. Luckily prominent alt rightists are aware of this and made it abundantly clear that if you don't believe in white selfdetermination you can never be alt right. But because of all the confusion as to what the alt right is every MRA with republican leanings might think he's alt. right today. Some gatekeeping is in order.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spearbrave
    With the video that Flag-Soil posted, it states that the alt-right is mainly an American thing. If this is true and given young people tend to not vote, it is very important to get them to vote this year for Trump.
    It's an Anglosaxon thing, yes. That means Americans are of course the biggest contributors, but it's really a hot item in the entire Anglosphere. The alt. right backs Trump all the way and they will all vote for him (hence H. Clinton's speech on the matter), but without being blind to some of the man's flaws either. Moreover, Trump realizes he needs the alt. right, they have been his best propagandists since day one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roybatty
    But for example, that Neocon mischling Murdoch (the owner of the #Cuckservative Fox Media Empire, the Sun, the pro-Globalisation and Open Borders Wall Street Journal) is supposed to be representative of the 'Alt-Right'? Is this some kind of ironic joke being played on naive observers?
    RB, Watson, Lauren Southern, Molyneux and the Infowars crowd are the libertarian pillar of the alt right - there are almost as many conspiracy theories surrounding AJ as he comes up with himself - but they're ethnonationalist enough these days, clearly they support ethnonationalism with their videos and articles, Lauren Southern has been branded a racist over and over again by the MSM. Also, they report on black on white crime. Watson doesn't see anything wrong with the Jews and their influence in our world though. And yet Infowars contributed a lot to spreading awareness of the existence of the alt right. If you start looking into the alt right because of racially awoken libertarians, you'll soon come across other ideas and ideologues too. Taki Mag is alt right, still more so than Infowars. Murdoch, of course, isn't. Breitbart is a more complicated matter: some of its journalists are alt right, while others aren't - some of them left Breitbart because of its new orientation. Breitbart has a lengthy prehistory of cuckservatism, but that is the past.

    What best describes the alt right is this action: when Hillary Clinton spoke of the alt right - at the exact moment she uttered the words - an alt rightist subversive standing in the crowd yelled 'Pepe'... and every alt rightist immediately got it. It was the perfect middle finger and the cause of much laughter in cyberspace.

    Here it is, isn't it beautiful:



    And then there's this alt. right cartoon about the matter...



    And this is just a handful of the stories (mostly from our enemies) about the alt right that appeared in the media ever since Hillary Clinton spoke about it:

    Why the alt right isn't wrong.

    ‘A sense that white identity is under attack’: making sense of the alt-right

    Alt-right vs. Conservative Inc.

    Alt Right Rejoices at Donald Trump’s Steve Bannon Hire

    What's the alt-Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by renownedwolf View Post
    My problem with that and why in part I was alienated from it the past few years is that it has taken it to go full meme shitposting at the expense of what originally had at least some intellectual/philosophical grounding to get anywhere. Essentially they are playing up to their own anime-basement parody. Now it will remain to be seen if they can capitalise on this new found notoriety and actually purge the 'undesirables' from the movement. I doubt it.
    The very reason the alt-right has gained its place is that it has used the internet to touch a large majority of people. What we all too often fail to realize is that the majority of people think on that low-grade meme level. And majority rules. Scary, huh?

    To be honest, most people have never gotten too intellectual about politics. What they do is to go with their feelings and rely upon what others think to guide them. There might be a lot of fat on the alt-right, but it still needs the likes of us to provide a well-thought-out backbone. We need to populate those comment sections and hammer on the lies people still repeat, so the intellect of those who matter are triggered into action as well. The mass of the movement will carry them along.

    That said, any opportunity to make the leftists look like the unhinged lunatics they are should not be missed. The likes of "Trigglypuff" and other SJWs are really scaring people into worrying that our future might be in the hands of such people, so they are beginning to realize that we are the sane ones.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    Exclamation

    No gatekeeping. That´s what kept WN in a rathole of whining for decades.

    Just push on full forward with anyone against the Left.

    No more Hitler failure loser trap-ins.
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