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    With the video that Flag-Soil posted, it states that the alt-right is mainly an American thing. If this is true and given young people tend to not vote, it is very important to get them to vote this year for Trump.

    While I don't think Trump will reverse things to where the should be, I do know what will happen if Hillary will get elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catterick View Post
    How was that alt-right map compiled? It looks iffy.
    It does look very arbitrary.

    Forseti got a mention.

    But for example, that Neocon mischling Murdoch (the owner of the #Cuckservative Fox Media Empire, the Sun, the pro-Globalisation and Open Borders Wall Street Journal) is supposed to be representative of the 'Alt-Right'? Is this some kind of ironic joke being played on naive observers?

    Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson? - It's debatable what their true agenda really is. (Making money from easily manipulable goyim through media activities being the most likely explanation.)

    Taki's Mag? No way, certainly not Taki himself although Jim Goad comes a lot closer.

    Stormfront - probably a Fed controlled honeytrap to keep tabs on hillbillies and the sub room temperature IQ brigade.

    Occidental Dissent - Used to be NeoCon & Cuckservative orientated (meaning there were many shabbos goyim and Israel first'ers amongst them), is that still the case today?

    Why no mention of A Wyatt Man whose famously prophetic cartoons and memes from decades ago have been enjoying an Internet revival of late?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson? - It's debatable what their true agenda really is. (Making money from easily manipulable goyim through media activities being the most likely explanation.)
    Can you say "controlled opposition"? Just what legitimate journalism and whistleblowing needs is Alex Jones flailing his arms. Then again he is popular, like an American David Icke. Suppose they could be got on team we would have an army of paranoid retards, too scared of allegedly omniopotent elites to act.

    Conspiracy theorist nonsense fills the hole left by the end of piercing journalism. People can see their media is controlled even if they don't know who is behind it, or why, and they demand narratives. Even trivia like the life of Jimmy Saville gets the public paranoid about the BBC, for example. People like InfoWars and the David Icke circle feed and manage this demand for explanatory stories. Such outlets provide distraction by concentrating the public gaze upon trivialities, and minimise the effects of truth by blurring verified or verifiable facts into a web of untruth. But - most - of all they present power structures as something its nigh on impossible for normal people to go against. People watch InfoWars out of feelings of helplessness and end up feeling much more helpless afterwards. The single most important criticism of conspiracy culture must be that it is highly demotivational.

    The push to ban conspiracy theory is of course a response to unalligned researchers and whistleblowers, picking up on and releasing truth through the decentralised internet. Especially WikiLeaks, which made intelligence agencies seem fallible. It is difficult for the deep state to control the net, so they aim for a psychiatric damnation of researchers. This is made easier for them by the fact many people obsessed with conspiracies actually are pathological. Running parallel to the moral panic of the death of feminism and such is the fear, in deep state agencies, that they are now obsoleted. Their methods don't work and the scale of their jobs is too great for them to manage in the data age. When they complain about conspiracy theorists they don't mean Alex Jones.

    Stormfront - probably a Fed controlled honeytrap to keep tabs on hillbillies and the sub room temperature IQ brigade.
    Reading Stormfront UK is a game of spot the spook. In a single thread I spotted three.

    Why no mention of A Wyatt Man whose famously prophetic cartoons and memes from decades ago have been enjoying an Internet revival of late?
    Because he was just a Satanist larping? When he did those cartoons racism was the edgiest thing you could proclaim - even in jest.

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    Identitarianism is merely imitation of what gays, childless feminists and BLM are up to. Organic identities to not even function this way, Genuinely volkish things are culturally subconscious. Embracing modern identity politics leaves people prone to outside manipulation - let's you and him fight. I refer the reader to what Julie's Evola said on the matter of flags and other esoteric symbols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    OK, I'm fully on board with the ideas in this poster or whatever you call it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catterick View Post
    Identitarianism is merely imitation of what gays, childless feminists and BLM are up to. Organic identities to not even function this way, Genuinely volkish things are culturally subconscious. Embracing modern identity politics leaves people prone to outside manipulation - let's you and him fight. I refer the reader to what Julie's Evola said on the matter of flags and other esoteric symbols.
    Identity politics is a means of emancipating a certain part of the population into political life. Identitarianism focusses on the center of political life and aims to change this. It's not a type of identity politics.
    And while they are not a purely völkisch movement, the most völkisch authors have always acknowledged the twofold object of völkisch thought, namely that it aims to discover what the nature of the Volk is (the subconscious) and that it shapes society accordingly (a conscious act of will).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard View Post
    Identity politics is a means of emancipating a certain part of the population into political life. Identitarianism focusses on the center of political life and aims to change this. It's not a type of identity politics.
    And while they are not a purely völkisch movement, the most völkisch authors have always acknowledged the twofold object of völkisch thought, namely that it aims to discover what the nature of the Volk is (the subconscious) and that it shapes society accordingly (a conscious act of will).
    From what I have seen of Identitarianism on the right it is entirely at the abstract and conscious level. Did our ancestors have a European identity? Such ideologies must be conscious by their very nature.

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    Like I said, they are not a völkisch movement. Their aim is predominantly of an activist nature and there is only an ideology to the extent it supports this goal. They are quite clear about this. It's not abstract, it's political. The study of what is European should be the work of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Mostly okay, but I've got to disagree with some of the things here.

    Let's take "Cuckservatism" out of the "Major Opposition" column and replace it with "European Federalism" and "Islam and Judaism." Cuckservatism can go in the "moderate opposition" column. Definitely take Trump University out of the "crony capitalism" category, though.

    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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