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    Scottish Parliament: SNP Wins, Tories Beat Labour for 2nd Place

    First time in 60 years the Scottish Tories have beaten Labour:

    The Labour party is braced for a humiliating slump to third place in Scotland after the Conservatives pulled off a shock win in Edinburgh.

    Scottish Tory’ leader Ruth Davidson unexpectedly won the Edinburgh Central seat with a huge swing against Labour and the SNP – after her party came in fourth place in 2011.

    The result comes as it appeared the Tories may finish up ahead of Labour for overall second place in Scotland, with the race going down to the wire.

    In many other seats the Tories have doubled their vote share – largely at the expense of previously dominant Labour.

    Ms Davidson had been expected to be elected by the regional “top-up” list, which the Tories have previously relied on to win Members of the Scottish Parliament.

    Visibly ecstatic, she told the election count in Edinburgh’s Highland Hall that voters were “sending a message” to the SNP – who are still expected to win an overwhelming victory and form the next government.

    "I feel ready personally, I feel ready to serve as the leader of the official opposition, ready to take on Nicola Sturgeon," she said.

    "I think that we'll have a team behind me that can make me confident that we can do a good job.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7015991.html

    As of now, some speculation whether the SNP will win an overall majority (the system makes it hard to do so). Will post the full results later.

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    What does it prove other than Scotland is still full of idiotic socialists?

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    Scottish Parliament, the final result:
    SNP: 63 MSPs (-6)
    CON: 31 (+16)
    LAB: 24 (-13)
    GRN: 6 (+4)
    LDEM: 5 (-)

    constituency
    SNP: 46.5% (+1.1)
    LAB: 22.6% (-9.2)
    CON: 22.0% (+8.1)
    LDEM: 7.8% (-0.1)

    list
    SNP: 41.7% (-2.3)
    CON: 22.9% (+10.6)
    LAB: 19.1% (-7.2)
    GRN: 6.6% (+2.2)
    LDEM: 5.2% (-)
    UKIP: 2.0% (+1.1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by renownedwolf View Post
    What does it prove other than Scotland is still full of idiotic socialists?
    It may be, but if the SNP pulls this off, your reading the text of a soon to be Scottish citizen.

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    THE ODDS of an independent Scotland have taken a nosedive after the SNP lost their majority at Holyrood in the election, according to bookmaker Ladbrokes.

    It comes despite there still being a majority of pro-independence MSPs in the the new-look Parliament with a significant tranche of seven Greens who also support Scotland leaving the UK.

    The 63 SNP MSPs and six Greens could combine to pass another referendum vote at Holyrood - although control over the constitution lies with Westminster.

    But Ms Sturgeon’s failure to land another majority has seen the price of a vote for separation before 2020 taking a big hit, out from 4/1 to 10/1.

    On a night of constituency shocks, the biggest winner was Tory leader Ruth Davidson, who had been available at 6/1 to win her Edinburgh Central seat.

    A clamour from punters to back her to be next UK Tory leader saw her odds cut from 50/1 into 33/1. The Tories had been 5/4 outsiders to beat Labour into second place overall.
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/holyroo...ease-1-4120812

    Another reason there won't be an indyref 2 anytime soon - Sturgeon has no formal power to call a referendum. Even if Brexit happens, Westminster can just ignore Scotland for a while. Not that I think Brexit would lead to indy, especially without the oil revenue.

    The Union strikes back:

    Nicola Sturgeon has her mandate but it is a smaller, feebler, mandate than almost everyone thought likely as recently as 18 hours ago. The SNP remains the natural party of government in Scotland – a position it is unlikely to relinquish for the foreseeable future – but it no longer enjoys an overall majority at Holyrood. The nationalist advance, seemingly all-powerful and unstoppable, has not been stopped but it has been checked.

    Now you could hardly call winning almost half the seats in a system expressly designed to make a majority all but impossible except in the most freakish circumstances a disappointing result. And, indeed, the SNP share of the vote increased by a couple of points on 2011. And yet this remarkable result is nonetheless tinged with a mild degree of disappointment for the SNP. It was very, very good but it was not the greatness to which the party has been accustomed and which it – or at least its supporters – expected again last night.

    Whereas five years ago everything fell into place for the nationalists last night it did not. Last night everything fell into place for someone else: the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party.

    So let’s get this out the way now: in January I wrote an article for this paper explaining that while Everyone Loves Ruth Davidson, No-One will Vote for Her. Well I was half-right.

    Actually, at the time that seemed like a sensible piece of expectation-lowering. (Though I would say that wouldn’t I? Yes I would.) The stars were aligned for the Tories but it still seemed a leap of faith too far to think they really might replace Labour as the second largest party at Holyrood.

    Hell, yesterday morning one Tory strategist reckoned doing so was only an even money bet and as late as 4pm one senior Tory told me that the party was more likely to win one constituency seat than four. No-one, nowhere, thought the Tories would win seven. Galloway and West Dumfries had been written off. Edinburgh Central was a pipe dream. Aberdeenshire West wasn’t even a pipe dream.

    True, this result needs to be placed in some perspective. It takes the Tories back to where they were in 1992. But 1992 was a long time ago, long enough for several SNP generations in fact. And since then the Tories have limped from calamity to disappointment to further calamity. In 2011 they won 12.5% of the list vote and they began this election campaign 22 seats behind Labour. 22. Now they are seven ahead.

    It helped that they had a message that was as clear as it was intuitively plausible. The Tories are the last keepers of the old Unionist religion. If that matters to you – and it does matter to a million or more Scots – they were the logical repository for your vote. But you didn’t have to be a true-blue dyed-in-the-wool Tory to vote for Ruth Davidson. You just needed to think it was time someone – any-bloody-one – stood up to the SNP and reminded them that having the support of half the country does not entitle them to speak for the whole country.
    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05...-strikes-back/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammish View Post
    It may be, but if the SNP pulls this off, your reading the text of a soon to be Scottish citizen.
    2. The Scottish National Party (SNP) has been boasting about their ability to extract concessions from the UK government if they should hold the balance of power in Westminster after the forthcoming general election.[1] One very important area of disagreement is immigration where the SNP has long advocated a more open policy as being in Scotland’s best interests.[2] This paper examines their proposals and considers the impact on England which, at present, receives about 90% of net foreign migration.
    You'll have a multicultural 'utopia' to look forward to

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    Scots under the SNP being 'independent' is a joke they'd go straight cap in hand, just like the Welsh would under Plaid, to the EU and become even more a pair of vassal states to be milked, a pair with absolutely no power at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest_Dweller View Post
    You'll have a multicultural 'utopia' to look forward to
    I didn't say I'd be moving there, just that I'd apply for citizenship as spelled out by their party platform.

    In my opinion, having dual citizenship may be handy in the future the way things are going.

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    I think the SNP's dream is to make Scotland even more diverse and left-wing than Sweden.

    The collapse of Labour is pretty funny to watch. It's just a shame nobody good is around to take over.

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    I'll disclose that I voted SNP for my constituency (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) and Conservative for the region (Highlands and Islands). I'm what you'd call a "Tartan Tory". As much as I desire independence, my vision of independence is highly different from that of the cosmopolitan, modernist SNP, so I hope a strong opposition will mitigate their less savoury policies, like the Named Person nonsense they're trying to introduce.

    Unfortunately, even the Scottish Conservative Party has lost its course, with a sexual deviant for a leader, and barely any pro-life and anti-secularist voices.

    Before anyone suggests UKIP - I'm sorry, no, they're the opposite extreme; a bunch of incompetent buffoons who just parrot a popular right-wing message in order to gain votes but have pretty much no solid understanding of anything whatsoever. And their "libertarian" stances on various issues are odious.

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