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    Children Asked to Think of Named Person As ‘Head Gardener’

    Just creepy.

    The SNP’s state guardian scheme has come under fresh attack after it emerged that children have been asked to think of their named person as the “head gardener”.

    The analogy has come to light in a document created for the Children’s Parliament when the controversial legislation was being considered in 2012.

    During workshops with 107 youngsters aged between nine and 12, the document related how they were encouraged to imagine Scotland as a garden, with each child as a plant growing within it.

    Children were told “all the adults in their lives” were “gardeners” while the named person would have overarching responsibility and be considered “Head Gardener”.

    Campaigners against the legislation claimed the description of the named person as the head gardener was another sign that the scheme would diminish the role of parents.

    Referring to the named person scheme, the document said: “This was a complex idea for the children (aged nine to 12) to consider but going along with our Scotland as a garden theme the children discussed the role of Gardeners (all the adults in their lives) and the job of Head Gardener (the Named Person). Children identified that all adults – family members and professional people – have and share equally a duty to make sure all children are healthy, happy and safe. The overarching requirement of a Named Person (their Head Gardener) would be that this person’s key role is to keep children safe and to ensure good communication between people who are interested in the child. “

    The “head gardener” concept was also referred to by the Scottish Government in its summary of children’s responses to the Bill.

    Simon Calvert, spokesman for No to Named Persons (NO2NP), said: “We need to know if the First Minister endorses this description of Named Persons as ‘head gardener’ in the lives of Scotland’s children.

    “If that is Government policy then the mums and dads of more than a million children are in danger of being reduced to tattie howkers in their own homes. Is that really the legacy Nicola Sturgeon wants to leave behind? When you speak to ordinary folk about the scheme, their concerns often boil down to one central point: it undermines the role of parents.”

    A SNP spokesman said: “The named person policy is aimed at protecting children’s well-being. It is about supporting, not diminishing, the role of parents. The policy is widely supported by leading children’s charities and welfare organisations, as well as by the Scottish Police Federation, who say it will ‘help keep children safer’ – and has also been upheld by the highest court in Scotland.”
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...ener-1-4114148

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    Sounds like some kind of dystopian 70s sci fi flick. A mixture of Logan's Run and Silent Running!

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    Of course everyone is against child abuse. So having done that I will now write about is stated in this article. First, who/what is this 'head gardener'/named person? And what are his tasks and powers and of course restrictions. Two,the way it is written seem to suggest that parents are not the core part of the their children's upbringing, but (what I presume to be) a government worker.
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    Here's an explanation from the "No to Named Persons" campaign:

    THE NAMED PERSON SCHEME

    WHAT IS IT?

    The Scottish Parliament has passed legislation to appoint a ‘Named Person’ for every child in Scotland.

    This is a state official tasked with looking after a child’s “wellbeing”, that is, their “happiness”. This state guardian will be put in place regardless of whether or not children or parents wish to have one and regardless of whether there is any need for state intervention.

    Confusingly, there are already Named Person pilot schemes in operation across Scotland, but the legislation does not actually come into force until August 2016.

    WHAT WILL A ‘NAMED PERSON’ DO?

    Named Persons are given some of the duties of parents. A Government-funded leaflet said this includes having to check if children get a say in how their room is decorated and what they watch on TV.

    A Named Person will have the power to speak to a child, including about very personal issues, and provide information or advice – all without requiring parental consent.

    TEN REASONS WHY THIS IS A PROBLEM

    1. It undermines parents and permits the state unlimited access to pry into the privacy of families in their homes.
    2. The Government keeps saying there’s no need for families to use the Named Person but this is disingenuous. The scheme is compulsory. Every child will have a Named Person by law. They will have power to access confidential data on the family, and to talk to a child without their parents agreeing with what they say.
    3. It’s already extremely difficult to protect vulnerable children with the resources available. The Scottish Government is stretching those resources even further by creating a scheme that applies to all children regardless of need.
    4. Appointing a Named Person with legal responsibilities for every child will divert resources away from vulnerable children. Time spent filling in forms for dozens of children at no risk is time that could be better spent on those children in need of help.
    5. One piece of Government guidance says a Named Person has “responsibility for overall monitoring of the child’s wellbeing and outcomes”. This is the role of a parent.
    6. Because of the pressure on them, Named Persons will be forced to act defensively, reporting trivial or irrelevant family issues to social services. This creates more work for social workers who will have to needlessly follow up these families, cheating vulnerable children of the resources that they need.
    7. The Named Person is legally responsible for monitoring the wellbeing of every child. Official guidance says “wellbeing is another word for happiness”. How can the state monitor the happiness of every child?
    8. Teachers are busy enough without becoming a Named Person responsible for monitoring hundreds of children and handling the large amounts of confidential data sent to them by all the other agencies involved in the child’s life.
    9. These plans could result in children having their privacy invaded over personal issues and could lead to them shunning helplines and advisory services.
    10. The current law says social services can intervene where a child is at risk of significant harm. But Named Persons can intervene merely where there are concerns about a child's "wellbeing" or "happiness".
    http://no2np.org/named-person/

    Everybody wants to prevent child abuse, but this is well over the top. It assumes the state, not the parent, is the owner of the child, thereby appointing an additional guardian to look after the kid. It's almost like parents are seen as guilty until proven innocent, not the other way round.

    The SNP is a Blairite party. Very Statist and controlling of people's lives. They also introduced a minimum alcohol pricing but I recall that was struck down by the EU.

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    The idea of a state-appointed person to look after some of the child's well-being of course isn't all that bad in essence: Provided it's a safe & healthy environment and system to begin with, of course.

    If this was 1934 and I was a simple steel factory worker working long daily shifts but a staunch NSDAP supporter, I wouldn't have a problem leaving my kids to daily education in matters of outlook and Weltanschauung to the local Hitlerjugend corps. Of course, standard upbring is parental things, but there are some things I might, as a simple man, not be able to bring across as well as those more thoughtful.

    Naturally, this type of idea in a liberal-left social-democrat state is nutters, though. For all I know, the government's Named Person for my child could be some liberal, gay, drug-headed, paedophile social-worker. My child wouldn't be let anywhere near such a creature.

    The type of society we have in today's Europe isn't one based on mutual trust, let alone any type of healthy folk collective. As such, the best one can do, is to keep one's children as far away as possible from state intervention, and schemes even such as home-schooling become an attractive option.
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    It's just yet more meddling with God's sacred order of things, as I see it. It's a travesty that certain children have scum for parents who would defile them, but the solution to that isn't to think that we can come up with a better idea than parenthood and the nuclear family when those things were literally invented by an all-knowing, all-wise creator. Whatever marginal good this may do, it will be far outweighed by the damage it will do to the natural social order.

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