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    I'm with The Horned God and Englisc on this one. The only way is to change the government. Luckily there are alternatives in our political landscapes. Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Latvia, Lithuania are leading the way.

    But let's not forget about our Germanic Brothers in Norway, Denmark and Switzerland. Dutch and Flanderns have awakened, too, and here in Austria we have the historical chance of electing a right-wing President on next Sunday.
    France may follow in 2017 and even the Germans are slowly opening their eyes.

    And let's hope the British take their historical chance and vote in favor of Brexit which will then hopefully rip the damned EU apart for good.

    The winds of change are blowing - violence would probably ruin it.

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    A revolution means change. Change comes starting with ourselves. I'm not suggesting everybody go out and beat refugees on the street, but we should start by making out opinions about their presence known beyond a close group of peers or the internet.

    Here's something that bothers me: one of my sister went out with her group of peers, casual evening out, refugee topic came up. Some people at the table were saying that Germany should do more for them, it's our duty because of WWII and so on. Excuuuse me? Anyway, my sister, who has a different opinion, didn't say anything. She lamented all to me, and her reason for not saying anything was because one of the friends was at the table with a Turkish boyfriend. She didn't want to offend him or start an argument.

    And this is our biggest mistake: Germanic people are too nice, too polite to say what we think. Because we, or a friend of us, knows a nice refugee, or someone who knows a nice refugee, and we don't want to offend them. Now imagine if every one of us spoke up. Sure, on a personal level we can't change immigration policy. But we can make it known to the refugees, we don't welcome them with open arms in our countries, on our continents.

    If Germanic people gather that much courage to speak up, then going to a demonstration becomes easier, writing to our politicians also becomes easier, and so on. We start with cleaning up our own attitude and then it's just a question of numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irminson View Post
    The winds of change are blowing - violence would probably ruin it.
    Agreed. As soon as you use violence you hand political ammunition to your enemies. Violent right wing activists are held up in the media and the education system as examples to by pilloried.

    Then when ever anyone in a political speech or talk show expresses a view that is even slightly anti-immigration, they are immediately compared to some shaven headed thug kicking over a Muslim woman's pram or throwing a brick through the window a Halal butcher. "Oh, you hold the same views as that skin-head do you" etc. It's not usually stated as bluntly as that, but it's implied and that's often enough to sway the audience.

    Rational anti-immigration arguments based on conservative not racialist thinking and delivered articulately by individuals of impeccable character is the only way our views will persuade the mainstream.

    These people are finally beginning to emerge now, but every incidence of right wing violence only makes their task harder.
    Close observation may result in feelings of horror, wonder and awe at world you find yourself inhabiting.

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    This ---->


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    Quote Originally Posted by Englisc View Post
    Please don't adopt false and arrogant Roman-Greek misconceptions and stereotypes about Germanics, Celts and Slavs. We were never 'Barbarians' and always part of the European civilization. Our untamed, unique cultures were more advanced than the snobish, weak Roman storytellers wanted them to be told and brought forth to the next generations.

    To suggest that there was only civilization under Roman law is misleading. In many aspects old Germanic or Celtic laws were more humane and fair than Roman imperialism.

    And when they messed with us, we sacked them! The proper response to Islamic insolence is imminent and yet to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    A revolution means change. Change comes starting with ourselves. I'm not suggesting everybody go out and beat refugees on the street, but we should start by making out opinions about their presence known beyond a close group of peers or the internet.

    Here's something that bothers me: one of my sister went out with her group of peers, casual evening out, refugee topic came up. Some people at the table were saying that Germany should do more for them, it's our duty because of WWII and so on. Excuuuse me? Anyway, my sister, who has a different opinion, didn't say anything. She lamented all to me, and her reason for not saying anything was because one of the friends was at the table with a Turkish boyfriend. She didn't want to offend him or start an argument.

    And this is our biggest mistake: Germanic people are too nice, too polite to say what we think. Because we, or a friend of us, knows a nice refugee, or someone who knows a nice refugee, and we don't want to offend them. Now imagine if every one of us spoke up. Sure, on a personal level we can't change immigration policy. But we can make it known to the refugees, we don't welcome them with open arms in our countries, on our continents.

    If Germanic people gather that much courage to speak up, then going to a demonstration becomes easier, writing to our politicians also becomes easier, and so on. We start with cleaning up our own attitude and then it's just a question of numbers.
    Englisc tries to take my words to the extreme and label that as my position. That is an absurd argument---good debating through.

    The Horned God and Irminson are getting exactly the Europe they deserve.

    Baerin makes good points and this is what should be done BUT these actions should and can only be made effective with the underlying threat, yes threat, of violence or some sort of social action causing the current order insurmountable problems.

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    All “Asylum Seekers” in EU are Fake

    The recent admission by the European Union (EU) executive body that 40 percent of all “refugees” who invaded Europe last year have “no chance” of qualifying for asylum, ignores the EU’s own rules which clearly state that none have any right to asylum at all.

    As reported in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung, a “senior European Commission official” recently admitted that “40 percent of the migrants who recently entered via the Balkans route have no realistic prospect of asylum or refugee status in the European Union.”

    While this admission is dramatic, it implies that 60 percent of the invaders do have a valid claim to asylum in Europe—something which is completely untrue.

    In fact, they all have broken the EU’s own rules governing refugees, which specifically incorporate the legal principle known as the “first country of asylum”—a rule which says that “refugees” do not have the right to apply for asylum from a country in which they are already safe.

    Contrary to liberal claims that there is no legal basis for the principle of “first country of asylum,” this concept is in fact written into the EU’s own rules, specifically the Asylum Procedures Directive (Directive 2005/85/EC of December 1, 2005).

    Article 26 of this Asylum Procedures Directive reads as follows:

    The concept of first country of asylum

    A country can be considered to be a first country of asylum for a particular applicant for asylum if:

    (a) s/he has been recognised in that country as a refugee and s/he can still avail him/herself of that protection; or

    (b) s/he otherwise enjoys sufficient protection in that country, including benefiting from the principle of non-refoulement;

    provided that s/he will be re-admitted to that country.

    In other words, a “refugee” coming from a country in which they have already been granted refuge, and where they are not threatened with expulsion back to their country of origin, falls under Article 26 of the EU’s Asylum Procedures Directive.

    (“Non-refoulement” is the legal term for the principle in international law which forbids the rendering of a true victim of persecution to his or her persecutor.)

    This Article 26 has been written into all EU Member State legislation in one form or another, and specifically in Germany, has been incorporated into law under Article 29 of that country’s Asylum Procedure Act, paragraph 27, which reads as follows:

    Section 27

    Safety elsewhere from persecution

    (1) A foreigner who was already safe from political persecution in another third country shall not be granted asylum status.

    (2) If the foreigner holds a travel document issued by a safe third country (Section 26a) or by another third country pursuant to the Convention related to the status of refugees, it shall be presumed that he was safe from political persecution in that country.

    (3) If before entering the federal territory, a foreigner lived for more than three months in another third country where he is not threatened by political persecution, it shall be presumed that he was safe there from political persecution. This shall not apply if the foreigner provides plausible evidence that deportation to another country where he is threatened by political persecution could not be ruled out with reasonable certainty.

    In other words, every single “refugee,”—even those fleeing from Syria—who has entered Europe via the Balkans route from Turkey, has left that country (Turkey) which has already granted them asylum and safety.

    As such, EU and German law specifically forbids them from qualifying for asylum in Europe.

    These same rules apply to all the nonwhite invaders who have crossed the Mediterranean Sea to Italy and Spain. All have left “safe” countries where they were in no danger of being deported back, even if they had come from a “war zone” (which most of them have not).

    The EU’s rules are thus very clear and explicit: there are no “legal asylum seekers” at all in Europe. Every last one of them has broken international and EU law.

    The actions of the Merkel regime, and all other European governments which have opened Europe’s doors to this invasion, have placed them clearly outside and above the law.

    All these governments are therefore acting illegally, and by breaking the law, they have now set the standard by which they can be combatted.
    http://newobserveronline.com/all-asy...n-eu-are-fake/

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    Why don't people get up and fight? Because they don't want to lose what little they do have if not enough people stand with them. The tipping point for success is 3.5% of the population - verified political science here. You will most likely ruin your immediate circumstances if that threshold isn't met.

    Rather than harassing non-whites, it is much more strategic to pour all efforts into convincing fellow whites and luckily for Europe that is finally gaining some traction while they still have racial domination.

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    We've got to be smart and composed enough to realize that mainstream society can make our lives very difficult if we lash out at it when we're not yet strong enough to do so. I truly believe we will get there but, until that time comes, we have to be careful and hide in plain sight, so to speak. Anything else is akin to suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonCeorl View Post
    We've got to be smart and composed enough to realize that mainstream society can make our lives very difficult if we lash out at it when we're not yet strong enough to do so. I truly believe we will get there but, until that time comes, we have to be careful and hide in plain sight, so to speak. Anything else is akin to suicide.
    Indeed.

    Live a constructive, not too isolated life and vote for the populist anti-immigrationists, wherever you are!

    Do not waste time on irrelevant issues like their position on fastfood or Israel or gay rights. Once we reestablish control over our countries, we'll be having plenty of time to bicker about the details.

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