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    For most of this time frame the Baltic Sea did not exist. So were people living between modern Sweden and Finland? They must have been.

    The Sea Hunters I am familiar with were mostly eating shell fish and trading with the hunters were they not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    For most of this time frame the Baltic Sea did not exist. So were people living between modern Sweden and Finland? They must have been.
    Uhm, aren't the Baltic people a break-away of the Slavs? I've seen a graphical tree where the Balts split from the Slavic branch some thousand years ago. Their languages 'Lithuanian' and 'Latvian' are related with Slavic languages, not with Germanic-, Celtic- or Romance languages. 'Estonian' is different, it's deeply related with Finnic. Estonians are no Baltic people but Finno-Ugric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leliana View Post
    Uhm, aren't the Baltic people a break-away of the Slavs? I've seen a graphical tree where the Balts split from the Slavic branch some thousand years ago. Their languages 'Lithuanian' and 'Latvian' are related with Slavic languages, not with Germanic-, Celtic- or Romance languages. 'Estonian' is different, it's deeply related with Finnic. Estonians are no Baltic people but Finno-Ugric.
    To me the Baltic is not the Ur-Germanische Heimat but the region north of the Black Sea just where linguists and now geneticists put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    To me the Baltic is not the Ur-Germanische Heimat but the region north of the Black Sea just where linguists and now geneticists put it.
    Though Baltic has not a satem shift its only a bit closer to Slavic as North Germanic is to West Germanic. Balto-Slavic is closest I remember to Indo-Iranian.

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