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    what do the stones say? Has anybody done a accurate translation?

    Do people find it a bit odd that these stones only appear in areas where Scandinavian people settled in the 19Th century. Perhaps they made them from memory of rune stones in their home countries? Maybe they made them to justify that this is now their homeland. Most importantly we have to face the facts that people were just as educated in the 19Th century about their passions as people are today.

    Yes, it would be very cool if they were real, but I just don't buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    what do the stones say? Has anybody done a accurate translation?

    Do people find it a bit odd that these stones only appear in areas where Scandinavian people settled in the 19Th century. Perhaps they made them from memory of rune stones in their home countries? Maybe they made them to justify that this is now their homeland. Most importantly we have to face the facts that people were just as educated in the 19Th century about their passions as people are today.

    Yes, it would be very cool if they were real, but I just don't buy it.
    There is. It says, from memory, that several Swedes and Goths traveled to the New World and it gives the time it took. It says there was a fight (presumably with the Indians) and several men were killed.

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    Not sure what to make of Fomenko and those Russians who claim all of history as we know it is a fraud ('Charlemage never existed, he's an invention of medieval monks', 'Christ only died a 1000 years ago and the crusades followed soon afterwards', etc.)- Russia is the world capital of conspiracy theories.

    But there are dozens of interesting sites across N.E. America pertaining either to the Norsemen or the the knights templar or templars coming from the Nordic countries , their origins were never fully explained but there are compelling scientific arguments which speak in favor of their authenticity. The Kensington runestone is only one piece of the puzzle, in the immediate vicinity there are other runestones, graffiti and structures. Even that sketchy looking Kensington runestone is the real deal, there's debate about the meaning of the runes, but historians simply don't know what to make of it.

    In the 19th century American papers used to print red herrings without writing follow-ups, it was sensationalist journalism - there are so many different tales, including one about a hidden, lost cave in the Grand Canyon, where tons of (ancient Egyptian) artefacts and gold are stashed. Completely fabricated, no doubt. Modern researchers concluded the professor who supposedly made the discovery never existed in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    There is. It says, from memory, that several Swedes and Goths traveled to the New World and it gives the time it took. It says there was a fight (presumably with the Indians) and several men were killed.
    Correction, this should have been Geats, not Goths. It also gave a time frame for the trip. Sorry for the error.

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    Is there proof that the Kensington stone is a hoax?

    Do you believe historians are honest people?

    there is also more what has been ignored and hidden by historians, like giant skulls where one still has the newspaper articles and the reports they were brought to the Smithonians who never claims they are there nor do they claim they don't have them.

    A degree in history for me stands on the same level as a degree in catholic religion. Its more about believe than about real science.

    That the dating done of all history in the 16th century is a nut job with many inconsistencies is provable. Most likely they don't teach that in History, they believe their authorities instead of their mind.

    That vikings have been in America before Columbus was also a hoax for any real historian, but what cannot be does not exist. Now there are more and more finds. the viking saga attest to it, and now also the places where they settled. Suddenly every historian claims they have been here before Columbus.

    And then there exists what never happened, like the Holocaust. All with the blessing of historians.


    Das Unmögliche

    Palmström, etwas schon an Jahren,
    wird an einer Straßenbeuge
    und von einem Kraftfahrzeuge
    überfahren.

    »Wie war« (spricht er, sich erhebend
    und entschlossen weiterlebend)
    »möglich, wie dies Unglück, ja-:
    daß es überhaupt geschah?

    Ist die Staatskunst anzuklagen
    in bezug auf Kraftfahrwagen?
    Gab die Polizeivorschrift
    hier dem Fahrer freie Trift?

    Oder war vielmehr verboten,
    hier Lebendige zu Toten
    umzuwandeln, - kurz und schlicht:
    Durfte hier der Kutscher nicht -?«

    Eingehüllt in feuchte Tücher,
    prüft er die Gesetzesbücher
    und ist alsobald im klaren:
    Wagen durften dort nicht fahren!

    Und er kommt zu dem Ergebnis:
    »Nur ein Traum war das Erlebnis.
    Weil«, so schließt er messerscharf,
    »nicht sein kann, was nicht sein darf!«
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    That the language comparison contains 15,000 words and not a few with which Elfriede dismissed the case, is exactly what Morgenstern described in his poem.

    15,000 similar words cannot be explained so they are ignored and one continues with his/her preaching.

    Ignorance is strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    Is there proof that the Kensington stone is a hoax?
    Yes.
    Do you believe historians are honest people?
    Some people are honest, some aren't. Trade doesn't define honesty.

    As far as Fomenko goes, he's a crazy man and I have never seen anyone actually give him credibility until now. Maybe you admire him because he's Russian. I was going to type more out in reply, but I didn't have the energy. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe, but doubtful.

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    Archaeology ascribes to being a science. In science it isn't what you believe, it is what you can prove. You can like poetry but poetry proves nothing. For the Kensington Rune Stone to be accepted as fact, someone is going to have to step up and prove it is pre-Columbian. This geologist Scott Wolter has made a TV reputation posing as an archaeologist, not a geologist. His geologic methods by which he dated this rune stone are his own, not those of geology. His method is subjective and relies on his experience and opinion, nothing which can be put into numbers and crunched. Proof is lacking and in that case nobody of good will can place his/her stamp of approval upon this.

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    History is under the wrath of politics, I don't think I have to prove that.

    Then what History is are political correct narratives. There is no conclusive proof of anything, beside that they found something.

    To proof the Kensington stone being pre-Columbian is the same as proving the Cologne Cathedral is medieval. There is no proof of both at all.

    How do you proof that the foundation stones of the cathedral are from medieval time (the claim is XII century). There is none. The oldest picture showing anything about the Cologne Cathedral is from 1830 or so.

    The construction documentation shows it has been built in the 1800s, on a foundation supposedly going back to the 12th/13th century. It just says so and there is no proof of it at all.

    How do you proof that Charlemagne existed? Can you give me unrevertable proof of that?

    history is tales, narratives which are convenient to the ruling people.

    What is not convenient is rejected as hoax and what is convenient is approved without a shred of evidence.

    Yes, the Kensington stone maybe a hoax, it may also be originally made by vikings living in America before Columbus' arrival.

    Why it is found where Scandinavian lived? Might well be that Scandinavian tend to settle where the climate and area is similar to Scandinavia. That is why Scandinavians are mostly settled in the northern states and not in Texas. (and it is also the shortest sailing route)
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