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    University Student Violated 'Safe Space' by Putting Her Hand Up

    A student was almost kicked out of a meeting after she violated a 'safe space' by raising her arm at Edinburgh University.

    Imogen Wilson wanted to make a point at Thursday's student council session when she was told off by officials.

    The vice-president for academic affairs at the university's Student Association was accused of failing disabled students by not responding to an open letter.

    She immediately raised her arm to disagree but was made the subject of a 'ludicrous' complaint and told not to make the gesture again.

    Imogen was also warned for shaking her head during the meeting as it again breached the 'safe space' which is part of the university's Student Association rules.

    She told The Huffington Post: '...I raised my arms in disagreement, as we had contacted the writers of the letter and tried hard to organise a meeting. It was for that reason that a safe space complaint was made.'

    Student Association policy says that council members should be respectful and considerate.

    Section 6c of the safe space policy is defined as: 'Refraining from hand gestures which denote disagreement or in any other way indicating disagreement with a point or points being made. Disagreements should only be evident through the normal course of debate.'

    A vote took place to decide whether Imogen should be removed from the meeting after she was accused of breaking the rules.
    he vote was in her favour: with 18 people for removal and 33 supporting her staying.

    Imogen added: 'I completely understand the importance of our safe space policy, and will defend it to the ground, but I did not think that was fair, and had it gone further I would have either left or argued against it.'

    One student, a fourth-year, who wished to remain anonymous, said the complaint was 'ludicrous' and was an 'abuse of the entire intent of safe space'.

    'We were having one of the most emotionally tense councils of the year, with the vote on the BDS [The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions] movement and people speaking who live in Palestine or are Israeli on both sides of the issue.

    'There was ample risk of there being an actual safe space issue taking place—an anti-semitic or Islamophobic comment for instance—but the whole debate was actually remarkably civil despite how emotional it was.'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz44uSBRhTz
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    Jeepers. That's Edinburgh University ladies and gentlemen! One of the foremost institutions of learning in the UK. And it's not now possible to show disagreement during a debate there by raising ones hand, in case some wallflower is "triggered" by the gesture?

    Has it ever occurred to the geniuses beind this policy that if an individual is so mentally unstable that a raised hand would traumatise them that perhaps they are not suited to the cut and thrust of university debate? I mean who knows what they will find in the world beyond their college gates? Some one might even call them a rude name...

    The roll of a universtiy is to prepare students to take up positions of some importance in society. Jobs like teachers, solicitor's, physicians, managers etc. It's not the roll of a university to molly coddle full-grown infants.

    How in the name of god is someone going to for example, practice law, if they are sent into a fit of hyperventilation the first time the prosecution raises their hand to make an objection to their argument? How long would the career of a lawyer with so little bottle last?

    It's laughable but at the same time worrying that so called "civilised thought" seems to have led the students of Edinburgh University into such a cul de sac. They seem to be caught firmly in the jaws of regressive left. I hope there's a push-back soon.
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    So, the safe space phenomena starts to spread to this side of the Atlantic.

    But the thing I noticed most in this article was this :

    Section 6c of the safe space policy is defined as: 'Refraining from hand gestures which denote disagreement or in any other way indicating disagreement with a point or points being made. Disagreements should only be evident through the normal course of debate.'
    How does disagreement become evident during the course of the debate if one is not allowed to any indicate that one disagrees with point(s) being made. Because as soon as on starts to reason against said statement(s) one is indicating disagreement and is therefore in violation of the safe space policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GroeneWolf View Post
    How does disagreement become evident during the course of the debate if one is not allowed to any indicate that one disagrees with point(s) being made. Because as soon as on starts to reason against said statement(s) one is indicating disagreement and is therefore in violation of the safe space policy.
    Don't try to look for sense in it. There isn't any. It is a completely absurd policy. It's an example of how deranged sub-cultures can become in their thinking when they do not allow their sacred cows to be challenged. The sacred cow in this case is the unquestioned status of the victim.

    For pity sake, "The university where no one was allowed to disagree with anyone else". It's like a story out of Aesop's fables or Gulliver's travels. It wouldn't be out of place alongside the story of "The war of the little enders and the big enders".
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horned God View Post
    Don't try to look for sense in it. There isn't any. It is a completely absurd policy. It's an example of how deranged sub-cultures can become in their thinking when they do not allow their sacred cows to be challenged. The sacred cow in this case is the unquestioned status of the victim.
    And ironically you have made sense of it. Alto I more see it as a symptom of declining standards in Western Institutions of Higher Learning. And the loss of Academic freedom in those same places. Like you wrote yourself it is a sign of the growing totalitarianism of those people that is on display here.
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    Anglo-Saxons are forbidden the same level of racial consciousness of other groups (even amongst Whites).

    While our many accomplishments are forgotten, there is no end of blaming Anglo-Saxons for the problems and inadequacies of the world (White & non-white alike).

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