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    American Holocaust, 100,000,000 Dead, and the Truth of Native Americans Before the Genocide

    The Truth of Native Americans Before the Genocide

    The Truth of Native Americans Before the Genocide


    What do you think about this RT broadcast?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    The Truth of Native Americans Before the Genocide

    The Truth of Native Americans Before the Genocide


    What do you think about this RT broadcast?
    Maybe the Russians ought to come clean on the natives they genocides in, say, Siberia? Or the millions the commies butchered?

    And as to 100,000,000.. There weren't even that injuns many in North and South America combined when Columbus arrived. Sounds an awful lot like the 100,000,000 negros that supposedly perished during the Jew-financed African slave trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    And as to 100,000,000.. There weren’t even that injuns many in North and South America combined when Columbus arrived.
    Yes, it does. Even in view of the fact that the number of Indians in pre-Columbus times is difficult to establish. But over generations and centuries, one could actually kill a number of people which is larger than the total population, theoretically even without affecting its size all too much — if one always spares (most of) the children.

    In 1991, a committee of historians established the number of Soviet victims (1917-1989) to be ~56 millions. This can also only work over generations, because the population of the Soviet Union did not shrink by this number at any time.
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    Those numbers are way overestimated.

    There were likely millions of Amerindians living in what became the US in the early second millennium. There were some fairly large towns in the Mississippi Basin, prosperous communities (by early agricultural civilization standards) in the Southwest and Pacific Coast regions. But these civilizations (Mississippian, Anazasi, etc...) had collapsed by the time Columbus sailed in 1492. No one knows why but likely they couldn't with stand climate change - this was the same time Europe was going through a cooling period and dealing with the Plague.

    European diseases took their toll but that was unintentional. Smallpox, measles and whatnot made their way inland from the Gulf of Mexico before English settlement had started leading to more population declines. There were about 800k Amerindians in the Contiguous (48) United States in 1607.

    The Amerindians themselves could be counted on to keep their own numbers in control. They were constantly killing and enslaving one another. The Beaver War between the Huron and the Iroquois left what is now Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, south and east of the Illinois River, a depopulated hunting ground outside of a few French villages in the Western part. It wasn't until the British gained control of the region after the French and Indian War (Seven Years War in Europe) that Indians, like the Lenape who had be displaced from the Delaware Valley, stated moving into the area. The Cherokees conducted raiding parties on the tribes of the Southeast, killing as many adult males as possible and taking the women and children to Charlestown to be shipped off to the West Indies as slaves. All of Kentucky and Tennessee became Cherokee hunting grounds.

    As for Mexico.... Mexico had trouble feeding itself, without grain imports, in the 1940s when its population was approaching 25 million. It is hard to see how it could have been any higher before Columbus. The Mexican peasants of the 1940s likely had better tools then their Aztec ancestors. Ten million or less is likely a reasonable estimation for Mexico's population in 1492, though it might have been higher a few centuries earlier. The Aztecs settled on the remains of a civilization that had collapsed before their arrival in the Valley of Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    What do you think about this RT broadcast?
    It's nothing but anti-white propaganda meant to promote white genocide.

    There were never 100 million injuns here at one time. Think about it... they were in the stone age. They were hunter-gatherers. The USA at the time of its founding had about 3 million inhabitants. These were 18th century Europeans with firearms and advanced farming techniques. The population did not exceed 100 million until after 1910... well after the industrial revolution had enabled us to support such a population.

    While the Aztecs did have cities and a higher civilization (though they were still in the STONE AGE,) there is no way this civilization could have supported such a huge population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorburn View Post
    Yes, it does. Even in view of the fact that the number of Indians in pre-Columbus times is difficult to establish. But over generations and centuries, one could actually kill a number of people which is larger than the total population, theoretically even without affecting its size all too much — if one always spares (most of) the children.

    In 1991, a committee of historians established the number of Soviet victims (1917-1989) to be ~56 millions. This can also only work over generations, because the population of the Soviet Union did not shrink by this number at any time.
    100,000,000 redmen in the Americas is a very liberal estimate. Think of it: outside of the large, urbanized civilizations that could engage in widespread, planned agriculture like the Aztecs or Incas they existed as hunters and gatherers for the most part. Where are the logistics to support 100,000,000- especially in North America where the only fairly advanced injuns were the Iroquois/proto-Iroquois? The Mound Builders were long gone by then.

    Jewipedia says this:

    'Most scholars writing at the end of the 19th century estimated the pre-Columbian population as low as 10 million; by the end of the 20th century most scholars gravitate to a middle estimate of around 50 million, with some historians arguing for 100 million or more'

    Lowball: 10 mil. Highball: 100+ mil. Median: 50 mil.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popula...f_the_Americas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    100,000,000 redmen in the Americas is a very liberal estimate.
    No, it's a deliberate lie, aimed at accusing us of a monstrous genocide, and justifying whatever they want to do to White Americans as a consequence. This is a setup. Soon enough, they might enact laws to prohibit "Native American Genocide Denial" or some such nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    No, it's a deliberate lie, aimed at accusing us of a monstrous genocide, and justifying whatever they want to do to White Americans as a consequence. This is a setup. Soon enough, they might enact laws to prohibit "Native American Genocide Denial" or some such nonsense.
    That's more or less how I feel; the genocides of, say, commies against Slavs in Russia or muzzies against Indians in India (THIS is a story unto itself) are never mentioned because commies, muzzies, etc. are protected groups- whereas if it's: white, Christian, European, etc. it's automatically considered to be the guilty party.
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    I don't think there were 100,000,000 people in Europe at that time and that was comparably densely populated.

    To see some proof of this number would help. But as there was none from the Holocaust I doubt there are some of the Amerindian genocide.

    That there was massive killing is something noone would deny. Diseases took their toll, as well as infighting.

    Beside that many amerindian tribes were of european descend. The Inka are known to be white, and many other whites tribes are known too.

    The northern tribes spoke an IE language which most likely came from european settlers in times before Columbus.

    The Kennewick man is proof that there have been white people in the US and most likely before the mongolic invasion. That the mongolian invaders killed/genocided whites is also obvious.

    Many northern Amerindian have aryan features. And there have been white tribes. Samuel Champlain sailed down the St. Lorenz river and reports to have met a white tribe. There has been another white tribe in Florida as reported by one viking traveller.
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    Injuns got drunk on rum, whiskey, etc. that jew-owned distilleries sold to them. From a certain point of view.. I doubt that the poor buggers could discern their own native beliefs from those of the whites.
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