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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindig_og_stoisk View Post
    It is a funny coincidence, but the editorial in Jyllandsposten today specifically addresses the fact that most media outlets initially tried to avoid referring to culture and ethnicity in their coverage. The editorial is called "Voldskultur" (violence culture) and I have translated a few bits:







    http://jyllands-posten.dk/opinion/le...cle4815000.ece

    It is of course only one good editorial among an entire load of poor journalism and evasive coverage. But at least the problem gets some coverage in the mainstream media.
    So the Danish press are pracitising self-censorship and so refraining from references mentioning ethnicity, nationality, or culture of those that engage in criminal violence in Denmark "in keeping with a general tendency to not offend anyone by speaking plainly". So once again we see another display of moral cowardice on the part of a northern European country's media. Another gutless capitulation to multiculturalism, multiracialism, and foreign criminal violence. Oh no, let's not offend criminally violent foreign scum. What will people think of us? I mean, really. What are the Europeans going to do? Lay down and die?

    This is where I admire East Asians. They do and say what they want and don't give a rat's arse who they offend. Their attitude is: If you're offended by what I say, baby, that's your problem.

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    Why am I not seeing this on the news in my country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Aesthete View Post
    Why am I not seeing this on the news in my country?
    Probably not big enough news, at least not yet. Nobody has died so far and the material damage is limited to the furniture and medical equipment of the hospital as well as about half a dozen police cars who have been burned down and had their tires slashed.

    How much European (and Danish) coverage do you usually get in Australian media?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingvaeonic
    So the Danish press are pracitising self-censorship {rant}
    As much as that rant usually hits the nail on the head, you're partly misjudging Danish media. Let's make no mistake, the big ones all roll over indeed not to offend anyone like everywhere else, but reading Danish newspapers is most of the times a refreshing experience, because they censor themselves the least of any national media I know. Stuff like the Voldskultur article are not so rare either. They're far from being as braindead as German media.





    Btw, the last time Denmark was in the news here was when they, "evil" as they were, reintroduced border controls, and our polytraitors even dared to call to boycot Denmark for vacation travels. Didnt work though, most people asked here said it's their right to control their borders and it wont keep them from going there for vacation either. But when there's no such "evilness" to report on from our direct neighboring countries they dont exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    As much as that rant usually hits the nail...
    Hardly a rant. The Danish press may not be as far gone in censoring themselves, or in government-imposed press censorship, as the German press, but they are still pretty far gone if they are even occasionally timidly refraining from naming the ethnicities and cultural backgrounds of alleged or convicted criminals that engage in criminal violence in Denmark so as not to offend alien racial groups.

    I don't say that the Danish press are alone in this practice, occasional or not. Indeed, I am quite sure self-censorship is also being practised here in Australia, which is of equal moral cowardice and a capitulation to the whole multicultural-multiracial ethos, a capitulation to the criminally violent elements of foreign communities and alien races in Australia, and a capitulation to those white multiculturalist-multiracialist Marxist fanatics.

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    Some good articles from the Danish press so far:

    Som abstracts:

    Punks from Vollsmose may lose handouts

    Social Democratic members from the city Council wants to remove handouts for any participant in the hospital attack...

    If you are fit enough to run around a hospital and wield clubs, then you are fit enough for job.

    The same method was employed last year when a group of men uploaded a video on Youtube showing them harassing and obstructing police officers working in Vollsmose. They ended up losing all their handouts.

    Jane Jegind, Liberal member of the city council, wants to go even further. She believes that the city should not offer education and job support to the respect-less punks. Instead Folketinget should introduce tougher prison penalties.

    Furthermore, she wants the municipality to remove child support for any parents whose children behave so outrageously.
    http://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/article4816648.ece

    Researcher: "It is not their own hospital that they are smashing"

    Mehmet Ümit Necef, lector and ph.d. at the University of Southern Denmark:

    "They do not feel that it is their own place. The well-educated Denmark has been telling them again and again that they are being discriminated and not treated properly. A lot of immigrants have taken this seriously and now feel as victims of Danish society."

    "When the chairman for the Council of Integration, Mahmoud Daoud, goes on TV to ask that the police will just do their job and stop discriminating, he clears the hospital raiders of their responsibility."

    He believes that this does more harm than good.

    When the boys believe that they are victims of a racist policy they feel no need to respect Danish society and participate in it.

    And this is turning them into walking time bombs.

    "They now have a fundamental victim mentality and many of them are waiting for an excuse to blow up. They have no self control. And that is why we have incidents like the hospital. They do not believe that they are responsible for the hospital- It is the hospital of the Danes, not theirs", he says.

    More trouble will occur if the Danes do not stop thinking that it is such a sad situation for immigrants.

    "The Danes are a bunch of hypocrites if the view must automatically be that the Danish society is being cruel towards the immigrants. No wonder that the immigrants will feel like victims", he says.
    http://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/kr...cle4815787.ece


    Again, at least parts of MSM is better than its reputation. I seriously doubt that this could get printed in a newspaper in any other European country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sindig_og_stoisk View Post
    Some good articles from the Danish press so far:

    Som abstracts:



    http://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/article4816648.ece



    http://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/kr...cle4815787.ece


    Again, at least parts of MSM is better than its reputation. I seriously doubt that this could get printed in a newspaper in any other European country.
    These are steps in the right direction. Only time will tell if all the measures proposed will be acted on. Cutting their social welfare permanently and harsher prison penalties ought to send the right message to this parasitic foreign vermin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingvaeonic
    These are steps in the right direction. Only time will tell if all the measures proposed will be acted on.
    Denmark did already take tough measures against immigrants, much to the dismay of the EU incl the EU threatening to sue them in the European Court for Human Rights because they refused to bow down before the multikult cow. Really Ing, Denmark is quite a bastion of common sense in a sea of stupidity and cowardice, as you called the madness correctly.

    And Sindig is right, articles like the ones above, and others I know, would maybe even lead to the crushing of that "evil racist newspaper" (wasnt there one in England that got wiped off a while ago?) in any other country, incl Oz.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ingvaeonic
    Cutting their social welfare permanently and harsher prison penalties ought to send the right message to this parasitic foreign vermin.
    This is quite a different question. Cutting of handouts and tougher penalties wont make them go home or stop new ones from coming.

    It is a decision that we Europeans must make at one point to say stop, enough, we dont want all that anymore. All this blubbering about cutting their welfare, being more tough with them and their misbehavior and whatnot wont change a damn thing. Only a loud and clear stop will do. This sort of ideas is the same sort of 'moral cowardice' in order to not offend them directly, but indirectly, generating tough conditions for them, at least that's the idea. But people who propose that go from a fluffy European standpoint. It wont work for most of the immigrants. Cut the welfare of one and he gets supported by the rest of his clan, where he'll live, probably even without registration, doing criminal stuff to get his hands on money etc.

    You see, the question we need to answer is whether we want them here, regardless of whether they're well integrated, have work, dont do criminal stuff, dont do drugs, dont leech on the welfare system, or whatever. There's no but, only a yes or no to this question. Dancing around the big white elefant in the room trying to ignore it wont change anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Denmark did already take tough measures against immigrants, much to the dismay of the EU incl the EU threatening to sue them in the European Court for Human Rights because they refused to bow down before the multikult cow. Really Ing, Denmark is quite a bastion of common sense in a sea of stupidity and cowardice, as you called the madness correctly.

    And Sindig is right, articles like the ones above, and others I know, would maybe even lead to the crushing of that "evil racist newspaper" (wasnt there one in England that got wiped off a while ago?) in any other country, incl Oz.
    If the EU has as a policy multiculturalism for member states, who is standing up to the EU? Isn't Denmark still a sovereign state? If Denmark threatened to abrogate EU legislation that establishes and propagates multiculturalism in EU member states and that is current law in Denmark, is there any Danish political party worthy of the name which is going to say (to the EU Parliament and the EU administrators/bureaucrats in Brussels), we are the ones who have to deal with the crime, the violence, and pay the social-welfare bill of these foreign parasitic crumbs, not you, and if we are not allowed a free hand in dealing with the situation within our own borders, we will abrogate any and all EU member-state legislation that imposes multiculturalism on us and which overrides Danish law so that we can deal with the problem ourselves and in our own way? When are any of the political parties in northern Europe going to grow a pair of balls and say NO! to the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    This is quite a different question. Cutting of handouts and tougher penalties wont make them go home or stop new ones from coming.

    It is a decision that we Europeans must make at one point to say stop, enough, we dont want all that anymore. All this blubbering about cutting their welfare, being more tough with them and their misbehavior and whatnot wont change a damn thing. Only a loud and clear stop will do. This sort of ideas is the same sort of 'moral cowardice' in order to not offend them directly, but indirectly, generating tough conditions for them, at least that's the idea. But people who propose that go from a fluffy European standpoint. It wont work for most of the immigrants. Cut the welfare of one and he gets supported by the rest of his clan, where he'll live, probably even without registration, doing criminal stuff to get his hands on money etc.

    You see, the question we need to answer is whether we want them here, regardless of whether they're well integrated, have work, dont do criminal stuff, dont do drugs, dont leech on the welfare system, or whatever. There's no but, only a yes or no to this question. Dancing around the big white elefant in the room trying to ignore it wont change anything.
    I'm not saying that cutting their welfare and imposing harsher prison penalties is going to get rid of them, or is a substitute for expelling them, I'm saying that doing that sends them a message that their behaviour will not be tolerated and that essentially they are not welcome in this country, in this instance, Denmark. The mass expulsions can come later when Europeans have finally had enough of the garbage from "foreign immigrants" they have been living with since the early '60s and are actually prepared to fight for the integrity and cohesion of their countries.

    Over and above that, your post is informative and insightful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingvaeonic View Post
    Why are these vermin even allowed to settle there? And why do the politicians of these countries not see what they are doing to their own countries and people? It is maddeningly frustrating.
    They are allowed to settle here simply because our ruling elite, the mainstream parties, are pro-multiculturalism and want them here. The media, that to a large extent controls public opinion and the reporting on current events, is run by cultural Marxists and multiculturalists.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ingvaeonic View Post
    "in keeping with a general tendency to not
    offend anyone by speaking plainly". So once again we see another display of moral cowardice on the part of a northern European country's media. Another gutless capitulation to multiculturalism,

    It is not a matter of cowardice on the part of the Scandinavian media when they don't inform us properly about immigrant crime -- it is a matter of furthering their own malicious political agenda.


    It is a deliberate, planned and ongoing censoring of things that tell you the truth about the terrible nation-wrecking consequences of the mainstream
    politics. On the other hand, anything that portrays immigrants and multiculturalism in a good light is usually given plenty of media exposure.

    The media has not "capitulated" to multiculturalism -- it is its very core.





    The infamous "Saltsjöbadsavtalet", the end of free media reporting in Sweden:


    "Lilla Saltsjöbadsavtalet is an alleged meeting which is claimed to have occurred at Saltsjöbaden on 21 March 1987, with participants from the "Swedish Journalist Association" (Svenska journalistklubben).

    In 2007 and 2008, information about the supposed meeting was revealed, where it was said that the participating journalists agreed to follow certain "recommendations":[1]


    Preferably positively assess and paraphrase Swedish citizens of foreign origin, particularly in the context of youth, sports and artistic activities.

    For events with an element of diverse cultures preferably interview and visually highlight participants of foreign origin.

    During a period of five years, systematically tone down the negative effects criminal activity designated by certain races might have on affected populations.

    (The five-year period is said to further have been extended up to the present day.)"




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilla_Saltsjöbadsavtalet

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