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    The Russian police arrested protesters today _outside the cathedral.

    There _is an issue with freedom of protest in Russia.

    The Orthodox church is _political and its only normal that it should be subject to protest.

    Neither Putin nor the Orthodox church is any friend of Russian WN/ NS.

    The Russian establishment is about money power little else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    The Russian police arrested protesters today _outside the cathedral.

    There _is an issue with freedom of protest in Russia.
    This is probably true, but Pussy Riot were clearly seeking to be provocative and largely got what they wanted out of this whole affair as evidenced by their smirking in court.
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    One of the girls looked jewish and it is hard not to see a prominent subversive aspect to the p r display but god knows nationalists are subject to enough 'protest' by these sorts of people and I dont see the christian churches complaining rather they reinforce the mentality and I dont think that Orthodox churches are any more sacrosanct than the homes, meetings, families and jobs of BN let alone the native lands.

    Sorry but neither side gets any sympathy from me. Two enemies at each other. Good.

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    Everything about this group - right down to their name - was designed to provoke. They knew what they were getting into, and I must say the sentence is quite lenient; the result, I believe, of this ridiculous beatification of these clowns in the Western media. Orthodox Christianity is deeply ingrained in the Russian psyche. Whereas Christianity in other Eastern Bloc states was deeply affected by communist atheist proselytizing, Orthodoxy continues to flourish in Russia, part of a traditionalist revival under Putin after the Yeltsin administration's years of Western fetishism. The fact that "Pussy Riot" has been taken to task for mocking a fundamental element of Russian identity is an indication that traditional values are alive and well in the nation. The West is obviously injecting an anti-Putin tone into this matter, but that signifies nothing more than desperation in their attempts to demonise the best leader Russia has had in a century.

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    I am amazed they only just got two years.

    As has been mentioned if this protest were against the leaders of the USSR and depending on which decade -it would have been from dragging them around the back of the disused church with gunshots to the head, to a police cell and torture and gang rapes and 10 years prison and if lucky several slaps to the head and put into a cattle truck bound for Siberian gulags for anything from five to ten years.

    As also has been mentioned and which I fully agree these morons were designed as 'provocative' in every form possible from name to provoking their own arrest by behaving in such a disgraceful manner.

    As the puppets of the NWO media and this EU entity cry 'Free Speech' now is the time to get them to choke on their absolute hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    For disturbing and ridiculing a religious service? He would probably have given them an award or something.
    It's about using a religious service as a publicity stunt to attack Putin and to ridicule and humiliate Slavic Russian culture and identity as part of the greater NWO campaign to overthrow the authorities in favour of a Jewish Liberal puppet regime. Those maggots should have gotten 20 years.


    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    I find it interesting how Western politicians and their degenerate 'celebrities' are so keen to get involved in Russia's internal affairs.
    This happens with such clockwork regularity that one could be forgiven for thinking that these Western Politicians have an agenda. Oh wait.....




    Clearly, Russia is still a bit too traditional for such Jew-infested places as the USA so they have to wheel out that ageing dirtbag Madonna to lecture us all on 'artistic expression' (she was on the news this evening and I felt quite sick )
    No doubt the Democratisers of the World (tm) are distressed that Moscow doesn't allow daily Rainbow Parades at the Kremlin.

    Meanwhile, Paul McCartney, another has-been, is doing his bit for the UK and some goon representing the EU has just chirped in with a 'freedom of speech' statement that must have Ernst Zundel rolling with laughter in his cell!!!!
    Oh the irony about the oppressive EU lecturing us on Freedom of Speech. They wouldn't know what it was if it bit them on the a$$.

    Of course, if these 3 members of 'Pussy Riot' () had burst into a Mosque and pulled this kind of stunt then the West would have been full of condemnation for them instead and we'd have been hearing the usual stuff about 'religious tolerance' and 'respecting other faiths' blah blah blah..
    Not to mention that they would have met Allah and received 72 goats (not male virgins) each. Why is it always the Christians who must turn the other cheek and accept abuse and ridicule from the Jew?

    However, it seems that the violation of a Christian holy place is more suited to their subversive agenda and especially welcome if used to take a swipe at a Russian leader who hasn't yet paid all his NWO dues.

    I'm sure there's a whole lot more to this affair than meets the eye
    Very true!


    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    Russia has long been a competitor of the US and the Russian and western medias are always having a go at the respective blocks.
    That's not quite true because a substantial chunk of Russia's media are in the hands of the Jew and are anti-Russian and anti-Putin whilst practically ALL Western Media is under Jewish control and pro-West and pro-NWO.

    Russian State TV (such as Channel 1) are Kremlin controlled and pro-Putin / Medvedev though. (Even though Medvedev himself is NWO and Putin ought to get rid of him but that's another topic).

    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    The Russian police arrested protesters today _outside the cathedral.

    There _is an issue with freedom of protest in Russia.
    You mean a Jewish and Anarchist rent-a-mob were rounded up. Oh boo-hoo.
    They had the freedom to be arrested so where's the problem? The same thing happens in any country.

    Are you trying to suggest that Russia is less "free" than countries such as for example, the UK, Sweden or Germany?

    Have you ever been to Russia? I have.

    The Orthodox church is _political and its only normal that it should be subject to protest.
    It's a Slavic-Russian Religious / Cultural institution. A lot of you seem to forget that it isn't just "religion" which is attacked but also the cultural and historical roots of the Slavic people. (Whether you approve of their National Religion or not). Once this is eroded and destroyed they'll be in search of some other identity, one which the Jew will eagerly provide them in the form of "World Culture" and *Egalitarianism.

    *Egalitarianism (from French égal, meaning "equal") is a trend of thought that favors equality among living entities.


    Do you consider yourself equal to a Negro, Paki, Jew or whatever? Do you want to be equal to them and do you want to celebrate their culture, diversity and tolerate their cultural practices?


    Neither Putin nor the Orthodox church is any friend of Russian WN/ NS.
    Putin may not be Hitler and the Orthodox Church may not be the SS but both have done a lot more for Slavic Russians (white people) than the supporters and sponsors of Pussy Riot have ever done or will ever do.


    The Russian establishment is about money power little else.
    That's true for many of them as it is true for virtually ALL of the Establishment in the UK, EU and USA.

    HOWEVER

    I don't believe this to be true of Putin himself because the EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD for him to do would be to collaborate with the White Hating USA / EU oligarchy. They'd be singing his praises day and night in the British Yellow Media and guys like you wouldn't even have given Putin a second thought because, after all, he'd be a "good guy" because the British Jew Media says so.

    Much of Russia's ruling class and ruling oligarchies are rotten but Putin, for all his faults is not one of them. Medvedev and his clique of liberal snakes are part of them though. Why Putin doesn't get rid of him is a mystery.
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    Those pussies should go and try that in a mosque.
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    I watched the video of the group disrupting the religious service, and while they were clearly being obnoxious and I found the protest to be in bad taste, I don't think it warranted 3 years in jail. I would expect the crime of being annoying in a public (sacred?) place to result in a fine, or perhaps probation. Thanks to all the publicity and media attention surrounding this affair, the Russian government will look bad for refusing to "free Pussy Riot." The Western media will have an excuse to put out alarmist stories citing the rise of censorship and dying of freedom of speech in Russia under Putin. Then again, if the government relents to the activists and lets them go free, Putin risks looking weak for caving to the demands of relatively small, if vocal, organizations.
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    Where was all the global outcry regarding Free Speech when Landser got sent to jail for being a bunch of terrorists for ... playing their guitars and drums?

    The double standard is so ridiculous. The whole German speaking area is up in a buzz about Pussy Riot. In Germany you have on one end of the spectrum, the above mentioned band going to jail for longer than Pussy Riot do for 'forming a criminal cell' --- in Austria you have on the other end of the spectrum, a bunch of animal rights activists being charged under the local mafia paragraph ('forming a criminal cell', again). But let's see ... people are concerned about a bunch of bitter punk ladies undergoing censorship by the Kremlin of all Human Rights Institutions?

    Who is "people" anyway? I saw Elfriede Jelinek, "our" (half Jewish) Literature Nobel Prize bearer, as vanguard in asking for freedom of Pussy Riot. Bear in mind this is the same Aunt Elfi that was part of a consortium that vocally called for the premature release of the "fully resocialised 'artist and poet'" Jack Unterweger some decades ago. The rest's history anyhow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Where was all the global outcry regarding Free Speech when Landser got sent to jail for being a bunch of terrorists for ... playing their guitars and drums?

    The double standard is so ridiculous. The whole German speaking area is up in a buzz about Pussy Riot. In Germany you have on one end of the spectrum, the above mentioned band going to jail for longer than Pussy Riot do for 'forming a criminal cell' --- in Austria you have on the other end of the spectrum, a bunch of animal rights activists being charged under the local mafia paragraph ('forming a criminal cell', again). But let's see ... people are concerned about a bunch of bitter punk ladies undergoing censorship by the Kremlin of all Human Rights Institutions?

    Who is "people" anyway? I saw Elfriede Jelinek, "our" (half Jewish) Literature Nobel Prize bearer, as vanguard in asking for freedom of Pussy Riot. Bear in mind this is the same Aunt Elfi that was part of a consortium that vocally called for the premature release of the "fully resocialised 'artist and poet'" Jack Unterweger some decades ago. The rest's history anyhow...
    The hypocrisy and double standards are glaring and outrageous. But how many times has any of this been pointed out in the German-language/European press? As Sigurd says, members of the German rock band, Landser, were arrested for forming a "criminal organisation" (quote from Wikipedia see below) and two band members were given a 2-year probationary sentence; the third band member, Michael Regener, the then leader of Landser, got a 3-year in prison sentence in Germany at the same time for forming this "criminal organisation", which organisation anywhere else in the world other than Germany would have been regarded as simply a rock band or group, and no-one raises an eyebrow in German-speaking Europe, or anywhere else in Europe, for that matter. Where's Regener's "freedom of expression"? Or Ernst Zuendel's, for that matter?

    Oh, I forgot again that this is Germany, the land of government press censorship and self-censorship, both of which stifle political commentary and public comments and debate in the German press on "sensitive subjects"; and so Germany is also the land of the glaring double standard and of arrant hypocrisy in regard to those "sensitive subjects".

    What did velvet say once? Oh yes, Germany has the most censorship laws and the most censored media in the world after the People's Republic of China. And this is democracy????

    From Wikipedia article on "Landser":

    In Germany, the band has been deemed a criminal organization. Three members of Landser were convicted of "forming a criminal gang organization" in December 2003, under laws that forbid publishing materials that defame the deaths of World War II, or are found to incite race hatred. Two members received nearly two years probation, while the band's leader, Michael Regener was sentenced to more than three years in prison, making it the first time a band has been declared illegal in Germany and its members incarcerated. On March 10, 2005, the German Federal Court of Justice, Germany's highest court, rejected Regener's appeal of his sentence.

    Regener was still producing CDs while waiting for his appeal. After the forced breakup of Landser, Regener founded a new band in 2004, Die Lunikoff Verschwörung (The Lunikoff conspiracy). They have made several CDs, including 2004's Die Rückkehr des Unbegreiflichen, Amalek Vol. 1 & 2, and 2005's Niemals auf Knien. The lyrics of these CDs were vetted by lawyers to make them not actionable according to German law. On October 21, 2006, approximately 750 neo-Nazis launched a protest outside the jail where Regener was being held, demanding his release
    Link to a BBC article on the rally protesting Michael Regener's imprisonment (don't blame me: I didn't write the "Neo-Nazi" headline below; remember it is a BBC article):

    Neo-Nazis rally for jailed singer
    Between the devil and the deep blue sea.

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