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    While I agree that Sikhs ought not to be settling in white Western countries, I would have to say that Sikhs are probably the best of all the Indian Subcontinent's tribes. They are, for the most part, energetic and industrious and law-abiding. As for bizarre crimes committed by individual Sikhs, as long as such crimes are committed on their home ground, it really doesn't matter to the world at large, even if it does make lurid or interesting content of news reports. It is when such crimes are committed in the countries that Sikhs and other Asian peoples settle in that it clearly becomes a problem for the host countries. But again, compared to other immigrant communities, Sikhs are rated pretty highly as a law-abiding community.

    The Sikhs, too, have a long and proud military tradition. Sikhs were highly regarded as soldiers by the British during the period of the British Raj and many of independent India's most distinguished soldiers (and airmen, for that matter) have been Sikhs. For example, two senior Sikh officers of the Indian Army, Maj.-Gen. Gurbaksh Singh and Brig. Hari Singh Deora AVSM, were the victors of the Battle of Asal Uttar over the Pakistani Army's tank forces in the 1965 Indo-Pakistani War. A battle that is still widely studied for its tactics and for other lessons drawn from it.
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    Hello Æmeric! Hello Theodericus!

    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post


    1) They don't belong in the US, Canada, Britain or Australia. They are alien parasites. Let these "good people" stay in Punjab.

    I am sick & tired of people holding up Asians as models minorities when the fact is other minorities (Leroy & Pedro) have set the bar pretty low.
    I daresay to have overheard that the US is a Nation of Immigration. Also YOUR ancestors where immigrated to the US sometime, so as four of my 19th-century ancestors did as well.
    In your case I would like to ask an american native (red indian) what he is thinking about white immigration since 1492 to America...
    The argument that the asians are always depicted as especially capable of integration immigrant minorities seems to be true when having a closer look on US corrective installations, better known as "gaols" as it is spelled originally.
    It is no good style to compare with these "Leroy & Pedro"-dagos but you are much better off to remember the brilliant handful of american statesmen and how they would have handled such a problem in the past. (I'd like to hint on the quotations of Abraham LINCOLN concerning the slavery-problem )

    Concerning Theodericus:

    What is surprising to me as a German that Brits are opposing Sikhs living in their country on the more as they are serving GB at least since 1847 until the very day. So if the British Government thinks it quit to let these Bengals serve as british subjects for their own purposes for centuries they also should tolerate them in their country for the serving-time period. To my continental understanding it is rude to kick the arse of former allies and british subjects since Benjamin Disraeli under Queen Victoria. Sikhs and Gurkhas are not invading GB and "downunder" but I do agree that they are over-representated in some british towns like Birmingham (57%) and Manchester (around 50%) thus benching aside the British tradition of ignoring foreigners on their national premises.

    As long as you grant them British Passports, don't wonder they stay in the UK.

    What I do not understand that our German government keeps 'em here WITHOUT passport. After being deprived of our colonies in 1914 there is no colonial tradition in Germany and still so many golliwogs around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pless View Post
    Concerning Theodericus:

    What is surprising to me as a German that Brits are opposing Sikhs living in their country on the more as they are serving GB at least since 1847 until the very day. So if the British Government thinks it quit to let these Bengals serve as british subjects for their own purposes for centuries they also should tolerate them in their country for the serving-time period. To my continental understanding it is rude to kick the arse of former allies and british subjects since Benjamin Disraeli under Queen Victoria. Sikhs and Gurkhas are not invading GB and "downunder" but I do agree that they are over-representated in some british towns like Birmingham (57%) and Manchester (around 50%) thus benching aside the British tradition of ignoring foreigners on their national premises.

    As long as you grant them British Passports, don't wonder they stay in the UK.

    What I do not understand that our German government keeps 'em here WITHOUT passport. After being deprived of our colonies in 1914 there is no colonial tradition in Germany and still so many golliwogs around.

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    Ah but this is the will of a government, that does not really act in the interests of its people. I don't think being allied with someone necessarily implies that you want them to move to your country or that they have a right to, that's not a fair assumption on the part of either ally.

    Your own nation was allied with the Ottoman Empire in the First World War, yet I would not contend you should simply accept these massive waves of Turkish immigration. Also remembering of the numerous minorities the government of the Third Reich allowed to fight under the 'Waffen-SS', Albanians, various Slavs and even an Indian division; the point applies.

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    Hello Theodericus!

    During W. I we really had the Ottoman Empire as alllies as well as the nations of Italy, Rumania, Bulgaria, the works. But none of the combattants ever held a German passport.

    During WW.II most of our alliies including Japan never had the right to live here.
    The latter invasion of italian/ spanish/ greek/ turkish/ and following the war immigrants of the US-started wars in- and outside Europe have been a political decision, at first to supply the German market with cheap and available labour .

    This last type of immigration was wantonly evoked by the Reds-/Greens-/links-politicians which I make fully responsible for the misery in Germany they want to abolish or make disappear from the european screen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pless View Post
    But none of the combattants ever held a German passport.
    There is a distinction though between British Subjects, British Overseas Territories citizens, British protected persons and British Citizens and different rights and duties are associated with each.

    Right of abode in the UK is limited to British Citizens.

    However citizenship is too easily obtained these days.

    I absolutely believe that Britain has certain remaining duties to the other kinds of "British" but I don't think getting to live in the extremely overpopulated island of Great Britain is one of them. I am also a little uncomfortable with commonwealth subjects having automatic voting rights if they live in the UK.
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    Not only was he a white supremacist, but when he was in the military, he was in Psy-Ops. Conspiracy theorists all over the world are having *rg*sms at the thought. As a previous poster mentioned, it has manchurian candidate written all over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingvaeonic View Post
    The Sikhs, too, have a long and proud military tradition. Sikhs were highly regarded as soldiers by the British during the period of the British Raj and many of independent India's most distinguished soldiers (and airmen, for that matter) have been Sikhs. For example, two senior Sikh officers of the Indian Army, Maj.-Gen. Gurbaksh Singh and Brig. Hari Singh Deora AVSM, were the victors of the Battle of Asal Uttar over the Pakistani Army's tank forces in the 1965 Indo-Pakistani War. A battle that is still widely studied for its tactics and for other lessons drawn from it.
    Like this?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Saragarhi

    "The Battle of Saragarhi was fought during the Tirah Campaign on 12 September 1897 between twenty-one Sikhs of the 4th Battalion (then 36th Sikhs) of the Sikh Regiment of British India, defending an army post, and 10,000 Afghan and Orakzai tribesmen. The battle occurred in the North-West Frontier Province, which formed part of British India. It is now named the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and is part of Pakistan.

    The contingent of the twenty-one Sikhs from the 36th Sikhs was led by Havildar Ishar Singh. They all chose to fight to the death. The battle is not well known outside military academia, but is "considered by some military historians as one of history's great last-stands". Sikh military personnel and Sikh civilians commemorate the battle every year on 12 September, as Saragarhi Day."

    That's pretty impressive irregardless of if one likes Sikhs or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    The fact remains: they're here, and they're here to stay for a considerable time, if not at the most outlasting our kind.
    I dont think so pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pless View Post
    I daresay to have overheard that the US is a Nation of Immigration.
    I have also overheard that race is a social construct. Do you give credence to this sort of drivel? Maybe you don't really give a damn about Germanic preservation...

    Also YOUR ancestors where immigrated to the US sometime, so as four of my 19th-century ancestors did as well.
    In your case I would like to ask an american native (red indian) what he is thinking about white immigration since 1492 to America...
    Do you care what they think? Do you think Europeans should all just leave?

    The argument that the asians are always depicted as especially capable of integration immigrant minorities seems to be true when having a closer look on US corrective installations, better known as "gaols" as it is spelled originally.
    It is no good style to compare with these "Leroy & Pedro"-dagos but you are much better off to remember the brilliant handful of american statesmen and how they would have handled such a problem in the past. (I'd like to hint on the quotations of Abraham LINCOLN concerning the slavery-problem )
    Why is it pertinent whether alien peoples are violent in their corrupting ways? If they are not violent and are more civilized as you say, they are more likely to be integrated and breed with our own, and at the same time, introduce more easily the alien elements that subvert and destroy our own culture.

    Concerning Theodericus:

    What is surprising to me as a German that Brits are opposing Sikhs living in their country on the more as they are serving GB at least since 1847 until the very day. So if the British Government thinks it quit to let these Bengals serve as british subjects for their own purposes for centuries they also should tolerate them in their country for the serving-time period. To my continental understanding it is rude to kick the arse of former allies and british subjects since Benjamin Disraeli under Queen Victoria. Sikhs and Gurkhas are not invading GB and "downunder" but I do agree that they are over-representated in some british towns like Birmingham (57%) and Manchester (around 50%) thus benching aside the British tradition of ignoring foreigners on their national premises.

    As long as you grant them British Passports, don't wonder they stay in the UK.

    What I do not understand that our German government keeps 'em here WITHOUT passport. After being deprived of our colonies in 1914 there is no colonial tradition in Germany and still so many golliwogs around.

    Headscratching,

    Pless
    So, do you think the Sikhs and Gurkhas are "British" because of their passports, and therefore deserve to stay in England?

    This post of yours has me scratching my head as well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    I dont think so pal
    Okay then, Mr. One-Liner, refute what I just said.

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