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    Republican Dissidents Join Forces to Form a New IRA

    Republican dissidents join forces to form a new IRA

    Exclusive: Merged organisation says it is planning to intensify attacks on security forces and other British-related targets

    Henry McDonald, Ireland correspondent

    guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 July 2012 19.00 BST


    Three of the four main dissident republican terror groups in Northern Ireland are to merge and reclaim the banner of the IRA, in a major escalation of attempts to destabilise power sharing.

    The Real IRA has been joined by Republican Action Against Drugs, which has been running a violent vigilante campaign in Derry, and a loose coalition of independent armed republican groups – leaving only the Continuity IRA outside the group.

    In a statement released to the Guardian, the new organisation claimed it had formed a "unified structure, under a single leadership". It said the organisation would be "subservient to the constitution of the Irish Republican Army".

    This is the first time since the 1998 Good Friday Agreement that a majority of the forces of dissident republicanism has coalesced.

    Republican sources have told the Guardian that the new paramilitary force includes several hundred armed dissidents, including some former members of the now disbanded Provisional IRA who have been conducting a campaign of shooting and forcible exiling of men in Derry City, whom they accuse of drug dealing.

    It also includes what the statement described as "non-conformist republicans" – smaller independent groups from Belfast and rural parts of Northern Ireland.

    Republican Action Against Drugs and the Real IRA will now cease to exist, one source close to the dissidents said.

    The new organisation is planning to intensify terror attacks on the security forces and other targets related to what it regards as symbols of the British presence, according to the source.

    Such targets could include police stations, the regional headquarters of Ulster Bank and the UK City of Culture 2013 celebration in Derry – which the dissidents have described as "normalising British rule".

    In its statement, the new group said: "In recent years the establishment of a free and independent Ireland has suffered setbacks due to the failure among the leadership of Irish nationalism and fractures within republicanism" – a reference to the divisions between hardline republicans opposed to the peace settlement and Sinn Féin which has followed a political strategy. Martin McGuinness of Sinn Féin, Northern Ireland's deputy first minister, was a leading figure in the Provisional IRA.

    In a clear dig at Sinn Féin's participation in the power-sharing executive with unionists, the dissidents' statement said: "The Irish people have been sold a phoney peace, rubber-stamped by a token legislature in Stormont."

    It said that the "necessity of armed struggle in pursuit of Irish freedom" against what it described as "the forces of the British crown" would only be avoided by the removal of the British military presence in Northern Ireland. It demanded "an internationally observed timescale that details the dismantling of British political interference in our country".

    It also attacked the Northern Ireland secretary, Owen Paterson, over the arrest of several key republican figures, referring to him as an "overlord". "Non-conformist republicans are being subjected to harassment, arrest and violence by the forces of the British crown; others have been interned on the direction of an English overlord. It is Britain, not the IRA, which has chosen provocation and conflict."

    It is understood that among the republicans who have joined the new organisation are those responsible for the murder in April 2011 of Constable Ronan Kerr, a Catholic recruit to the police service of Northern Ireland, and the terrorists who targeted Peadar Heffron, another Catholic police officer, who was seriously injured in January 2010 when a bomb exploded inside his car as he was driving to his police station.

    The recruitment of Republican Action Against Drugs activists in Derry marks a major step up in the terror campaign in the city. Dozens of former Provisional IRA members have been involved in shooting and intimidating mainly young Catholic men whom they accuse of drug dealing in Derry.

    Republican Action Against Drugs' campaign has become notorious around the world since an investigation by the Guardian earlier this year into the wave of shootings and forced expulsions in Northern Ireland's second city.

    Republican factions

    Until this week there were four separate violent groups opposed to Sinn Féin's peace strategy. As a result of this merger three republican terror groups have become one, reclaiming the banner of the IRA:

    The Real IRA was formed out of a split within the Provisional IRA (PIRA) in 1997 and was responsible for the Omagh atrocity a year later.

    Republican Action Against Drugs (RAAD) – a group comprising ex-PIRA members whose purpose was to run an armed vigilante campaign against drug dealers. It has agreed to coalesce with other anti-ceasefire republicans.

    Independent republican factions – until now an amalgam of terror groups operating in Northern Ireland. They are sometimes referred to collectively as Óglaigh na hÉireann.

    Continuity IRA, the fourth republican faction, remains wholly independent.

    The adoption of the name IRA is an attempt by the dissident republicans to reclaim from history the title of the movement that dominated republican politics in the 20th century. Since the Irish war of independence there have been several mutations of the IRA from a mass movement of armed fighters in the 1918-1921 Anglo-Irish war to a small band of diehards who conducted the 1958-62 border campaign. Its use has withered since the peace agreement in 1998.

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    I would be happy to see a united Ireland if that is what the people want. I dont understand why the dissidents arent happy that they will get what they want under the Good Friday Agreement as soon as the majority agrees.

    I would also like to see a confederation of independent British nations to include Ireland -- not ruled from Westminster but a union of folkish nations. Our peoples and our nations are distinct yet intertwined.

    In part I blame the British government and media establishment for the break up of the Union. Instead of all this multiculti business we should have promoted our own folkish culture and given attention to folkish music, clothing, cooking, poetry, art etc.

    It is clear that the British establishment isnt at all interested in the indigenous folkish nations so I see no reason why Scotland should want to stay in the Union.

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    This is the full statement from the new IRA Army Council.

    Following extensive consultations, Irish republicans and a number of organisations involved in armed actions against the armed forces of the British crown have come together within a unified structure, under a single leadership, subservient to the constitution of the Irish Republican Army.

    The leadership of the Irish Republican Army remains committed to the full realisation of the ideals and principles enshrined in the Proclamation of 1916.

    In recent years the establishment of a free and independent Ireland has suffered setbacks due to the failure among the leadership of Irish nationalism and fractures within republicanism. The root cause of conflict in our country is the subversion of the nation's inalienable right to self-determination and this has yet to be addressed. Instead the Irish people have been sold a phoney peace, rubber-stamped by a token legislature in Stormont.

    Non-conformist republicans are being subjected to harassment, arrest and violence by the forces of the British crown; others have been interned on the direction of an English overlord. It is Britain, not the IRA, which has chosen provocation and conflict.

    The IRA's mandate for armed struggle derives from Britain's denial of the fundamental right of the Irish people to national self-determination and sovereignty – so long as Britain persists in its denial of national and democratic rights in Ireland the IRA will have to continue to assert those rights.

    The necessity of armed struggle in pursuit of Irish freedom can be avoided through the removal of the British military presence in our country, the dismantling of their armed militias and the declaration of an internationally observed timescale that details the dismantling of British political interference in our country.

    Signed Army Council … IRA.

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    BNP policy on Ireland

    This statement used to be on the BNP website:

    Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.
    This is from the 2010 manifesto:

    - Create an English parliament in Westminster. This, and the Scottish, Welsh and Stormont parliaments would oversee such functions of the present devolved administrations as cannot sensibly be accommodated by the county councils.
    - Create a pan-British parliament to oversee those policy areas currently determined [at] Westminster, plus those powers repatriated from the EU. This body would have its formal base in Westminster, though we envisage it would sit in rotation in each of the national parliaments.
    - The BNP would create a standing invitation for Eire to join the pan-British parliament as an equal partner.

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    A solution to the Ireland question:

    An united Ireland with the queen as honoury head. Not as an United Kingdom though but as a separate kingdom. There have been many cases in history of a royal family as head of separate kingdoms. So, not the United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland but the Kingdom of Britain and the Kingdom of Ireland.

    Any solution would have to appeal to both communities. Republicans want an united Ireland and Loyalists want to remain British. An united Ireland with the queen as nominal head of a separate kingdom may be acceptable to both communities.

    The Irish can be Irish and the Irish British can remain Irish British. Neither community would have to give up its identity or its culture. Switzerland has had distinct folk communities for centuries. Ireland needs a political and social structure that will allow the communities to live in peace and agreement. The domination of one community by another is not a solution and we have seen how well that worked out in civil war and decades of tit for tat terrorism.

    The communities are properly folk communities and it would be part of the solution to promote the folk cultures of the communities. Irish and British Irish culture have much in common and it would bring them closer together. The British Irish are mainly Scottish and Irish in ancestry and Scotland and Ireland have similar historical cultures. The music is very similar for instance, reels and jigs.

    The immigration problem would also need to be addressed, with repatriation of recent immigrants. That would help prepare the way for the promotion of folk communities.

    Religion has helped to keep the communities apart and hostile to each other in the past. That problem is solving itself. 1/3 of Irish catholics have abandoned their church in the last decade, in part due to the child abuse scandal. Religion generally is growing much weaker in both communities. They no longer see each other as "damned heretics" but as people who may or may not be bothered with formal religion.

    I have thought about Ireland for many years and I have been disturbed by the situation. I have always known Irish men and women since childhood, from both communities and I have liked them on the whole. I hope that the above solution will be acceptable to their hearts.

    Celtic culture is an important aspect of the British mindset and the British spirit has been gravely injured by the troubles in Ireland. British folk music for instance is practically the same as Irish folk music. What has been externalised from the British psyche needs to be reintegrated. A solution would be good for us all. Obviously immigration needs to be reversed in Britain too so that British folk culture and identity can be promoted here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    A solution to the Ireland question:

    An united Ireland with the queen as honoury head. Not as an United Kingdom though but as a separate kingdom. There have been many cases in history of a royal family as head of separate kingdoms. So, not the United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland but the Kingdom of Britain and the Kingdom of Ireland.

    Any solution would have to appeal to both communities. Republicans want an united Ireland and Loyalists want to remain British. An united Ireland with the queen as nominal head of a separate kingdom may be acceptable to both communities.
    No it won't solve anything, and the Irish republicans are republicans for a reason. They want independence and to be united with the Republic of Ireland, not the rule of the British monarch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    I dont understand why the dissidents arent happy that they will get what they want under the Good Friday Agreement as soon as the majority agrees.
    The reason (apart from the fact that they are extremists) is that they do not recognise Northern Ireland as being a separate entity from the Republic of Ireland. Therefore what the majority of the people of "Northern" Ireland wants is irrelevant to them, because they would say that NI is over ruled by to what the majority on the Island of Ireland wants.

    I'm not saying I agree with that I'm just answering your question.

    These guys would hardly even have a thousand supporters, more likely a few hundred at most.
    The actual IRA, led Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness among others is now defunct and it's previous members are pursuing the goal of a united Ireland by democratic means only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    Any solution would have to appeal to both communities. Republicans want an united Ireland and Loyalists want to remain British. An united Ireland with the queen as nominal head of a separate kingdom may be acceptable to both communities.
    No, that wouldn't work. 99% of people in the Republic of Ireland wouldn't entertain that notion even for a second. The fact that you could propose that idea shows that you don't understand the mentality of the nationalist community in Ireland at all.

    The Queen is generally liked in Ireland. Many people even watch the queens speech at christmas (just to see what she'll say), but virtually nobody would want her as the head of State.
    Close observation may result in feelings of horror, wonder and awe at world you find yourself inhabiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    A solution to the Ireland question:

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    It is an attractive solution: Ireland is united and independent to appeal to the nationalists while retaining its links with Britain to appeal to hip the unionists. Unfortunately I think it's too late for that now. If the option had been offered prior to independence I believe it would have been a popular one, and indeed something similar was pursued by many nationalists. Now however, the identity of Ireland as a independent republic is so well established that I can't see any way short of force to establish a united Ireland in this way.

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    Although Ireland is a natural geographical island it is unfortunately in the same quagmire as Cyprus regarding its population of two cultures separated by religious and sovereign differences.

    I have always thought a Federal United Ireland as best with a seat on the Volkish council of Britain in London where all Independent states get together in the common interest while maintaining their self rule.

    A Federal United Ireland would allow the federated six counties of N.I. full autonomy with the right to uphold the royal crown and its links to Britain while still being part of a united Ireland which therefore enables its non-Royal citizens of whatever faith to simply enjoy a united Ireland without bullet or bomb..

    A Dual Aspiration which if one really thinks about it is absolutely possible for the determination of Peace and Prosperity.. United Sporting teams would also be a wonderful aspiration of this..

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    As far as I can see the National Front takes the old Ulster Unionist line of "never!" That hasnt been the position of the British establishment or any of the mainland parties since the turn of the twentieth century. Ulster was seen as temporary until agreement was reached for unity. The 1949 treaty stated that Ulster would return to Ireland when there is an agreement in the north and south. Republicans accepted that scenario in the GFA. The main Unionist parties also seem reconciled to the GFA. A few small republican and Unionist paramilitary groups reject the GFA but the associated political parties have very little support or chance of representation in the shared NI parliament. So AFAIK no mainstream party on the mainland has ever supported the NF position on NI and very few Unionists today take a "never" stance. The NF seems to agree only with the remaining Unionist paramilitaries who have little support or political influence. I dont think that any other BN group agrees with the NF. Its them and the paramilitaries no one else. Correct me if Im wrong about that. Of course the Unionists have never reciprocated NF support. Im not sure what the NF is trying to achieve with its policy on NI?

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