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    Violence and aggression against white people will continue to escalate as our influence in society dwindles and we turn into minorities. That is why I think it is wrong to take away our ability to defend ourselves, and that is what gun control will mean - regardless of the intention.

    Criminals will always find a way to get hold of guns, and they will greatly benefit from gun control as their victims will be more defenseless.

    I think our future looks very bleak right now and in that kind of situation it is
    simply wrong to make us more defenseless.

    I think Americans should cherish and defend their right to bear arms because it will be more important than most people realize today.






























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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Wellenkamp View Post
    I think our foreign friends don't understand why we can keep arms in America. It has to do with personal defense, not just against other people but from the government as well.
    I think most of your foreign friends actually agree with you.

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    Gun *Ownership* has overtaken this thread..

    This entire debate should be moved to an appropriate thread accordingly..

    It has moved away from the actual atrocity which is one of many inside the United States. Each atrocity should have its own sub thread within a Thread for Gun Massacres in the USA as Elsewhere..

    Am I wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyidi View Post

    Innocent white American Europeans were mowed down murdered because of this foolish law of anyone has the right to own a fire weapon or to bare arms that can kill many people.
    If it makes you feel better Hyidi (and I know it gives me some comfort) Negroes & Hispanics are much more likelier to vicitims of gun violence in proportion to their share of the population. It just isn't national (or international) news if a dozen Negroes or Mexicans are killed in a single incident. It is big news when it happens to Whites or the shooter is White.

    Mexico has very strict gun laws but they are averaging 15,000 gun murders a year compared to the US's 10,000. And Mexico only has 1/3 the population of the US. The fact that 1/5 of all Mexicans are in the US contributes to gun violence in the US.

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    Tragedies like the one in Denver are always used as a pretext to try to make it impossible for us to defend ourselves against armed criminals.

    In countries saturated with guns, criminals will always be armed regardless of gun control laws, it is a big lie to suggest anything else. So, the only question is whether it is right to disarm innocent people, rendering them powerless to defend themselves against violent attacks.


    One can take a look at the situation in South Africa, where often unarmed Germanics are systematically raped, tortured and killed by armed blacks.


    A genocide is greatly facilitated by first disarming the population targeted for genocide.


    One can disarm them physically by taking their weapons, and disarm them mentally by instilling in them a sense of guilt and shame instead of pride of their race.

    Deep-seated shame and guilt make people less aggressive and instead passive and apologetic.


    Shaming has proven to be very effective in all Germanic countries too, as the opposition to mass-immigration has been virtually non-existing because of it.







    This is a very good article from South Africa about the lie of gun control:



    "The Lies and Propaganda of the Gun Control Lobby


    Where shall we begin? Since the start of the campaign to outlaw guns in civilian hands, the anti-gun movement - in this case Gun Free South Africa - has not shied away from fabricating any and every piece of 'evidence' necessary in an attempt to brainwash decent people into believing that an inanimate object, the gun is too dangerous for YOU to own. Naturally representatives of IANSA, the parent body are also not reluctant to fabricate and embellish their case as the need arises, but in our country the people we see and hear are Gun Free South Africa.

    We could create lists of lies, large and small that they regurgitate with regularity to the media, on television and radio at every opportunity, without shame or conscience, as they attempt to reshape your outlook into one where you will be conditioned to think as a willing and cooperative victim,rendered unable to defend what is rightfully yours and those you love from criminal predators, who almost certainly will have guns!

    Here is a link to Google search which might help.

    One valuable source of information refuting many gun-control lies is this document (PDF 675KB) produced by Guy Smith of California. It is aligned to the US experience but may still prove useful.

    The BIG LIE, however is the one that lies behind the entire campaign - the big MOTHER-OF-ALL-LIES that underpins everything they do and every propaganda piece produced - and whilst they happily make up figures and spout spurious statistics in defence of their stance to UN and government committees and to the media, the BIG LIE is the one that few in the media, for instance are prepared to tackle - or perhaps they don't get it?

    The BIG LIE is the one that connects disarmament of LEGAL and LAW ABIDING gun owners to a reduction in violence caused by CRIMINALS with guns.

    We are frequently fascinated to hear interviews with gun-control fanatics where the "issues" surrounding gun-control as an answer to criminality are discussed - NEVER has any media person stopped the process dead by asking the question that needs to be asked - and answered - publicly and unambiguously - "What has this to do with illegal guns used by criminals to kill, maim, rob and rape?"

    The knee-jerk reaction that they managed to stimulate in politicians of this world who then proceed to enact evil laws like the Firearms Control Act is easy to understand. Their stated aims have from the start had a nice ring to them - ' A South Africa where no one will need a gun', for instance, or as we point out elsewhere in this website, the Programme of Action document from the UN in 2001 which contains 51 references to "illicit trading in small arms", but not a mention of action against LEGAL owners.

    Who would not support such a noble ambition such as a country where no one needs a gun? However a little thought and research will show that it is not the owners of LEGAL guns who commit the armed crime we see daily in our neighbourhoods, but CRIMINALS armed with ILLEGAL weapons.

    Those criminals will remain entirely UNAFFECTED in any way by the legislation and therefore it can have NO EFFECT on crime. This has already been proven by rising violent crime statistics in Britain, Australia and Belgium, where gun-bans have been implemented in recent times.

    THEY HAVE LIED - either from the beginning, which would indicate that there was always a hidden agenda and the true objective was deliberately obscured - or as a result of their initial good but misguided intentions being thwarted by the unpalatable fact that governments of this world have no intention of stopping the flow of weapons around this world - The Soviet Union alone have dumped 70 million AK47s into conflict areas, the South African government (past and present) has introduced hundreds of thousands of pistols and automatic rifles into all our neighbouring states, without exception and into every province of our country - neither IANSA nor the UN can ever recover these weapons or stop this flow of ILLEGAL GUNS TO CRIMINALS!

    THEY HAVE LIED TO YOU about the way you should be able to protect yourself and you family - when for example your home is invaded by thugs. Their advice is to lock yourselves in a room and cower there until your emergency call is answered by either the police and/or your home security company. The police are renowned in SA for their tardiness in attending such calls, and there is no way any security guards patrolling, can respond with 5-10 minutes, even when they happen to be passing close by on their rounds. Think about '5 - 10 minutes' - just sit where you are, doing nothing for 5 -10 minutes - now try to envision cowering in the bedroom or bathroom, while the invaders try to batter down the door - KNOWING that with a gun you could dispatch these invaders very quickly and protect yourself and everything you hold dear. Sometimes a single shot heard by a home invader has sent them running for their lives, armed or not.

    THEY CONTINUALLY LIE about the very nature of guns, trying to demonise the actual inanimate collection of steel and plastic components as somehow 'evil' and 'dangerous', that can somehow kill people by itself. Just like the spade in your garden shed a gun is a tool - an extremely powerful tool, ownership of which brings with it vastly more serious responsibilities than your garden implements - but people have been killed by garden implements - hundreds of thousands in Rwanda alone, hacked to death for instance.

    THEY LIE when they claim that a gun is more likely to be the instrument of death or injury of it's owner or a family member than of any value in any action against criminals. The Defence Reports on this website give the lie to that claim.

    THEY LIE when they claim that a gun used in an attempt to prevent violence by criminals 'complicates things'. It will certainly complicate things for the perpetrator of violence, of course, and perhaps Gun Free South Africa clearly wants violent thugs to have an uncomplicated and successful career. However the alternative, that of allowing the attacker to have his way will undoubtedly vastly complicate your life - try paying the hospital bills that can arise from your severe injuries, that'll be complicated! If you are anything like most normal people, you really don't care how 'complicated' things may get for criminals who attack you or other decent citizens.

    THEY LIE when they tell us that the answer to crime is to implement even more passive security measures - at your home or business or in your car - The technology today is certainly extensive and expensive and criminals beat all of it every day and every hour!

    THEY LIE when they try to convince you that an armed response service, for which you will pay handsomely, can protect you - apart from any previously mentioned delay in simply reaching you, we have heard of cases where armed response personnel deliberately dally en route to a call-out where they know or expect to find armed criminals engaged in crime. For their salaries, we can hardly blame them!

    Of course the target of the gun-control fanatics' lies is also the government of South Africa - to persuade and convince them to enact laws to disarm you - this they have achieved in South Africa. When we look at government we see what they have to say:

    SAPS advises you to cooperate with criminals and never to resist in any way, whilst stating that self-defence is not valid reason for having a gun.

    The Minister of Safety and Security, Charles Nqakula has told the nation that those who complain about the levels of violent crime should leave the country.

    The same man was recently on a taxpayer-funded tour of Europe to tell lies to parliamentarians and the media there in order to play down the "South African crime tsunami" in fear of the effect it may have on investment.

    The President of South Africa, Thabo Mbeki has told the nation many times that there is no crime crisis - merely a crime problem. Read our ever growing list of violent criminal actions (note that we do not list any crimes where non-firearm weapons are involved!) and make up your own mind!

    Finally - reliance on the SAPS for any kind of protection is an illusion of note - this article tells you how the police themselves rely on civilian security services for their protection!

    THE DECEPTION BY THE GUN CONTROL FANATICS IS DEEPER THAN WE WILL EVER KNOW - DO NOT BE DECEIVED!"


    http://www.gunfacts.co.za/lies_abt_guncontrol.shtml

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    Colorado Shooter Was Camp Counselor for Jewish Big Brothers and Sisters:
    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/brea...rs/2012/07/21/

    Maybe this guy was brainwashed by ZOG to go on a spree in-order to put a dent in Gun Rights, definitely paving the path for total Tyranny!
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    They just had to point out at the end that Holmes was not Jewish. Why should they care? Oh thats right they are the only ones who can be special and unlike every other group.
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    Like I said before, if US really wanted to be free from the Jews, America would had taken Germany's side in WWII. Germany never needed the law of 'The right for all to bare arms' to take down the International Jewry, so why do you Americans need' the right for all to bare arms?

    The Jews are just excuses because you Americans love owning and firing your guns, I think your country is backwards and too dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyidi View Post
    Like I said before, if US really wanted to be free from the Jews, America would had taken Germany's side in WWII. Germany never needed the law of 'The right for all to bare arms' to take down the International Jewry, so why do you Americans need' the right for all to bare arms?

    The Jews are just excuses because you Americans love owning and firing your guns, I think your country is backwards and too dangerous.
    What a laugh that is, you haven't read anything that anyone has said.

    I can't believe you didn't even make this joke:
    Right To Bear Arms


    Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyidi View Post
    Like I said before, if US really wanted to be free from the Jews, America would had taken Germany's side in WWII. Germany never needed the law of 'The right for all to bare arms' to take down the International Jewry, so why do you Americans need' the right for all to bare arms?

    The Jews are just excuses because you Americans love owning and firing your guns, I think your country is backwards and too dangerous.
    And it is certainly your right to hold the opinion that the US is unsafe. In fact it is in areas overran by minorities (something you Aussies will know as well soon enough). But when you are in a Germanic/Celtic area it is perfectly safe and in my entire life have never had any problems at all. As a matter of fact when looking at the bigger cities where crime is really comparable to being in a city like Rome or London. What you don't seem to understand is that random shootings are sooo very rare. But like you said you feel it is unsafe so it would probably be best to not even check it out for yourself to understand what the locals on the ground are trying to tell you here.
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