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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfaz View Post

    This 71-year-old man shot the two robbers.

    71-year-old man shot the robbers

    I seen this video the other day, and although this old timer scared the hell out of these guys and chased them away...he continually missed and I would take his CC permit away immediately. No one should want to rely on a senior citizen who shoots like he's in a davy crockett movie.

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    @feisty

    I heard on one of the talk radio programs here, that one of the female victims of the batman shooting was also one of a few that escaped a mall shooting in Canada very recently.

    To live through one and then be taken out in the other, in another country no less.

    File that in the 'life is just like that' folder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paraplethon View Post
    Manchurian candidate?
    This is where the principle of cui bono comes into play. I wonder if anyone impartial will be allowed to study this guy... he had a really bright future ahead of him, then he does this. Why?

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    Now even Rupert Murdoch is tweeting about gun control. But he himself may be a compromised individual.

    If all this sounds kooky to even consider, just remember that it's been done already... many times, and who benefits? Those who want citizens disarmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfaz View Post
    Wow, that eyeshape! This man was surely Irish descendant. Well, I just don't understand why the people don't shoot down this idiot as the americans have right to keep and bear arms.

    This 71-year-old man shot the two robbers.

    71-year-old man shot the robbers
    There seems to be an explanation for this:
    What is truly extraordinary about this horrifying scene is that nobody shot back. Given the large number of lawful citizens in Colorado who carry concealed weapons -- off-duty police and Sheriffs, armed citizens and former military -- it seems likely that at least one person in the theater would have been carrying a concealed weapon which could have been deployed to help stop further bloodshed. Perhaps the confusion of the event prevented this from happening. Many moviegoers reported thinking it was some sort of "promotional special effects" event rather than a real massacre, according to news reports.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/036535_Ba..._shooting.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horagalles View Post
    There seems to be an explanation for this:
    Well, the solution should be that they protect the public places with more armed guard. However I just can imagine that TSA-like crew will scan the people in the cinamas and the gov. will disarm the free people everywhere.

    A Mediterranean Beach with free people somewhere East:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfaz View Post
    ...This 71-year-old man shot the two robbers.

    71-year-old man shot the robbers
    Criminals don't like it when someone actually fights back. The old codger with the pistol in this video had more than the measure of these two cowardly clowns. Good one, granddad! And I'll bet a pound to a pinch of pigshit these robbers weren't white.

    I can remember one similar incident that happened in Melbourne many years ago: a local shop owned and run by a Russian immigrant family was held up and when the young criminal, who was armed with a fully loaded revolver, demanded money at gunpoint from the old Russian matriarch serving behind the counter, she simply smiled and shoved the muzzle of a loaded 12-gauge shotgun up his nose, and kept smiling. The would-be armed robber then dropped his revolver and ran so fast that no-one could catch him, pretty much like the idiots in the video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    This is where the principle of cui bono comes into play. I wonder if anyone impartial will be allowed to study this guy... he had a really bright future ahead of him, then he does this. Why?

    Now even Rupert Murdoch is tweeting about gun control. But he himself may be a compromised individual.

    If all this sounds kooky to even consider, just remember that it's been done already... many times, and who benefits? Those who want citizens disarmed.
    From the perspective of wanting to preserve the second amendment it makes sense to offer up explanations such as these, but are you honestly surprised that there are individuals out there that would use the freedom afforded to them for malicious purposes? As a second amendment supporter I can imagine that one would support this freedom regardless of whether acts such as these occurr or not, since the freedom is seen as of such paramount importance that it overrides the individual tragedies, even when they start to add up. If one strongly values a certain principle, this support will tend to withstand almost anything that is thrown at it.

    But if we separate the issue of the second amendment from the realization that there are violent nutjobs out there who take advantage of the commercial availability of guns and ammunition, then surely we can agree that the latter isn't all that surprising? Even if we follow the logic of the conspiracy, if there are people out there plotting and carrying out bloody murder in order to achieve a political victory, then what makes the bloody murder on its own so unfathomable?

    The issue to me seems to be whether or not we accept negative consequences, or unintended consequences, as an outcome of a particular policy. Compare this to a liberal position visavi alcohol, those who argue in favor of liberal laws are obviously prepared to accept a certain amount of alcoholism and alcohol abuse as a consequence of liberalization (whilst knowing that there would be alcoholics and alcohol abuse even if stricter laws were in place). Similarly the pro-gun advocate will be aware of the fact that murders would continue to occur even if guns are banned from the general public, which means that there's no great moral burden to bear on a personal level in defending the second amendment. The policy is meant to provide benefits for the majority of the law-abiding citizens, and those benefits are seen to upweigh much or all of the downside attributed to the proposed policy.

    Even the second amendment itself, nowadays, partially rests on the understanding that there are people out there for whom actions such as these aren't unthinkable (apart from its application in defending oneself from a tyrannical government), and that we all need to be given the ability to arm ourselves in order to stand a chance if we happen to cross paths with one of those individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfaz View Post
    Wow, that eyeshape! This man was surely Irish descendant.
    His full name is James Egan Holmes. Egan is an Irish surname, so your instincts may be correct. He very likely is at least part Irish.
    Close observation may result in feelings of horror, wonder and awe at world you find yourself inhabiting.

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    James Holmes Claims Amnesia: Alleged 'Dark Knight' Shooter Wonders Why He's Arrested

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/james-holmes-amnesia_n_1709573.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D18478 9


    Amnesia would fit with the Manchurian Candidate theory.
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