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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Point taken, but it does reveal the cretinism, often extreme, that Islam engenders in its followers. A hyperbolic story perhaps, but still useful in seeing how the Islamic farts often look at the non-Islamic world. Let's also not forget that these theistic windbaggers do have followers; they aren't simply yelling on a street corner at random passersby.
    Don't forget as well, there are Catholic agitators in Southern Italy who are strongly against any excavations of the ruins of Pompey, and various other sites, for fear of displeasing God by bring up this Pagan past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus
    Much of this hate for their own pre-Islamic heritage is tied to the fact that, traditionally, Muslims do not identify with this or that nation, culture, heritage, or language, but only with the Islamic nation—the Umma.
    This is not relevant to the argument whether Islamists will try/do destroy their pre-Islamic heritage. It's Idolatry that is the "problem".

    And regardless of the questionable source of this article (interesting to note that a Jewish source would point to national heritage, now isnt it) this is a "world view" that is to be taken seriously when dealing with Islamists. At the end of the day the prohibition of idolatry can apply to each and every object, be it pyramides or books or jewelry or even more profane objects that are in one way or another a symbol of culture.



    I'm not surprised though, only a bit about the speed actually. The UN "intervention" in favour of all socalled "rebels" during the Arab Spring and beyond was designed exactly for that purpose to bring Islamic extremists (aka Muslim Brotherhood (a CIAl Qaida product?)) into power throughout the Arabic World. There's Islamists in Egypt, soon in Libya, when Assad is gone in Syria as well etc.

    Now the question is for what purpose would such a design be made? Imho it's safe to assume that this isnt in actual support of Islamic extremists. Just the (shortsighted) justification to continue the already ongoing wars in Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, etc? To ensure the continued streams of refugees into Europe, US, Oz etc? Or the perfect excuse to bomb the Islamic world to rubble entirely within a WWIII scenario?

    Whatever it may be it wont turn out well for the world.




    And, thinking about it... why would Jews care about the destruction of non-Jewish cultural heritage anyway? If it's all gone, their old claim "all culture comes from Jews" wins new credibility, no?
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    Slightly related to the topic:

    One thing I found interesting and rather surprising is that there is a tomb to a soldier named Pirouz Nahavandi in Iran. He fought against the invading Caliphs in the Arab invasions of Persia, was captured and brought back as a slave by the moslems, and ended up killing the Caliph Umar, then escaping back to Persia and dying (in peace I guess). Apparently he never converted to Islam as well.

    What I find very interesting is that this Islamic-extremist-terrorist government of Iran absolutely refuses requests from the 'International Union for Muslim Scholars' to destroy the tomb.

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    when Assad is gone in Syria as well etc.
    Nice choice of words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodericus View Post
    Don't forget as well, there are Catholic agitators in Southern Italy who are strongly against any excavations of the ruins of Pompey, and various other sites, for fear of displeasing God by bring up this Pagan past.
    I'd want to avoid poking around Roman-era ruins because I know what tourism tends to do to them, not for fear that the Almighty might get angry because someone in the post-Roman period is burgling some ancient artifacts.

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    And, thinking about it... why would Jews care about the destruction of non-Jewish cultural heritage anyway? If it's all gone, their old claim "all culture comes from Jews" wins new credibility, no?
    As a way to inspire sympathy with their non-Jewish helpers? "See what the ragheads want to do to the Giza Pyramids! They'll do it to Notre Dame! To the Collesseum! You better be good goy and help us!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodericus View Post
    these monuments of the past live in departed greatness, among people who did not create them and who consequently have no will to preserve them.
    The story of my life.

    What I find very interesting is that this Islamic-extremist-terrorist government of Iran absolutely refuses requests from the 'International Union for Muslim Scholars' to destroy the tomb.
    The worst culture-destroying Muslims, those responsible for Wahhabism and such extremist cults, are mostly from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states. In other words, the original homeland of Islam. One doesn't see Central Asians like the Iranians behaving in this destructive way to their own monuments, unless they're influenced by these Gulf Arabs or trying to emulate them (as the Taliban were doing).

    And also, as Velvet pointed out, they're all close allies of Israel and the US. Make of that what you will...

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    Indeed, in Iran their national-paganism (no others!) is a protected religion alongside Christianity and Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ablutive View Post
    Indeed, in Iran their national-paganism (no others!) is a protected religion alongside Christianity and Islam.
    "National paganism" is a bit too strong way to put it, although there are indeed Zoroastrian cultural remnants in Iran (especially in the cities).

    Of course, one can also argue that Shia Islam has syncretized the pagan elements in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigyn View Post
    The worst culture-destroying Muslims, those responsible for Wahhabism and such extremist cults, are mostly from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states. In other words, the original homeland of Islam. One doesn't see Central Asians like the Iranians behaving in this destructive way to their own monuments, unless they're influenced by these Gulf Arabs or trying to emulate them (as the Taliban were doing).

    And also, as Velvet pointed out, they're all close allies of Israel and the US. Make of that what you will...
    Great point. I would put it down to the remaining Indo-European spirit and blood that remains in Persia, albeit far more diminished than during the height of Persian greatness (logically). Most of the interesting products of Islam, worthy of study, come from Iran as well. Such as Sufism etc.

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    http://www.rt.com/news/egypt-destroy...islamists-007/

    Calls from a Bahraini Sunni cleric to destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids have been revealed as a hoax. The demands were made from a Twitter account which claimed to be owned by Bahrain’s President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud.
    In the post, a person masquerading as al-Mahmoud labeled the pyramids “idolatrous” and asked Egypt’s new president to destroy them, as Egypt's Daily News reports.
    Several conservative websites used the news to raise alarm over the rise of Egypt’s Islamist government.
    According to rumors, al-Mahmoud encouraged Cairo to “accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”
    This was a reference to the Muslim Prophet Mohammed’s companion, Amr bin al-As, and his ancient tribesmen who invaded and conquered Egypt in 641.
    An Islamization process was begun under his rule – which saw many Egyptian monuments destroyed as “relics of infidelity.”
    However, demolishing the pyramids was prohibited during the 7th century – so the structures remained untouched.
    The parody tweet was published on June 25 – the same day Muhammed Morsi was announced president of Egypt. However, it wasn’t picked up by media until today.

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