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    The Situation on the Ground in England

    So, as the thread suggests, I am wondering about the nationalist situation 'on the ground' in England. After (belatedly) watching things such as Nick Griffin on Question Time, I was depressed for a short while. The logic used by some of these people against the BNP was absolutely horrid.

    Simply laughing at Griffin's statement that the British people are indigenous shocked me. Then did Greer's logic that (paraphrasing here) "no one was here in the Ice Age, so the descendants of the British must've come from the South, and we all come from Africa, so...".

    What was also amusing that Warsi did exactly what she accused Griffin of, dancing around the topic and trying to dodge questions.

    *discussing his claim that the British people are being genocided*
    Warsi: Do you even know what genocide means?
    Griffin: Yes, I do, the UN defines it as ... *proceeds to give the definition but Warsi interrupts*
    Warsi: Shame on you for even saying that.

    Anyone with half a brain would hear that and see Warsi obviously failed in her call-out.

    One question from the audience that was totally ignored "why are we letting in immigrants, while we have high unemployment". Well that shoots to shit the idea that Britain is looking for skilled labour to fill in gaps. Hence why it was soundly ignored.

    Anyway, after hearing that interview, I could almost say 'shit, there is not hope at all'.

    However, clearly the audience was handpicked, I gathered that. So what I am wondering, is; how many of your average English (let's include Brits in general) colleagues/friends/acquaintances express relatively 'racist' views about non-white immigrants, and do you believe there is certainly a latent English pride and racism to be harnessed? Or are everyone essentially like the BBC audience?
    If only you knew how bad things really are

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    The masses will do as they are told. If we had a situation where being racist was preferable they'd be racist. If left to their own devices, they are generally racist it's natural instinct.

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    The problem of these politically correct people (multiculturalists, liberals, you name it) is their stupidity and their uncivilized attitude when they take their time to "debate" with nationalists, the True Right etc. They do not tolerate any open and respectful exchange of ideas. In a lot of cases, it doesn't even seem like they are trying to convince the ideological opposition of the truth of their own position. It's all about ridiculing the opponent and trying to silence him in this way. The reason that this is possible is that they are dominating the entire mass-media. It's easy for them to have the debate on their own premises.

    I seriously doubt that the average englishman is deeply convinced of the truth of multiculturalism and mass immigration. The public space has come to be dominated by this ideological paradigm (even though it was never consciously chosen by the majority), and it becomes too easy to just play along and be politically correct to avoid the unpleasant consequences that may arise if one dares to openly oppose the official ideological line. Especially if one can get away with multiculturalism and still have a nice house, a nice job and buy all the new cool stuff that you think you need. The working class and the ones that are most directly confronted by the negative effects of multiculturalism and mass immigration are the ones that in most cases will stop caring about political correctness...
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    From my own experience there are many English people who feel a deep resentment about what is happening to England, but they also fear expressing their opinions openly. The fear of being labelled 'Nazi' and kicked out of their jobs for holding such views is common. I suspect that it will take an extreme scenario to rouse these people's anger enough to rebel. As long as basic comforts and means of survival and escapism are available to these people, they'll keep their mouths shut and go along with mainstream modern culture.

    I live in Devon, which is still predominantly 'White' and English, and have often heard migrants from London and the surrounding areas express their distaste for the change in culture and population in their ancestral areas. Of course, they only disclosed such to me when they felt safe in the knowledge that I wouldn't 'dob them in' and was of a similar persuasion.

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    Thank-you for the firsthand information. Olavssønn, renownedwolf, Dægeseage, you confirm my suspicions. It seems there is something there to be 'harnessed'.

    I think a key problem is the 'Nazi' label. It is funny that British cultural/racial pride is associated with Nazism (and a nice media defamation tactic), not like we gain our influence from the racialism of the British Empire or anything....

    I believe that something big truly does have to happen in order for the majority to wake up. Perhaps this will be the collapse of the EU? Perhaps something will happen at the Olympics? I believe it will be the collapse of the EU, when the UK and Germany can no longer be milked by the lazy members.

    Do these people simply shut their eyes to what has happened? All they have to do is take a walk around London and see what has happened. I don't see how anyone could not feel distressed at that situation.

    Perhaps this is why the British are emigrating at such a high amount? There are something like 1 million in Spain, and 1 million in Australia.
    If only you knew how bad things really are

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