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    How about having a great fire at the auditorium hosting the First Zionist Conference in Basel in 1897? The blood enemies of our people, including the authors of the protocols would die. Then they could not arrange the Federal Reserve Act or WW1 or empower cultural marxism, among many other things. How tragic.
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    There have already been some very good suggestions.

    I would somehow not allow the jews to leave the middle east and not let them even have a population base outside of Palestine. That way they would never have been Europeanized in the first place and they would never have the influence of usury that they have had since the Middle ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    How about having a great fire at the auditorium hosting the First Zionist Conference in Basel in 1897? The blood enemies of our people, including the authors of the protocols would die. Then they could not arrange the Federal Reserve Act or WW1 or empower cultural marxism, among many other things. How tragic.
    The Protocols have obviously been fine-tuned. No discourses, not even Plato's Sokratean dialogues, are written down like that. Plus, Nietzsche is mentioned alongside Marx and Darwin, demonstrating Christian bias.

    It doesn't matter if the Protocols are genuine or not, what's important is it's way of expressing the Jewish goal, which is pretty accurate.

    If I could change an event in history, I would prevent the Jewish Essenes from ever forming. They probably formed the core of the so-called 300 Rathenaus. They qualify for the woes of the Pharisees and I presume they had Jesus (if he existed) put to death. The liberal, Roman fearing Pharisees got blamed for it.

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    Hastings would be my #1 change but (since others have already chosen this event) I'm going to be greedy and pick another one, which is Stalingrad.

    This may be unnecessary, however, since European history would have played out much differently had the result gone the other way in 1066.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Hastings would be my #1 change but (since others have already chosen this event) I'm going to be greedy and pick another one, which is Stalingrad.

    This may be unnecessary, however, since European history would have played out much differently had the result gone the other way in 1066.
    In what ways do you believe European history would have been changed by a continued Anglo-Saxon rule of England?
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    Well, without French domination of English life for the next 400+ years England would have been far more influenced by Scandinavian culture instead. We’d have certainly turned north-eastwards for much of our trade and I believe this trading bloc would have been even greater than the Hanseatic League (..which may never have been created).

    Anglo-Saxon England with powerful Scandinavian allies would have been more than a match for any other continental power, but would the different tribes have remained united or fought among themselves? These things are hard to predict – you can only offer scenarios and guess at the outcome. It’s fairly certain though that there would have been no Hundred Years’ War between England & France during the 14th & 15th centuries, which was essentially a squabble between French monarchs in England & France over bits of French territory; mostly ‘unfinished business’ from Hastings.

    The only good thing about Europe’s longest war to date it is that while France & England were focused on each other they were not bothering anyone else. However, had this conflict never taken place then what would the revised priorities of these countries have been? Again, it’s pure speculation but in the Middle Ages it must never be assumed that in the absence of war there would be peace (..there would just be a different war against somebody else!) and I personally think that France could have become a major problem for the rest of Western Europe.

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    I would've tried to prevent all Abrahamic religions from taking root in this world.

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    My intervention involves the most important state document of the 20th century, the von Schlieffen plan, and the most important event of the last 200 years: the Great War.

    I would change 6-8 weeks in August-September 1914, making the von Schlieffen plan work - whether that's realistic or not is up for debate, but that's when I would disrupt the historical timeline. Then all of our parents or at least grand parents would've known someone whom remembered the carnage and bloodletting of "the nine months war", a.k.a. "the great European war", 1914-1915, reminding the younger generations of that time Europe almost wrecked itself, but didn't, and instead went through a period of rejuvenation.

    I would be there to make Moltke get a grip on himself and get him to stick to the basic principles of the Schlieff's plan - it's meant to work like a revolving door, it doesn't matter if the French conquer half of Baden and push eastwards, the farther the better ... it's part of the original plan to lure them into a death trap - Moltke has to keep the right wing of the advance through Belgium and Northern France as powerful as von Schlieffen envisioned it, even on his deathbed. That means no funny business with moving desperately needed troops from the right flank to the left flank on the Franco-German border - nor from the western front to the eastern front, which wasn't even requested as they it was obvious they would come to late to influence the battle raging at the same time in Prussia - and not launching offensives in the Elsass until the French are virtually encircled. One of the biggest yet forgotten battles in history (which should definitely be remembered) is the battle of the Grand Couronné, a tremendously costly German counteroffensive in the border area in September 1914. The OHL (Moltke) believed the French were on the ropes and thought it was wise to ignore a basic principle of the von Schlieffen plan and he let the army of the otherwise competent commander prince Rupprecht of Bavaria go on the offensive resulting in losses similar to those of the suicidal French attacks from August in the same area.

    And/or I would help von Kluck out on the Marne - after all, the German advance would've simply continued were it not for a chance discovery by a reconaissance plane which noticed a gap between von Kluck's army and that of von Bülow, marching southwards on pure adrenaline, as the Kaiser's soldiers just like their enemies were beyond exhausted, yet delirious because victorious. Without that airplane the Battle of the Marne may have been a footnote in history.

    If there's no alternate universe in which this is possible, I'd simply ditch the von Schlieffen plan and the invasion of Belgium, Luxembourg and France to make Germany play defense in the West in 1914 and let the French exhaust themselves with fruitless offensives for a few years. It seems like the safer bet to win WW1.

    But if the von Schlieffen plan works as intended, all of world history would be very different, the 20th century would be a German century rather than the American one it was. The impact on our cultures of the Great War would be limited and its memory different without the battles of Verdun, the Somme and Passendale.

    There's the survival of four empires and dynasties, continued European dominance and Belle Epoque, no Soviet Russia and hence a much weaker world communism, no World War II (?), no Cold War, gradual and slow decolonization, religion would be stronger, people would be politer, optimism about technology could still be warranted, no mass migration and something else than liberal democracy would be the dominant system of government in continental Europe. Perhaps we'd live in a resurrected Holy Roman Empire 2.0 with us remembering Vicky-Louise as the greatest empress who ever lived.



    An unbroken Germany would be the motor of an empire unequaled in world history and we'd all be better off for it - and richer and healthier too. We wouldn't speak German, but we would live as Germans, the best of Germans - and who could be against that?
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    If the above didn't work, I would try and convince Hitler not to invade Russia and not to declare war on the US.
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    I would have tried to tell Hitler to leave the Jews alone.
    Why?
    No nation has been able to eradicate the Jews for thousands of years.
    The Nations that tried always lost in the long run, at least that is what history shows.

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