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    SA Needs Second Transition

    Johannesburg - The ANC's second transition is necessary to overcome the compromises it made in the fight for democracy, President Jacob Zuma said on Tuesday.

    "One of the causes of the slow pace to economic freedom is that ahead of [the first democratic election in] 1994... we went through a negotiations process," Zuma said in Midrand.

    "We had to make certain compromises in the national interest, and these were absolutely necessary to make. We had to be cautious about restructuring the economy in order to maintain economic stability and confidence at the time."

    Zuma was opening the policy conference of the ruling African National Congress.

    He said the apartheid era's economic power had remained intact.

    "The ownership of the economy is still primarily in the hands of white males, in which it has always been."

    A document on the second transition was one of the ANC's 13 policy documents which would be discussed during the four-day conference.

    Zuma said the second transition would make the country a "true democratic developmental state... which has a number of instruments it can use to facilitate change".

    The first transition was still important because it had ushered in an era of democracy in South Africa.

    "The time has come to do something more drastic to accelerate change towards economic transformation and freedom."

    Zuma asked delegates to discuss the notion of a second transition when dealing with the strategy and tactics document.

    "It is time to ask questions about the present and future... the last 18 years was the first transition. We are calling for a dramatic shift... to deal with the triple challenge[s] of poverty, unemployment and inequality."


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    Yes Mr President, go on, opress us even more. You know that the international community will turn a blind eye if you throw us, the taxpayers, into squatter camps. Take our companies, farms, houses, all of our posessions we have worked for, just remember, I will not go lie down without a fight! I will NOT give what I have worked for, and what my parents have worked for to a bunch of baboons who is too lazy to work! I just wonder what the international community will say about losing all of their investments?

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    The third transition of course will be to re-name South Africa....Zumbabwe.

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    It sound more and more like it is time to implement a great quote from Sean Connery in The Hunt for Red October "A little revolution is good from time to time."

    or a quote from the American Declaration of Independence:
    "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

    or a nice quote from my neck of the woods ..."Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."

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    Quote Originally Posted by flâneur View Post
    The third transition of course will be to re-name South Africa....Zumbabwe.
    No, Azania.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    yes, I have often wondered how long it would be before the name Azania slipped out of the ANC closet again...None of this augurs well for the future but it will be better for the world to see the ANC uncloaked and its agendas laid bare than for South Africa to endure any more of their 'democratic' dissembling. Having said that...who in the 'democratic' world would care anyway? Those darn evil apartheid whites are getting their just desserts aren't they?
    “unless they know, mystically, that beneath the concrete lies the earth which has nourished their race for a thousand years and ... that it is their own earth from which their blood is shed and renewed, then they are a lost people, and easy prey for those who have lacked roots for many centuries"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamrammr View Post
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    Yes Mr President, go on, opress us even more. You know that the international community will turn a blind eye if you throw us, the taxpayers, into squatter camps. Take our companies, farms, houses, all of our posessions we have worked for, just remember, I will not go lie down without a fight!
    I heard this pretty often before the '94 "elections". Essentially nothing came from it. But then people had sero personal experience with "Africans" running a country.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hamrammr View Post
    I will NOT give what I have worked for, and what my parents have worked for to a bunch of baboons who is too lazy to work! I just wonder what the international community will say about losing all of their investments?
    Actually that argument was even used AGAINST the secessionist options that were proposed! Because that would have meant that some people would have their farms, house, businesses or parts thereof under Black control. That's why they opposed a Volksstaat! They'd rather have everything going down, then having to give away a bit. Well, even those in a Volksstaat would have to carry parts of the cost of change. Rebalancing the cost of change that is. But it's manageable.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Volkstaat

    Any Volkstaat should have access to the sea and a border with Namibia for geographical strategic reasons. Either way a Volkstaat is inevitable the way things are going in South Africa.

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    The political elite and their struggle buddies now have the money and the the power. The majority of the blacks are quick to admit that they were better off during apartheid. We 'managed' and 'cared' for the black masses with compassion and humanity, contrary to public belief. They had the best medical, social and educational facitities in Africa at their disposal. There will have to be a black revolution where the Kaffir Royalty (Mandela, Sisulu, Zuma etc.) will have to be dethroned to allow for a fairer dispensation that would allow fior a redistribution of wealth. That however is the western way. In Africa, and I have said it many times, things work differently. Disparities are part of daily life, just as hunger and famine. If these baboons start running the country according to western methods revolution is emminent. They know that. That is why they allow strange things, like these witch hunts (Scorpions and Falcons) to happen. They protect themselves and their cronies.

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    "Second Transition", which is Marxist nigger speak for taking what they cannot earn for themselves, the ANC will move closer to Soviet style regulated farming, no single black will own soil.

    Although the colors have no official meaning attached to them, they represent a synopsis of the country’s vexillological history and current political realities. Black, green and yellow are the colors of Nelson Mandela’s political party. Moreover, the flag incorporates also the colors of the African National Congress and the former Boer republics flags (red, white, and blue). The Y shape represents the convergence of South Africa’s diverse society and unity. The South African flag is basically made up of former South African flags and the past meanings of the colors were that red stands for bloodshed, blue for open blue skies, green for the land, black for the black people, white for the European people and yellow for the natural resources such as gold.

    http://www.daytranslations.com/southiafricanflag


    Spear of a Nation? Azania looks on the cards then.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    I'm in favour of transition.

    Let's start by redistributing SAB-Miller, Anglo-American, De Beers, Pick n Pay and the Banks to the ANC while we'll keep the farms and land.

    Considering how much more wealth are tied up in the above-mentioned Corporations I'd say it's a more than generous offer.

    In any case, the only way to "go it alone" would be to carve out some land and a route to the coast. The people who insist on old Transvaal / OFS borders are on crack. Totally unworkable. Unfortunately, should things come to this, the fkn Yanks and EU will attack and occupy us so the whole thing is kind of a non-starter atm.
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