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    Texas Father Won't Face Charges for Beating to Death 47 Year Old Mexican Who Was Raping His 5 Year Old Daughter

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/t/story/dad...death-16608312

    There are certain favorable things to be said for Texas ...

    Dad Won't Face Charges in Alleged Attacker's Death

    The Associated Press
    By PAUL J. WEBER Associated Press
    Updated 16 min ago

    Hearing his 5-year-old daughter crying from behind a barn, a father ran and discovered the unthinkable: A man molesting her. The father pulled the man off his daughter, authorities say, and started pummeling him to death with his fists.

    With his daughter finally safe, the father frantically called 911, begging a dispatcher to find his rural ranch and send an ambulance.

    "Come on! This guy is going to die on me!" the man is heard screaming on the 911 call. "I don't know what to do!"

    25th Judicial District Attorney Heather McMinn, left, and Lavaca County Sheriff Mica Harmon appear at a news conference in Halletsville, Texas on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 to announce that a grand jury declined to return an indictment against a young father who beat to death Jesus Mora Flores for molesting the man's five-year-old daughter.
    A recording of the tape was played during a news conference Tuesday where the Lavaca County district attorney and sheriff announced that the father will not face charges.

    In declining to indict the 23-year-old father in the June 9 killing of Jesus Mora Flores, a Lavaca County grand jury reached the same conclusion as investigators and many of the father's neighbors: He was authorized to use deadly force to protect his daughter.

    "It's sad a man had to die," said Michael James Veit, 48, who lives across the street from where the attack happened in this small community run on ranching and the Shiner beer brewery. "But I think anybody would have done that."

    The family ranch is so remote that on the 911 tape, the father is heard profanely screaming at a dispatcher who couldn't locate the property. At one point, he tells the dispatcher he's going to put the man in his truck and drive him to a hospital.

    "He's going to die!" the father screams, swearing at the dispatcher. "He's going to f------ die!"

    The tense, nearly five-minute call begins with the father saying he "beat up" a man found raping his daughter. The father grows increasingly frazzled, shouting into the phone so loudly at times that the call often becomes inaudible.

    This June 16, 2012, photo shows a building near Shiner, Texas, where authorities say a Texas father beat to death with his fists a man molesting his 5-year-old daughter on June 9. A Lavaca County grand jury on Tuesday, June 19 declined to indict the father in the death of 47-year-old Jesus Mora Flores. Emergency crews found Flores’ pants and underwear pulled down on his lifeless body when they responded to the 911 call.
    The Associated Press is not identifying the father in order to protect the daughter's identity. The AP generally does not identify victims of sexual assault.

    "He's a peaceable soul," V'Anne Huser, the father's attorney, told reporters at the Lavaca County Courthouse. "He had no intention to kill anybody that day."

    The attack happened on the family's ranch off a quiet, two-lane county road between the farming towns of Shiner and Yoakum. A statement released by the district attorney said a witness who saw Flores "forcibly carrying" the girl into a secluded area scrambled to find the father. Running toward his daughter's screams, the father pulled Flores off his child and "inflicted several blows to the man's head and neck area," investigators said.

    Emergency crews responding to the father's 911 call found Flores' pants and underwear pulled down on his lifeless body. The girl was examined at a hospital, and Lavaca County District Attorney Heather McMinn said forensic evidence and witness accounts corroborated the father's story that his daughter was being sexually molested.

    The father was never arrested, but the killing was investigated as a homicide.

    Philip Hilder, a Houston criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecutor, said he would have been surprised if the grand jury had decided to indict the father. Hilder said Texas law provides several justifications for the use of deadly force, including if someone commits a sexual assault.

    "The grand jury was not about to indict this father for protecting his daughter," he said.

    Authorities said the family had hired Flores before to help with horses on the ranch. He was not born in the U.S. but was here legally with a green card. Attempts to locate Flores' relatives through public records were unsuccessful.
    Heather McMinn, district attorney for Guadalupe, Gonzales and Lavaca Counties, speaks at a news conference with Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon, second from right, and V'anne Huser, right, attorney for the father, at a news conference on a Texas father who beat to death a man who tried molesting his 5-year-old daughter Tuesday, June 19, 2012, in Halletttesville, Texas. Officials said the Lavaca County grand jury met Tuesday and declined to return an indictment against the father in the death of 47-year-old Jesus Mora Flores.
    On Tuesday, a new "No Trespassing" sign was freshly tacked onto a gate barring entrance down a gravelly, shrub-canopied path leading to the barn and chicken coop on the ranch, which belonged to the father's dad.

    At the father's house, the front yard could pass for a children's playground: blue pinwheels sunk into patchy grass, an above-ground swimming pool, a swing set, a trampoline and a couple of ropes dangling from a tree for swinging. A partial privacy fence is painted powder blue.

    No one answered at the father's home. A few miles away, at a home listed as belonging to the father's sister, a woman shouted through the front door that the family had nothing to say. Huser, the father's attorney, told reporters that neither the father nor anyone else in the family would ever give interviews and asked that they be left alone.

    Veit, who lives across the street from the ranch, described the father as easygoing and polite — down to always first asking permission to search Veit's property for animals that had wandered off the ranch, even though the families have long known each other.

    Veit's son was a classmate of the father's at Shiner High School in a graduating class of about two dozen. Veit, 48, said the young father was never known to be in trouble.

    "Just like a regular kid, went to dances, drank beer like the rest of the kids around here," Veit said.

    Shiner, a town of about 2,000 people about 80 miles east of San Antonio, revolves around the Spoetzl Brewery that makes Shiner, one of the nation's best-selling independent beers. Even gas stations here sell it on tap.

    Defense attorney V'Anne Huser speaks to the media during a news conference held by 25th Judicial District Attorney Heather McMinn and Lavaca County Sheriff Mica Harmon in Halletsville, Texas on Tuesday, June 19, 2012. A grand jury declined to return an indictment against a young father who beat to death Jesus Mora Flores for molesting the man's five-year-old daughter. Huser firmly requested that the media leave the family alone and that they "were moving on" from the incident.
    Flores' death is only the sixth homicide the Lavaca County Sheriff's Office has investigated in the last eight years. Shiner residents boast their squeaky-clean image on a highway welcome sign: "The Cleanest Little City in Texas."

    At Werner's Restaurant, customer Gail Allen said she didn't want to speak for the whole town, though her comments echoed what others said.

    "The father has gone through enough," said Allen, 59, who has nine grandchildren. "The little girl is going to be traumatized for life, and the father, too, for what happened. He was protecting his family. Any parent would do that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesritter View Post
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/t/story/dad-face-charges-alleged-attackers-death-16608312

    There are certain favorable things to be said for Texas ...
    Unfortunately not everybody shares our sentiment:
    I'm appalled at all the HuffPo readers who seem to be defending the rapist. makes me want to hurl. The father was a good guy who was devastated by the death, but he needed to protect his daughter first and foremost. Of course the lib readers here would have blamed Bush for the attack, and labeled poor Jesus as a victim. You all should be ashamed.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1605279.html

    However we should actually use this exposing the liberals as sympathizers of child molester.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    It is interesting, if one looks at the majority of the surnames or the name of the local prime industry, the brewery, mentioned in the article, it is easy to see a lasting legacy of German immigration to this part of Texas.


    Personally, if I'd been the father or were I to have been a friend of his at this scene, in order to spare him & the family more grief & legal difficulties, I would have taken the child-rapist's head without the mercy of an axe, bare-handed, so the child-rapist got off lightly in my book being beaten to death.

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    Good for him - the attacker deserved no less. It's sad that the b****rds death worried him so much when he phoned 911 however it is probably what saved him from a conviction. I can't say I would have acted any differently in killing the perp.
    “unless they know, mystically, that beneath the concrete lies the earth which has nourished their race for a thousand years and ... that it is their own earth from which their blood is shed and renewed, then they are a lost people, and easy prey for those who have lacked roots for many centuries"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorbrand View Post
    Good for him - the attacker deserved no less. It's sad that the b****rds death worried him so much when he phoned 911 however it is probably what saved him from a conviction. I can't say I would have acted any differently in killing the perp.
    I think he indeed mainly worried about himself/his family, being the guy who killed someone, getting to jail for it and having to leave his family alone.

    He sounds like a good man to me.
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    He not only did the right thing, he also did it with the necessary resolve. And to top it off he even showed some basic human compassion by trying to save the life of the man he just caught violating his daughter. The man clearly did not deliberately kill the rapist. He was in a barn in Texas: He probably had both a pitchfork, axe and shotgun within arms reach but only attacked the rapist with his hands, because the father was only trying to subdue him.

    This must have made it quite a no-brainer for the justice system.
    Even in this day and age, the courts can still get it right at least every once in a while.

    A good and inspiring story. I can only hope that I would be able to do something like this if I ever find myself in a comparable situation.

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    He should sue the liberal for an extra tax, as they are responsible for the migration policy that was the cause of him having to go to that ordeal.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    http://www.heathermcminn.com/

    The fact that the distric attorney is elected, not appointed by politicians, probably helped to ensure a sensible outcome in this case.

    If the same thing would have happened in Sweden he would have faced manslaughter charges without question, and the judges would have more than likely found him guilty of it, with impunity.

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    Demographics for Lavaca Couty;

    86.86% White
    6.79% Black or African American
    0.19% Native American
    0.16% Asian
    0.02% Pacific Islander
    4.84% from other races
    1.14% from two or more races

    11.36% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.
    Since "other races" & "Two or more races" generally means Hispanic in that part of the US it would appear Lavaca County is 80% non-Hispanic White.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrioten View Post
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    The fact that the district attorney is elected, not appointed by politicians, probably helped to ensure a sensible outcome in this case.
    In this case, yes. Generally district attorneys & sheriffs are elected in the US. In some states (Texas for example) judges are also elected. But when Leroy & Jose have voting clout it works against us. It is difficult for a White person to get justice from the Negro dominated justice system in Detroit. And the prosecution of George Zimmerman in Florida is influenced by political considerations by elected officials like district attorneys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post

    In this case, yes. Generally district attorneys & sheriffs are elected in the US. In some states (Texas for example) judges are also elected. But when Leroy & Jose have voting clout it works against us. It is difficult for a White person to get justice from the Negro dominated justice system in Detroit. And the prosecution of George Zimmerman in Florida is influenced by political considerations by elected officials like district attorneys.
    Yes, what you get is majority justice of course, but majority justice is better than the "blind" justice we have here which is the product of uniform leftist ideology. Blind justice is nowhere to be found, so the best you can hope for is justice that tilts in your favor.

    At least in the US if you live or seek out a life in a particular constituency where your own race and political inclinations are dominant, you have a decent shot at justice whereas in Sweden there's no justice to be found anywhere. So even though it might not be ideal, it's alot better than the available alternatives (unless we imagine a situation where blacks and mexicans lose their voting rights).

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