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    I also don't think the 3 different groups of 'special forces' warrior where closed groups.

    We know the behaviour of berserks when not in war and it was pretty nasty. Harassing the womenfolk and threatening the menfolk. It didn't seem suitable to noble people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    We know the behaviour of berserks when not in war and it was pretty nasty. Harassing the womenfolk and threatening the menfolk. It didn't seem suitable to noble people
    Maybe, but most of those tales come from sagas written down in the 13th century dealing whit affairs happening at the end of the 10th.

    Also in the in the first decades of heraldry in Europe in Germanic the bear and boar where among those animals that where as emblems. And the some rulers had the nickname bear, or there names contained references to the animal. Only later the lion became more popular thanks to Christian propaganda efforts. A shift in preference one can also observe in depictions of Noah's arc, where the oldest ones often show the bear in the most prominent positions and in the later ones it is the lion.

    And there also legends and folk tales about bears fathering royal bloodlines. For more details I probably would have to reread the materials I am studying in relation to this.
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    The symbol of the lion was not explicitly a Christian one if I recall, but a pre-Christian one.. notably Alexander the Great. Perhaps it should be more properly seen as a symbol of European Imperialism?

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    The lion isn't an european animal. It is connected to christianity (or better judaism) as the lion-symbol on noble people heraldic signs started with christianity.

    Lionheart was only possibly named so after the lion was introduced by christianity.

    The Lions Club is therefore founded by the Jew Rockefeller to give non-Jews a way to defend Jews, and they are therefore called Lions.

    The Bear is a much older germanic symbol, Berlin means small bear, the russians have that as their national poweranimal.

    Many germanic states use the eagle. To my knowledge none is using a lion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renownedwolf View Post
    The symbol of the lion was not explicitly a Christian one if I recall, but a pre-Christian one.. notably Alexander the Great. Perhaps it should be more properly seen as a symbol of European Imperialism?
    You are partly correct in that regard. The lion was also a regal symbol in the Mediterranean area. However in Northern Europe it was Christian clerics that made it the regal symbol. A process helped because people could no longer see lions being torn to pieces by bears in the arenas. And I think it is more the eagle that is associated with imperialism in European symbolism.
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