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    Secret of Aging Found: Japanese Scientists Pave Way to Everlasting Life

    http://www.rt.com/news/japan-scienti...op-ageing-461/

    Japan, which already tops the world’s life expectancy list, now has another tool to cement its leading position. The country’s scientists say they have discovered a protein responsible for ageing and learnt to control it.

    *A group of scientists from Osaka University have found that one of the components of the human complement system is directly responsible for ageing, Russia’s ITAR-TASS quotes Japanese media on Saturday. The C1q protein, the researchers say, is to blame for human cells getting old.

    Part of the immune system, the complement system helps or “complements” the body in clearing away germs. The C1q protein was earlier thought to be merely a building block in the system.

    Having established the protein’s true role, however, the scientists claim they have also learnt to control it, almost completely blocking cells’ ageing process. The discovery, they claim, could easily become a key to everlasting life.

    But there is also a different side to the story.

    By casting the protein “into sleep” and slowing the ageing process, scientists also block the body’s entire immune system. So far, a way of stopping the ageing and keeping the immune system working has not been found.

    But the researchers say they are hard at work, so who knows? Perhaps one day before too long we might be able to stay young – and healthy at the same time.

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    What good is everlasting life if you have a limited mind? I don't think humanity is ready. I think this technology will be developed sooner than it should be and will fall into the wrong hands.

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    Well it can't come soon enough for me. As far as I'm concerned this ageing thing has already lost it's mystique.

    However I would say that I think it is highly unlikely that the cure for ageing will be a one shot deal. Ageing is mostly due to cumulative cell damage that is caused as a by-product of metabolism and metabolism is an extremely complex process. A cure for ageing would require that several types of damage be repaired at a molecular level.

    I don't think this will happen until the development of perfected nano technology. We need to be able to go into each cell in the body and repair the DNA of that cell and return the cell to a molecularly youthful state. This would be a colossal task to perform on even one cell (if it were possible) never mind doing it for all 50 trillion+ cells in the body.
    Close observation may result in feelings of horror, wonder and awe at world you find yourself inhabiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VonMemel View Post
    What good is everlasting life if you have a limited mind? I don't think humanity is ready. I think this technology will be developed sooner than it should be and will fall into the wrong hands.
    This is terrible for all minds. The human condition recognizes that with each breath taken, beauty fades. Factors responsible for ambition and greatness will practically cease to exist, appreciation of beauty will die or be twisted and molested, and people will plunge further into the depravity of excess and self-indulgence.
    Life is a well of delight; but where the rabble also drink, there all fountains are poisoned.

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    Also, I wonder what will happen to human reproduction if they some time in the future will be able to stop the process of ageing in most of us living in the developed world... Another interesting question to ask is how long it will take before these 'immortal' individuals become so tired with life that they will choose to end it themselves? I think the urge to preserve this physical body for as long as possible is extreme materialism.
    This science is very interesting, but as I said in that other thread as well: call me conservative, but I don't like the thought of messing too much with Nature. I think science is great in that it lets us understand much about the workings of the material world, but I do not take it for granted that everything should be manipulated and messed with just because we are able to do it. Such things could end with unexpected consequences...
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    If you live for 200 years or so, I doubt you will remember anything of your "early" life. Your childhood, school years, friends and interests would all be gone. In a sense you wouldn't live forever, you would be someone else.

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    There are a few more things involved that has to be solved in order to bring us eternal youth. Google for Aubrey de Grey and hear what he has to say.

    On the bright side, however, he and his crew seem to think that it can be solved in our lifetime, something that would bring many interesting social changes and force some rather stark choices upon us.

    It should also be mentioned that by reactivating the regenerative capacities of the cell you will also increase the incidence of cancer considerably; those functions are turned off for a reason. And that, i.e. cancer, is something that we will have to solve a lot better than today if eternal life on these premises is to be realized.

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    Pretty neat. I dont actually buy into any of this actually being possible but just speaking hypothetically its pretty cool.

    Imagine if great athletes could be preserved and repaired to stay in their prime. Could you imagine a prime Manny Pacquiao or Fedor Emelianenko never growing old... able to train and fight for years and years.... jeez... or Derek Jeter able to hit bombs and put dudes on base throughout the ages....

    Man my mouth waters at the possibilities.

    That would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sefo View Post
    Imagine if great athletes could be preserved and repaired to stay in their prime. Could you imagine a prime Manny Pacquiao or Fedor Emelianenko never growing old... able to train and fight for years and years.... jeez... or Derek Jeter able to hit bombs and put dudes on base throughout the ages....

    Man my mouth waters at the possibilities.
    You're mouth waters at the prospect of preserving:

    Manny Pacquiao - Filipino
    Fedor Emelianenko - Russian
    Derek Jeter - Mulatto

    You couldn't think of a single Germanic in their place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfram View Post
    You're mouth waters at the prospect of preserving:

    Manny Pacquiao - Filipino
    Fedor Emelianenko - Russian
    Derek Jeter - Mulatto

    You couldn't think of a single Germanic in their place?
    That was not the point of that post.... I was just using examples of some of the greatest athletes within the sports i love the most. That kind of athleticism is worthy of preserving.

    I would have to think pretty hard to find an example of Germanics who possess the ability of those three guys in their sports.... its not going to happen regardless of what you think about it.

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