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    Quote Originally Posted by Adalwolf View Post
    No. As already said, it was a term first used by our enemies (bolshevists, marxists, democrats) in the November Republic, when the Kampfzeit -- the struggle for Germany -- began. After Adolf Hitler came to power, the enemies of the German people fled the country to spread their hatred for the National Socialist revolution across the world.

    The correct German word is Nationalsozialist, in English National Socialist, short NS. The 'Nazi' word clearly carries with it an adverse tone.
    Correct. The original members of the NSDAP never referred to themselves as "Nazis," that was left for the enemy. Now-days if you want to offend and discredit someone and bring images of death and concentration camps you call them a Nazi.

    I am not a Nazi, I am a National-Socialist. I abhor the term "Nazi." The term "Nazi" was and is a pejorative not created by us. It come about by the Jews and Reds referring to us in an argot manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    Correct. The original members of the NSDAP never referred to themselves as "Nazis,"


    Are you trying to say that Joseph Goebbels was not an original member of the NSDAP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    Now-days if you want to offend and discredit someone and bring images of death and concentration camps you call them a Nazi.
    Or you could call them a national socialist.

    Are you trying to say that Jews and reds cant just as easily say that national socialists had gas showers etc? That they couldnt say that the NSDAP had gas showers?

    You do know that Nazi is an abbreviation of national socialist dont you, that they are two interchangeable names for the same thing and that they refer each to the same entity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    Now-days if you want to offend and discredit someone and bring images of death and concentration camps you call them a Nazi.
    No real national socialist would ever allow himself to be associated with images of death.



    Neither has any _national socialist_ EVER even been ACCUSED of association with holohoaxes!

    Do you seriously think that running away from a name is going to make any difference? Do you imagine that they are going to stop calling you names and telling lies about you if you say that you are a national socialist? You seem to wish to construct a word world where all your enemies stop saying nasty things about you and disappear. Its not like that - and it isnt going to be like that because the world just isnt like that.

    Its not the name that they dislike it is your ideology and push come to shove your existence. You have a mortal enemy and it will do you no good whatsoever to change your name. He still knows who you are and he still knows what to hit you with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    Now-days if you want to offend and discredit someone and bring images of death and concentration camps you call them a Nazi.
    You seem to care about images of death as a rhetorical swinger, hence your avatar of communism and death. Im not so sure that people care about it as much as you imagine.

    It says in the Bible that Jesus will come back for a second showing and that he will slaughter everyone who doesnt worship him and send all of the unbelievers into fiery hell to be tormented for all eternity. That is far worse than anything that the Nazis have been accused of.

    Have people been repulsed by Jesus or has he been hailed as a saint and even as god for much of the last 2000 years?

    "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:14,15.

    Obviously christianity did not survive with its images of death.

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    Hitler never called his party Nazi(s)? It was made up by Jews? I never knew this. For know on, Nazi is connected with those Jewry.

    National socialist(lism) was the only term for Hitler's party.

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    Wow, four posts to reply to my one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    You seem to care about images of death as a rhetorical swinger
    And you seem happy to have a bunch of Jews create the terminology for you.

    You have a mortal enemy and it will do you no good whatsoever to change your name.
    I'm not changing anything. I'm using the original!

    It says in the Bible....
    I stopped reading here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    And you seem happy to have a bunch of Jews create the terminology for you.
    Where is your proof that Jews made up the word Nazi?

    Nazi was a common affectionate pet name in southern Germany, derived from Ignatius. It is a pet name like Petey or Mickey. Nazi was generally used in northern Germany as an affectionate term for German soldiers in the Austro-Hungarian Empire during WWI. Its like Tommy for British soldiers. After WWI, many of those same soldiers joined the free nationalist forces who defeated the communist revolutionaries and they then joined the Nazi party. The term Nazi was commonly used in the south for Nazis by Nazis and communists because of the soldier association and because Nazi functions well as an abbreviation of national socialist and as parallel with Sozi for socialist. Indeed, Nazi had been used as an abbreviation of national socialist since the turn of the century.

    Yet you claim that the "jews invented the name". You seem to have withdrawn all of your other claims, that Nazis never used the name Nazis, that it is "evil sounding", that NS should worry overly about being associated with "images of death". (Goebbels, SS etc.)

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    Nationalsozialistische

    Etymology

    The full name of Adolf Hitler's party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The acronym Nazi was formed from the first syllable of NAtional and the second syllable of SoZIalist. Such acronyms, usually formed from the initial letters or syllables of successive parts of compound names, were popular in the Third Reich. Another such example was Gestapo for GEheime STAatsPOlizei (Secret State-Police)."*

    * L. L. Snyder, Encyclopedia Of The Third Reich, Wordsworth Editions Ltd, 1998, p. 245

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Etymology

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    The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: About this sound Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (help·info), abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English in short form as the Nazi Party, was a political party in Germany between 1920 and 1945
    Nazi is the English nick name for Hitler's party. Don't know weather Jews had something to do with 'Nazi' as a nick name in Britain.

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