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    Quote Originally Posted by Krähe View Post
    "If we National Socialists have to refer to ourselves as "Nazi" we are truly in the company of idiots'" ~ Some Haight guy from Stormfront.

    Try find an example of a Marxist/Communist party that calls itself the 'Commie Party'. But you are right, 'nazi' is just the vernacular, albeit derogatory, like 'faggot' to 'homosexual'.
    I dont see "Nazi" as derogatory. I support all the stuff that liberals think stigmatises NS - eugenics, racism, militarism, conquest. I like the term Nazi and it perfectly sums up what I support. I wont concede Nazism as a bad word and I wont concede that the Nazis were wrong in what they did.

    "National Socialism" is more vague and it is even anachronistic because it emphasises the socialism that was popular with the communists of the time. But Im not saying that I am against the use of the term, I often use it myself, and I certainly wouldnt call comrades "idiots". I respect my comrades as becomes every loyal NS.

    I dont know why Americans seem to assume that Nazi is a bad word. Likely they are not comfortable with the ideological associations or they are just easily intimidated.

    We dont see Tories, complaining about being called that. Nazi isnt constructed the same way as "commie", that would be "nati" or "nashi". The ring of Nazi in English is much closer to "Tory" than "commie". It is pronounced with a long aa and a soft Z, akin to "nartsi". The word has a pleasant sound and feel.

    "Nazi" is elegant and punchy imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Schnadelbach View Post
    GM, thank you for the download link. Does anybody know where it can be downloaded in the original german?
    Here.

    http://www.radioislam.org/islam/deutsch/deutsch.htm

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    There are some nice pdf editions of Mein Kampf on the archive.org site.


    http://archive.org/details/Hitler-Adolf-Mein-Kampf

    German 1936 edition


    http://archive.org/details/Hitler-Adolf-Mein-Kampf-Text

    German 1943 edition


    http://archive.org/details/1936-Adol...f-Band-1-und-2

    German audio book of Mein Kampf


    http://archive.org/details/MeinKampf_483

    English translation by James Murphy 1939


    http://archive.org/details/AdolfHitl...teAudioBookMp3

    English audio book, James Murphy translation (volume 1 only)


    http://archive.org/details/MeinKampf...aligeBewerking

    Dutch translation

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    There's another aspect of National Socialism that is overlooked too often: its deep connection to Germany.
    NS is a folk movement born out of the deep injustices Germany has been subjected to for centuries, it's a weapon with which to correct all the wrongs endured by the German nation. Under NS rule all Germanic people are reunited in a single powerful Reich. It eliminates all alien influences from the German sphere of influence, freeing the folk from the perversions of Judea & Christianity. These were the absolute goals of the The Third Reich. Germany is the heart of our civilization & as an Anglo-Saxon my old fatherland.

    This touches upon the most sensitive topic, nationalism amongst Germany's neighbours within Europe: powerful European nation states can NEVER live peacefully alongside each other, there are millenia old border disputes which prevent any future peace between us. Adding to the problem is fact that in this post industrial revolution society our economies require far more resources, this will cause a struggle for energy & food.

    That is why in theory I don't disagree with the EU, I believe it prevents any outbreak of regional chauvinism, momentarily at least. Although in practice it is ultimately doomed, an illusion of Marxist utopia. The day the world's industrial output cannot match the demand due to overpopulation & our debt becomes unsustainable is the day the collective **** hits the fan.

    Nationalism will cause a war, National Socialism will create peace amongst Germanic folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krähe View Post
    "If we National Socialists have to refer to ourselves as "Nazi" we are truly in the company of idiots'" ~ Some Haight guy from Stormfront.
    That would be me. The quote is slightly different as this is the original:"If we National Socialists have to refer to ourselves as 'Nazis,' then we are truly in the company of idiots!"

    Nazi is a pejorative created by the Jews. If one reads the article I posted above you can see there is indeed a difference between those that identify as Nazi and those that identify as National-Socialist.

    I will not have my Weltanschauung defined by Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    I dont see "Nazi" as derogatory. I support all the stuff that liberals think stigmatises NS - eugenics, racism, militarism, conquest. I like the term Nazi and it perfectly sums up what I support. I wont concede Nazism as a bad word and I wont concede that the Nazis were wrong in what they did.

    "National Socialism" is more vague and it is even anachronistic because it emphasises the socialism that was popular with the communists of the time. But Im not saying that I am against the use of the term, I often use it myself, and I certainly wouldnt call comrades "idiots". I respect my comrades as becomes every loyal NS.

    I dont know why Americans seem to assume that Nazi is a bad word. Likely they are not comfortable with the ideological associations or they are just easily intimidated.

    We dont see Tories, complaining about being called that. Nazi isnt constructed the same way as "commie", that would be "nati" or "nashi". The ring of Nazi in English is much closer to "Tory" than "commie". It is pronounced with a long aa and a soft Z, akin to "nartsi". The word has a pleasant sound and feel.

    "Nazi" is elegant and punchy imo.
    Oh wow, thanks, I had no idea how to pronounce the word 'Nazi'.

    But, by the way you are wrong in explaining the pronunciation. National is not pronounced 'Na-ti-o-nal' or 'Na-shi-o-nal' in German. It is pronounced 'Na-zi-o-nal'. Like the word 'Potential'. The T is pronounced the same as a German Z, which is a 'tz' combination, like what one would hear in Chinese.

    Thus, if the word were shortened for Vulgar usage, it would be spelled and pronounced 'Nazi'. Is it that much of a mystery why someone with the name 'Barry' would be nicknamed 'Bazza', for a similar comparison?

    Using the word 'Nazi' to describe one's self would imply you were using it in a jocular manner, or one is simply retarded. It makes me cringe to see that Rockwell called his party the 'Nazi Party'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    Nazi is a pejorative created by the Jews. If one reads the article I posted above you can see there is indeed a difference between those that identify as Nazi and those that identify as National-Socialist.

    I will not have my Weltanschauung defined by Jews.
    What part of NS weltanschauung do you think the Jews defined?

    Eugenics, racism, militarism, anti-semitism, lebensraum, authoritarianism, social darwinism, Germanic supremacism?

    I suggest that we get to the heart of the matter by reviewing the writings of Hitler. No ad hominems, no rudeness, no prosey essays, just polite and clear analysis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krähe View Post
    But, by the way you are wrong in explaining the pronunciation. National is not pronounced 'Na-ti-o-nal' or 'Na-shi-o-nal' in German. It is pronounced 'Na-zi-o-nal'. Like the word 'Potential'. The T is pronounced the same as a German Z, which is a 'tz' combination, like what one would hear in Chinese.
    The zi in Nazi doesnt come from national, it comes from socialist. The Social Democrats were known as Sozis and NS became known as Nazis, not to mean nationalists but to mean National Socialists. They are the same thing.

    Think what you like of the term, it has stuck and it isnt going away. Its something that we have to live with and personally I dont mind at all, Im not heavily into socialism and I quite like the term Nazi, its elegant and punchy. Believe me, no one that I know or encounter, comrade or enemy, would have any different opinion of NS because of the term.

    If you personally dont like the term Nazi then dont use it, no problem. It shouldnt be the cause of hysterical abuse and arguments among comrades. Surely we have enough enemies without turning on each other.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    The zi in Nazi doesnt come from national, it comes from socialist. The Social Democrats were known as Sozis and NS became known as Nazis, not to mean nationalists but to mean National Socialists. They are the same thing.

    Think what you like of the term, it has stuck and it isnt going away. Its something that we have to live with and personally I dont mind at all, Im not heavily into socialism and I quite like the term Nazi, its elegant and punchy. Believe me, no one that I know or encounter, comrade or enemy, would have any different opinion of NS because of the term.

    If you personally dont like the term Nazi then dont use it, no problem. It shouldnt be the cause of hysterical abuse and arguments among comrades. Surely we have enough enemies without turning on each other.

    Cheers
    I am pulling your leg.

    I don't mind, personally I don't even use the term National Socialist. Most because I despise any form of socialism, even if it can be said the the title needn't be associated with Marx.

    Germania Magna,

    I think the real label that we should separate ourselves from is 'Neo-Nazi'. I have no idea what is neo about us. Neo-nazism to me just seems to be an ideology for thugs and 'Hollywood Nazis'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germania Magna View Post
    The zi in Nazi doesnt come from national, it comes from socialist. The Social Democrats were known as Sozis and NS became known as Nazis, not to mean nationalists but to mean National Socialists. They are the same thing.

    Think what you like of the term, it has stuck and it isnt going away. Its something that we have to live with and personally I dont mind at all, Im not heavily into socialism and I quite like the term Nazi, its elegant and punchy. Believe me, no one that I know or encounter, comrade or enemy, would have any different opinion of NS because of the term.

    If you personally dont like the term Nazi then dont use it, no problem. It shouldnt be the cause of hysterical abuse and arguments among comrades. Surely we have enough enemies without turning on each other.

    Cheers
    Actually the "zi" in "Nazi" does come from "National" as when you say "National" in German is sounds like "Nah-tzee-on-ahl." That is where the term "Nazi" came from. It's just the first half of "National" said in German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfaz View Post
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    Das Recht und die Gerechtigkeit haben nur selten miteinander etwas zu tun. Höchstens machen sie winki winki wenn sie aneinander vorbei gehen.
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