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    Question America's Rank Hypocrisy: Why Is It Only an "Atrocity" When Other Countries Do It?

    How America's worst crimes are ignored, while "we" lecture others on human rights.




    In his penetrating study “Ideal Illusions: How the U.S. Government Co-Opted Human Rights,” international affairs scholar James Peck observes, “In the history of human rights, the worst atrocities are always committed by somebody else, never us” – whoever “us” is. Almost any moment in history yields innumerable illustrations. Let’s keep to the past few weeks.

    On May 10, the Summer Olympics were inaugurated at the Greek birthplace of the ancient games. A few days before, virtually unnoticed, the government of Vietnam addressed a letter to the International Olympic Committee expressing the “profound concerns of the Government and people of Viet Nam about the decision of IOC to accept the Dow Chemical Company as a global partner sponsoring the Olympic Movement.” Dow provided the chemicals that Washington used from 1961 onward to destroy crops and forests in South Vietnam, drenching the country with Agent Orange.

    These poisons contain dioxin, one of the most lethal carcinogens known, affecting millions of Vietnamese and many U.S. soldiers. To this day in Vietnam, aborted fetuses and deformed infants are very likely the effects of these crimes – though, in light of Washington’s refusal to investigate, we have only the studies of Vietnamese scientists and independent analysts. Joining the Vietnamese appeal against Dow are the government of India, the Indian Olympic Association, and the survivors of the horrendous 1984 Bhopal gas leak, one of history’s worst industrial disasters, which killed thousands and injured more than half a million.




    Union Carbide, the corporation responsible for the disaster, was taken over by Dow, for whom the matter is of no slight concern. In February, Wikileaks revealed that Dow hired the U.S. private investigative agency Stratfor to monitor activists seeking compensation for the victims and prosecution of those responsible.




    Results of Agent Orange used in the Vietnam Holocaust (effects lasting to this day)

    Click here for more - if you dare


    Another major crime with very serious persisting effects is the Marine assault on the Iraqi city of Fallujah in November 2004.
    Women and children were permitted to escape if they could. After several weeks of bombing, the attack opened with a carefully planned war crime: invasion of the Fallujah General Hospital, where patients and staff were ordered to the floor, their hands tied. Soon the bonds were loosened; the compound was secure. The official justification was that the hospital was reporting civilian casualties, and therefore was considered a propaganda weapon.

    Much of the city was left in “smoking ruins,” the press reported while the Marines sought out insurgents in their “warrens.” The invaders barred entry to the Red Crescent relief organization. Absent an official inquiry, the scale of the crimes is unknown. If the Fallujah events are reminiscent of the events that took place in the Bosnian enclave of Srebrenica, now again in the news with the genocide trial of Bosnian Serb military commander Ratko Mladic, there’s a good reason. An honest comparison would be instructive, but there’s no fear of that: One is an atrocity, the other not, by definition.



    Massacre of Fallujah


    As in Vietnam, independent investigators are reporting long-term effects of the Fallujah assault. Medical researchers have found dramatic increases in infant mortality, cancer and leukemia, even higher than Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Uranium levels in hair and soil samples are far beyond comparable cases. One of the rare investigators from the invading countries is Dr. Kypros Nicolaides, director of the fetal-medicine research center at London’s King’s College Hospital. “I’m sure the Americans used weapons that caused these deformities,” Nicolaides says. The lingering effects of a vastly greater nonatrocity were reported last month by U.S. law professor James Anaya, the U.N. rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples.



    Deformed children following the use of Depleted Uranium ammunition
    (just as deadly for US soldiers and their children-to-be...)


    Anaya dared to tread on forbidden territory by investigating the shocking conditions among the remnants of the Native American population in the U.S. – “poverty, poor health conditions, lack of attainment of formal education (and) social ills at rates that far exceed those of other segments of the American population,” Anaya reported. No member of Congress was willing to meet him. Press coverage was minimal.

    Dissidents have been much in the news after the dramatic rescue of the blind Chinese civil-rights activist Chen Guangcheng. “The international commotion,” Samuel Moyn wrote in The New York Times last month, “aroused memories of earlier dissidents like Andrei D. Sakharov and Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, the Eastern bloc heroes of another age who first made ‘international human rights’ a rallying cry for activists across the globe and a high-profile item on Western governments’ agendas.”

    [...] In the “Cambridge History of the Cold War,” John Coatsworth recalls that from 1960 to “the Soviet collapse in 1990, the numbers of political prisoners, torture victims, and executions of nonviolent political dissenters in Latin America vastly exceeded those in the Soviet Union and its East European satellites.” But being nonatrocities, these crimes, substantially traceable to U.S. intervention, didn’t inspire a human-rights crusade.

    There is no shortage of heroic dissidents within the domains of U.S. influence and power, but they are as invisible as the Latin American victims. Looking almost at random around the world, we find Abdulhadi al-Khawaja, co-founder of the Bahrain Center for Human Rights, an Amnesty International prisoner of conscience, now facing death in prison from a long hunger strike.

    And [Human Rights Prize Winner] Father Mun Jeong-hyeon, the elderly Korean priest who was severely injured while holding mass as part of the protest against the construction of a U.S. naval base on Jeju Island, named an Island of Peace, now occupied by security forces for the first time since the 1948 massacres by the U.S.-imposed South Korean government.

    And Turkish scholar Ismail Besikci, facing trial again for defending the rights of Kurds. He already has spent much of his life in prison on the same charge, including the 1990s, when the Clinton administration was providing Turkey with huge quantities of military aid – at a time when the Turkish military perpetrated some of the period’s worst atrocities. But these instances are all nonexistent, on standard principles, along with others too numerous to mention.


    About the Author: Noam Chomsky's most recent book is ''Occupy.'' Chomsky is emeritus professor of linguistics and philosophy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge, Mass.

    Source: AlterNet (an alternative source of independent, unbiaised information)

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    Well, Israel and the American Jews at the center of power here are hypocrites in the same exact way, only worse, yet do you think for one second that the slippery Jewish cultural marxist known as Noam Chomsky would EVER write such an article about the Jews or Israel? Do you think he would write about the hypocrisy of crying about the imaginary "holocaust" while gloating about how many German towns had been wiped off the map, or how many women and children had been burned alive in Dresden and Hamburg? No, such Jewish hypocrisy is even more profoundly OFF LIMITS TO DISCUSSION. So much so that you are imprisoned in some countries if you do it.

    So, amusingly, in talking about hypocrisy, Chomsky really makes himself a hypocrite.
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    None of us have our hands clean....I guess that is the lesson to be learned. Cherry picking attrocities commited by a people is really silly and shows intellectual dishonesty. How many people on this forum have actually been in a combat zone let alone received enemy fire? (I raise my hand) Unless one has been there and "done that" it is all just B.S. abstract thinking!

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    Similar articles could be written about any country that attains power through war.

    The victors write the history.

    If we throw a spear at the enemy it may be thrown back at us. 100 years from now a child may step on it and cut their foot. Or what if we miss and hit the non combatant behind them?

    Weapons are more powerful now, and their effect greater and longer lasting.

    I served in the US Army overseas(06-07 Iraq). We were far to nice to the enemy, they laughed at us while we ate with them. We were the nicest, most accommodating enemy that they could have had, with them still losing the physical fight.


    While I agree that America started on the wrong path over 100 years ago, I would rather raise my family here than in present day Europe. We will again become an stable agrarian society, whether we want to or not.
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    I can understand people getting fed up with sanctimonious and self-righteous moralising and speechifying that issues forth from American politicians, but let's keep it in perspective. The United States, for example, didn't wipe out 9 million Ukrainians by forced famine or destroy a whole class of millions people simply because they didn't fit an ideology. The US can and does muck it up at times, but then all countries do. Had there been no First and Second World Wars, for instance, where English-speaking Germanic peoples were made to wage on war on Germany, a brother Germanic nation, I am quite convinced that the Germanic peoples of Northern Europe, North America, Southern Africa, and Australasia would not be in the ungodly mess that we find ourselves now: our numbers dwindling and being invaded by peoples of completely alien races and cultures. The two fratricidal wars against Germany in the 20th century were examples of catastrophic mistakes that had catastrophic effects on all Germanic nations--and still do.

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    As far as atrocities go, why did the germans get prosecuted by the americans for shooting american prisoners at Malmedy who had panicked and started running away which panicked the rest of the prisoners who ALL started running away and most of whom got shot, but the americans who "liberated" Dachau lined up the guards who were not trying to get away and shot them in cold blood and no one suffered any public consequences?

    It's very simple. Americans have a special dispensation from Jehovah. America can do no wrong. (So long as it licks the boots of Jehovah's special friends on earth, the hebrews at least.)
    Das Recht und die Gerechtigkeit haben nur selten miteinander etwas zu tun. Höchstens machen sie winki winki wenn sie aneinander vorbei gehen.
    The Law and Justice have only seldom anything to do with one another. At the most they wave at each other when they pass one another on the street.
    Niemals vergessen. Niemals vergeben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Schnadelbach View Post
    As far as atrocities go, why did the germans get prosecuted by the americans for shooting american prisoners at Malmedy who had panicked and started running away which panicked the rest of the prisoners who ALL started running away and most of whom got shot, but the americans who "liberated" Dachau lined up the guards who were not trying to get away and shot them in cold blood and no one suffered any public consequences?

    It's very simple. Americans have a special dispensation from Jehovah. America can do no wrong. (So long as it licks the boots of Jehovah's special friends on earth, the hebrews at least.)
    Allied atrocities against German soldiers, such as shooting German soldiers out of hand after they had surrendered to Allied troops, were never prosecuted because the Allies won the war and so they could and did impose their form of very hypocritical "justice" on German military and political personnel. The double standard inherent in victors' "justice" is plain to see and Germany was made to suffer the Allies' full spite and vindictiveness in the Allies' application of victors' "justice".

    There is only one party that would encourage and help fuel such spite and vindictiveness towards Germany and the Germans, and that party is of course the Jews who were always influencing and at times controlling the Allies' actions. The Jews declared war on Germany and that war didn't end in 1945 with Germany's surrender--it goes on to this very day.

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    All I can say is to this day, the USSA Armed Farce is a serious security issue for not only Americans but the entire world.

    Many of them should be brought to Justice by other Americans and this Justice should be swift, and complete. We have the laws but we do not have the will at current.

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    Ingvaeonic, you DO understand that I was saying what lots of americans believe in my post to which you responded? You are correct in your assessment, it was "victor's justice". I would hate for you or anyone to think that I believed that america really has a deal with Jehovah. But lots of americans really do believe that america can do no wrong as long as they are junior partner to Israel, since the Bible says "Numbers 24:9 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
    He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion: who shall stir him up? Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee."

    Jehovah is talking to the jews in that quotation.


    BTW, I do not worhip Jehovah.
    Das Recht und die Gerechtigkeit haben nur selten miteinander etwas zu tun. Höchstens machen sie winki winki wenn sie aneinander vorbei gehen.
    The Law and Justice have only seldom anything to do with one another. At the most they wave at each other when they pass one another on the street.
    Niemals vergessen. Niemals vergeben.

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    Yes, I do naturally realise you were writing figuratively in referring to Jehovah.

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