Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 16

Thread: The White Migration and Lost Settlement in Asia

  1. #1
    Senior Member SS Charlemagne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Last Online
    Wednesday, October 18th, 2006 @ 07:44 PM
    Subrace
    Nordid
    Country
    France France
    Location
    FRANCE
    Gender
    Occupation
    student
    Politics
    National-Socialism
    Religion
    catholic
    Posts
    60
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Post The White Migration and Lost Settlement in Asia

    THE TOCHARIANS - THE GREAT LOST WHITE CIVILIZATION IN CHINA

    One of the furthermost eastern migrations of Celtic peoples - Indo-European Nordics - reached the Takla Makan desert (situated between Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tibet) in China around 1500 BC.

    This great migration was unknown until the 1977 AD discovery of 3500-year-old graves of these people. As a result of the natural dryness of the environment, many of the corpses are almost perfectly preserved, with their reddish-blond hair, long noses, round eyes and finely woven tartan clothing (usually associated with the Celts in Scotland), showing undeniably White racial traits.

    The Tocharians: the Great Lost White migration to China.

    The Chinese civilization always contained stories of blue-eyed and blonde-haired leaders who were the originators of Buddhism and who were the first leaders and organizers of Chinese society. These stories were always regarded as pure legend until the 1977 discovery of the graveyards of the Tocharians in the Takla Makan desert in China. The Tocharian mummies - naturally preserved in the dry desert sands are unequivocally clear Nordic racial types. The graveyards lie near the ruins of the great Tocharian cities, built along the famous Silk Route. It is beyond doubt that Whites settled in China, and the Chinese legends of White influence on that civilization may yet have some basis in fact

    The first Tocharian Nordic mummy to be found: a White female with long blond hair, finely preserved by the arid desert atmosphere of the Takla Makan desert.

    These people have become known by the language which they spoke: Tocharian. The civilization which they built consisted of great cities, temples, centers of learning and art - they were also the builders and maintainers of the original Silk Road - the path for trade between the West and China itself.

    It was originally thought that the Chinese built the great cities along the Silk Road, but the discovery of the remains of the original people of this region now shows that the impressive ruins which still lie, undisturbed, along that road, are the remains of a great lost White civilization.

    The first White mummy in the region was discovered by accident in 1977 after shifting sands uncovered a female corpse whose body had been mutilated, presumably in some act of war.

    Excavation around her corpse uncovered a further 16 mummies, so perfectly preserved by the desert that traces of tears were found on the face of a mummified infant. Fully dressed bodies have been found wearing finely woven woolen textiles with Celtic patterns, leather shoes and jewelry. The desert conditions proved so exceptional that even pieces of bread used as offerings were preserved intact alongside what is the world's oldest saddle.

    In one grave, excavators discovered a saddle cover and a pair of trousers with drawings of humans on one leg - one face had blue eyes.



    Tocharian mummies reveal Indo-European origins of early Chinese Civilization








    A Tocharian female mummy with long flaxen blond hair, perfectly preserved in ponytails. Items of weaved material, identical to Celtic cloth, definitively proved the Indo-European origins of the Tocharians, who not only built the fantastic Silk Road cities which today lie deserted, but who are also credited with bringing Buddhism, horses, the saddle, and iron working to China. Chinese legend maintains that the first Chinese emperors - who brought unity and civilization to China - had fair or blue eyes. This legend can now be confirmed as fact.

    Tocharian Woman


    a swastika decoration found on a clay bowl recovered from the Tocharian grave sites. The swastika was part of the original Indo-European language, meaning "well being" and the fact that the swastika is today widespread in China as a good luck charm is an indication of just how far the Tocharian influence was felt throughout that country.

    CHINESE EMPERORS WITH BLUE AND GREEN EYES

    The new finds are forcing a re-examination of old Chinese books that describe historical or legendary figures of great height, with deep-set blue or green eyes, long noses, full beards, and red or blond hair. Scholars have traditionally scoffed at these accounts, but it now transpires that these accounts were correct.

    One of these accounts can be found in the song to the great general Lü by the Chinese poet Li He (circa 790-816 AD) in his "Romance of the Three Kingdoms " :



    Song: General Lü




    General Lü,

    The valiant-hearted,
    Riding alone on Scarlet Hare,
    Out of the gates of Ch'in,
    To weep at Gold Grain Mound
    By funeral trees.


    Inscrutable that vaulted azure,

    Arching over earth,
    This is the way the world wags
    In our Nine Provinces.
    Gleaming ore from Scarlet Hill!
    Hero of our time!
    Green-eyed general, you well know
    The will of Heaven!


    (Emphasis added. Translationfrom Goddesses, Ghosts, and Demons -- The Collected Poems of Li He (790 - 816), Translated by J.D. Frodsham, North Point Press, San Fransisco, 1983).







    While it is unknown as to what the exact influence these Whites had upon the Chinese civilization, it has been the subject of speculation - based upon old Buddhist manuscripts - that the tenets of the Buddhist religion may have been brought to the Far East by these Tocharian Celts.

    The existence of the Tocharians may also explain another great mystery of China: the existence of step pyramids near the city of Xian in Qui Chan province. These pyramids are without precedent in China but which were common to White civilizations
    THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE TOCHARIANS

    With the advent of time, these White peoples mixed with Mongolian tribes surrounding them, and so in this way vanished - but the physical features of the people living in this part of China show very clearly part White and part Mongol traits - and differ substantially from other inhabitants of China, with blond hair not being unknown amongst them.

    Once again, these present day physical features are the living proof of yet another great lost White migration. Thus it was that the White civilization of China vanished through racial mixing. Only the crumbling ruins of their cities and their corpses remain as silent witnesses of their era

    This 900 AD painting from the caves at the Buddhist monastery at Bezeklik, Turfnan, Central Asia, depicts Tocharian worthies donating trays of moneybags to a Buddhist saint. Note the light hair and blue eyes of the Tocharian on the right, the last remnants of the Indo-European invaders of China.
    THE AINU IN JAPAN

    The Ainu are most commonly called an aboriginal people of Japan, occupying parts of the Japanese island of Hokkaido and the Russian islands of the Kurils and Sakhalin (which used to be Japanese territory).

    The most striking thing about the Ainu is that they differ still to this day physically and linguistically from the rest of the Japanese population.

    Although full blooded Ainu are scarce due to a large amount of intermarriage, the Ainu display in fact distinct traces of White ancestry - typical Ainu have a long skull, a light complexion, a heavy beard (facial hair is virtually unknown amongst the pure Mongolian races) and thick, wavy hair. The Ainu are famous amongst the Japanese for having body hair as well - so that they are derogatively called the "hairy Ainu". Only one other race on earth possesses body hair to this extent - the White Race.

    JAPAN'S LOST WHITE TRIBE: THE AINU

    Below: The Ainu - or White - racial influence is very evident in the Japanese upper classes: Below is a comparison of Ainu descended Japanese nobles with a "pure" Japanese Yayoi racial type which makes the distinction obvious

    Ainu ancestry
    Ainu ancestry
    Ainu ancestry
    Yayoi (Mongol) Ancestry







    The Ainu language is unique, and not related to Japanese or any other Asian language. The origins of the Ainu are obscure. They appear to have entered Japan through the Hokkaido Island in the Yayoi Period (300 BC to 250 AD) of Japanese history, and migrated also into the northern and eastern parts of Japan's main island Honshu.

    As the rulers of Yamato Japan started to expand their territory eastwards around 500 AD, the Ainu were constantly displaced to the north or mixed with the Japanese. In the Meiji Period (1868-1912) they received the status of Former Aboriginals but were strongly discriminated against. The Ainu were first mentioned in a Japanese account in 642 AD, and they were first reported in Europe in 1586.

    The American anthropologist C. Loring Brace, University of Michigan, (Science Frontiers #65, Sep-Oct 1989) reported that "pure-blooded Ainu are easy to spot: they have lighter skin, more body hair, and higher-bridged noses than most Japanese." Brace studied the skeletons of about 1100 Japanese, Ainu, and other Asian ethnic groups and has concluded that the revered samurai of Japan are actually descendants of the Ainu, not of the Yayoi (original Mongolian) from whom most modern Japanese are descended. Brace said further that "...this explains why the facial features of the Japanese ruling class are so often unlike those of typical modern Japanese. The Ainu-related samurai achieved such power and prestige in medieval Japan that they intermarried with royalty and nobility, passing on Ainu blood in the upper classes, while other Japanese were primarily descended from the Yayoi






    Leaving the Black Sea Basin, the Nordic Indo-European peoples invaded Europe and Asia. Europe was settled by four main groups: the Celts, the Germans, the Balts and the Slavs. In the south they settled pre-dynastic Egypt and the Middle East, penetrating India (the Indo-Aryans); Afghanistan (the Aryans); China (the Tocharians) and Japan (the Ainu) - See chapter six. The difference between the western and eastern migrations of the Indo-Europeans was that in the west they mixed with genetically similar populations - while in the east they mixed with, and were eventually submerged by, genetically dissimilar peoples.






    Last edited by SS Charlemagne; Thursday, July 15th, 2004 at 09:44 PM.
    http://membres.lycos.fr/histoiredefr...eWaffenSS2.jpg
    "We will not capitulate - no, never! We may be destroyed, but if we are, we shall drag a world with us - a world in flames."
    Adolf Hitler

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.
    Si tu veux la paix, prépare la guerre

  2. #2
    Member Awar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Last Online
    Friday, October 21st, 2005 @ 11:04 PM
    Subrace
    Corded/Balkanoid UP
    Country
    Confederate States Confederate States
    Location
    Olympus
    Gender
    Age
    40
    Politics
    Nutzi
    Religion
    Agnostic!!!
    Posts
    4,947
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    6
    Thanked in
    6 Posts

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia

    Tocharians and Ainus have nothing to do with eachother.
    Tocharian migration is relatively recent compared to the Ainus.
    In any case, Ainus are not Europoids/Europeans, they never were.
    Even if they once resembled modern Europeans, they still were worlds apart when it comes to race.

    All this Kemp's mumbo-jumbo largely is a bunch of lies.
    He lies and fabricates, and then inserts a pinch of truth, just so it can seem more plausible. Aryan invasions and Tocharian migrations did exist, but, to credit all the culture of the east to these peoples is ridiculous.

  3. #3
    You are not wrong, who deem / That my days have been a dream Johannes de León's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Last Online
    Sunday, April 15th, 2012 @ 11:03 AM
    Ethnicity
    Iberian
    Subrace
    Atlanto-Baskid
    Location
    Terra Firma
    Gender
    Politics
    Nationalism
    Posts
    1,477
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia

    I don't think that posting Kemp's pseudo-historic articles here is of any relevance. First i think more than 75% of this board's members are aware of it, second because at least 80% of the ones that are aware of it know that those articles are false.
    .

  4. #4
    Senior Member SS Charlemagne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Last Online
    Wednesday, October 18th, 2006 @ 07:44 PM
    Subrace
    Nordid
    Country
    France France
    Location
    FRANCE
    Gender
    Occupation
    student
    Politics
    National-Socialism
    Religion
    catholic
    Posts
    60
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia

    Kemp lie in many of his article but about this i don't think that it's fasle , it's why i had posting this.

    It's in fact , aryan migrat in Asia and there are again some trace of white civilization in Asia.
    Look the swastika , an pan-aryan symbol.
    How do you explain that there are so many swastika in asia ?
    For me it's evident it's a proof of the aryan presence in Asia before.



    in each swastika it's a presence of Aryan civilization.
    All great civilization are represented :
    Roman empire and greek empire in europe
    Mayas in south america
    Persian empire
    Chinese dynasty
    Egytians dynasty

    Mark devin also evocated the white migration in Asia :
    http://natall.com/national-vanguard/117/aryans.html
    http://library.flawlesslogic.com/china.htm
    http://www.aryanunity.com/natfront/china.html
    So, it's always lie for you ??
    Last edited by SS Charlemagne; Friday, July 16th, 2004 at 05:14 PM.
    http://membres.lycos.fr/histoiredefr...eWaffenSS2.jpg
    "We will not capitulate - no, never! We may be destroyed, but if we are, we shall drag a world with us - a world in flames."
    Adolf Hitler

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.
    Si tu veux la paix, prépare la guerre

  5. #5
    You are not wrong, who deem / That my days have been a dream Johannes de León's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Last Online
    Sunday, April 15th, 2012 @ 11:03 AM
    Ethnicity
    Iberian
    Subrace
    Atlanto-Baskid
    Location
    Terra Firma
    Gender
    Politics
    Nationalism
    Posts
    1,477
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia

    Quote Originally Posted by SS Charlemagne
    How do you explain that there are so many swastika in asia ?
    So, it's always lie for you ??
    Kemp's texts are indeed, there are inumerous other sources about what he writes, and thanks for pointing out the other ones.
    Still i prefer to read more unbiased sources.

    http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=11558
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=11658
    .

  6. #6
    Member Awar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Last Online
    Friday, October 21st, 2005 @ 11:04 PM
    Subrace
    Corded/Balkanoid UP
    Country
    Confederate States Confederate States
    Location
    Olympus
    Gender
    Age
    40
    Politics
    Nutzi
    Religion
    Agnostic!!!
    Posts
    4,947
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    6
    Thanked in
    6 Posts

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia

    Umm, the swastika may be an Aryan symbol, but it's not exactly 'trade-mark'...
    It's not that extraordinary that such a simple ( yet, impressive ) symbol be found in many different places.

    There are many other symbols which appear in distant, unrelated civilizations at the same time. The star of David appears in early medieval Northern Europe, Japan and of course, among Jews.

    I think that the fact that China always preceeded Europe in all earlier inventions, and that nowadays, east-Asians have higher national IQ than Europeans speaks a lot about their ability to produce civilization by themselves.

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Last Online
    Thursday, June 29th, 2006 @ 07:07 PM
    Subrace
    Irano-Afghan/Corded
    Gender
    Age
    36
    Politics
    Pan-Aryan
    Religion
    Zoroastrian
    Posts
    449
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia

    LOL! I must really laugh about this Arthur Kemp. Btw his first name is Iranian->Arthur very Nordish!
    But again back to this stuff. The Tocharians are descriped by the Iranians as Turs when I am not wrong. The Tugri/Gutis one of the ancestors of today Iranians were Tocharians, this is also why the Kurds have Tocharian language elements. I also don`t think that we should plase the Tocharian to Kurgan. I think they come from southern Central Asia. One group of them the Tugri/Guti also called Turanians go weast(today Kurdistan) and the other group go east.
    We have enough proofs for this, and I read many stuff about this matter.
    Also what is laughable are the so called Nordish look of these Tocharians.
    The only thing I saw of these were their oversalted hairs which reacted with the salt and make after this time a white/yellow hair. Also I read that they are dolichocephalic, high-headed and hook-nosed.
    We can say they are IEs but which group we can not say with 100% sure.
    Also not every tribe in China is Tocharian. There were serval Iranian colonies in China and the most mumies we found in China are of Iranian origin.
    But sure we can say that the Koreans, Japanese have a Caucasoid origin.


  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Last Online
    Thursday, June 29th, 2006 @ 07:07 PM
    Subrace
    Irano-Afghan/Corded
    Gender
    Age
    36
    Politics
    Pan-Aryan
    Religion
    Zoroastrian
    Posts
    449
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia



    This map I can explain without problems.
    The Swastikas in India are origin of the Indo-Iranians.
    The Swastikas in north Africa origin of the Iranian invaders.
    These of Europe of the IE invaders.
    These of China/Japan/Korea are of the serval Iranian colonies and the expansion of the Indo-Aryan religion of Buddhism.
    The Swastikas of America we can explain with the expansion of Caucasians maybe IEs who used it. So what you want say?

  9. #9
    Senior Member SS Charlemagne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Last Online
    Wednesday, October 18th, 2006 @ 07:44 PM
    Subrace
    Nordid
    Country
    France France
    Location
    FRANCE
    Gender
    Occupation
    student
    Politics
    National-Socialism
    Religion
    catholic
    Posts
    60
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia

    So what you want say?
    I want say that swastika in Asia are proof of some trace of Indo-Aryan civilisations.
    http://membres.lycos.fr/histoiredefr...eWaffenSS2.jpg
    "We will not capitulate - no, never! We may be destroyed, but if we are, we shall drag a world with us - a world in flames."
    Adolf Hitler

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.
    Si tu veux la paix, prépare la guerre

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Last Online
    Thursday, June 29th, 2006 @ 07:07 PM
    Subrace
    Irano-Afghan/Corded
    Gender
    Age
    36
    Politics
    Pan-Aryan
    Religion
    Zoroastrian
    Posts
    449
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts

    Post Re: the White migration and lost settlement in asia

    Quote Originally Posted by SS Charlemagne
    I want say that swastika in Asia are proof of some trace of Indo-Aryan civilisations.
    Not every is of Indo-Aryan but also of Iranian, Tocharian and other IE tribes.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 13
    Last Post: Sunday, August 21st, 2016, 12:45 AM
  2. DNA Study Suggests Asia Was Settled in Multiple Waves of Migration
    By Todesritter in forum Anthropogeny & Ethnogenesis
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Thursday, September 22nd, 2011, 07:07 PM
  3. Gonur-Depe: Central Asia's Lost Civilization
    By cosmocreator in forum Anthropogeny & Ethnogenesis
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: Wednesday, November 1st, 2006, 07:18 PM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: Monday, May 31st, 2004, 02:45 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •