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    There is not much room in Germanics as I see it, for feminism in it's modern form. Feminism is a distinctly leftist cult, and with it you will find the extremes. Nothing was wrong with the male/female roles before feminism took hold.
    I don't know for sure what the aims are of modern feminism but in the past they have been outspoken advocates of ripping away family life, abortion, pan-racial relationships, gender inequality, lesbian households and other niceties which are not conducive to maintaining productive and somewhat insular Germanic, families, social structures, states or countries. They are fringe, and should of always been left that way, and I cannot figure out what exactly they have achieved, but if some of their most prominent writers never wrote, or if their speakers never muttered a word and the politicians who sided with them were never elected...then I just can't say for sure how different the world would be today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens View Post
    This is not regarding the past successes of the Feminist movement or its former (achieved) goals, but what its aims are TODAY. What currently passes as feminist activism.
    The vast number of original Feminist Leaders were Jewish I would think. It is an idea that comes directly out of Marxist teachings.

    Individuals such as Gloria Steinem were Jewish, on her fathers side, even though she looks mostly Germanic.

    Modern Scandinavia though appears to be one of the worst areas in the world for Feminism though. I’m not sure if there is a predisposition in Scandinavian women to be feminist though or if it is social conditioning.

    Simply put feminism kills a culture for many reasons. As a man you really don’t have to put up with it and can take other options.

    On the other hand for Scandinavian men who do not want to marry out of their Ethnicity they do in fact have a problem, because of the very limited number of Scandinavian women who are marriageable.

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    Is it positive? Restoring the gender equity that we once had before the influence of Latinized Christianity?
    Im not sure what "Equality" you are talking about.

    I doubt Germanic Pagans were that "Equal" and were no more "Equal" than the Romans. Although I will admit that like almost all Empires Rome was a Patriarchy society. Although that did not stop a women from obtaining the Emperors throne at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens View Post
    This is not regarding the past successes of the Feminist movement or its former (achieved) goals, but what its aims are TODAY. What currently passes as feminist activism.
    I will speak from experience here. One of the discussions during a course I did at university involved Feminism. The logic is exactly the same as minority logic: "let's put more women in traditionally masculine jobs, seeing as gender doesn't matter" There are women who purposely become Lesbians in order to send a political 'message'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jens View Post
    Is it positive? Restoring the gender equity that we once had before the influence of Latinized Christianity?

    Is it negative? Is it going too far, stirring up division and strife at the worst possible time?
    Same as always, negative really. It's a misguided sense of oppression. No one seems to take feminism seriously these days though, it was mostly a 60s generation thing.

    Personally, I don't believe in gender equality, but neither do I believe in superiority or inferiority. I despise men who treat women like property. Genders are just different, that's all. Women excel at things men do not, and men excel at things that women do not, that's just how it is. And our societies would be best if we would stop trying to act like men (feminists) and women (homosexuals), and specialised in what we were made to do.

    Feminism has only sought to destroy the family unit, and there is one thing that every child deserves, the mother. Nowadays kids are growing up like free range chickens in those daycare centres, rather than having a proper mother (whom feminism threw into the workforce in the name of 'equality').

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    To argue with who functions better in which job is an economic reason. For me functionality is a minor point.

    Gender 'equality' produces less and inferior offsprings. We can see that in the birthrates of western countries. Women are overworked because they do a normal job plus they are most often also burdened with a homework (though technology has reduced the workload considerably). Women are now masculinized through the job demands and in the evening they have to apply feminine traits which leaves them confused and unhappy.

    There are plenty of jobs which are done better by women, involving multi tasking and other things.

    Women in tradionally male workplaces most likely produced a lot of trouble marriagewise through flings on the job.

    feminism disregards to a big extends the real needs of women and treats them as men in a female body (that works down to lesbianism). It is materialist and treats people according to their body, not their essence or spiritual peculiarities.

    A nation which loses it's feminine women is on the down spiral (as well as losing masculine men).

    A nation with masculinized women and feminized men does not work and that is excactly why it is applied to western countries. Feminist never complain over Muslim standards (though they are much much better than portraited in western media) if that is not suspicious than I do not know what.
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    Interesting thoughts so far, I would be very interested to see if the women feel the same way though.

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    Feminism kills European men.

    As a women, I will never get to witness what my female ancestors went through. Real European men untouched by feminism sh/t! REAL MEN.

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    Feminism is largely dead.

    What we see now is women and girls who have freedom but don't know what to do with it.

    Their mothers and grandmothers might have been burning bras but women now are superficial, image conscious (ironically because of women's magazines and female t.v programming) and exploit/cheapen their sexuality by dancing on tables for money and having promiscuous sex and dressing like sluts. They have made themselves sex objects for men.

    Airheads like Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian etc are their role models.

    Family structure is destroyed, white men would rather be with non Europeans who still have that sense of tradition and family, single parent (mother) households are common and as a result kids are brought up without discipline and a male figure. This has been proven to be harmful to boys but also girls who then don't know how to relate to males when they get older.

    I'm not a woman hater. I'm not for women being treated badly. Men and Women are different in many ways and it is better that these differences are respected and understood than to try and make men and women the same.

    As we have been seeing it just doesn't work.

    So overall the influence of feminism on Germanic and for that matter any culture that has experienced it has been negative.

    It is the same as any social "revolution" that seeks to bring about equality. Once that equality has been achieved, they seek supremacy.
    I grew up on a belief of honour, courage and the old world values. The world isn't about that anymore, preferring to die a slow death of fast food and cheap thrills.

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    Feminism certainly isn't dead in the US. It's running rampant like a disease. A widespread epidemic. Media, entertainment, and even the educational systems spread feminist ideologies which the feminization of men and masculinization of women is the result. Women are taught motherhood and even marital sex is oppressive and degrading but yet casual sex is control and liberating. Women become extremely materialistic as they are taught wealth is priority over family.

    Men are emasculated through pop culture and media. They are taught to be weak by being submissive to feminine dominance. They are taught that feminine features are more sexually desirable and that marriage and children will only rob them of their hard earned income and property. This teaching them to turn to casual sex and to perceive women as sex objects.

    I could go on and on about this because I've studied it extensively and it's sickening nature.

    Something must be done to restore moral traditional values or our society will fall into complete decadence....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krähe View Post
    Personally, I don't believe in gender equality, but neither do I believe in superiority or inferiority. I despise men who treat women like property. Genders are just different, that's all. Women excel at things men do not, and men excel at things that women do not, that's just how it is. And our societies would be best if we would stop trying to act like men (feminists) and women (homosexuals), and specialised in what we were made to do.
    Couldn't have said it any better myself, I have always held this precise conviction.

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    I understand this has been a major issue in the English speaking world. I have had different experiences here in Germany though. Perhaps it is because I am in the South, but family values persist, generally. In many ways, old beliefs regarding gender roles are intact. Provided women are treated with respect and love, even the graduate students and career women will wash your socks and clean the dishes. It is something I've seen among the liberal types as well as the conservatives here. They don't like being told what to do, but they'll do it for you without being asked if you treat them right and act like a man. I have been in the USA and I agree that things are very bad and tense there. People don't know what is expected of them anymore and the women and men seem angry at each other all the time. It seems like here it is different though. Women have a lot more time on their hands since technology now does most housework for them. I don't see a problem with them working, provided they are home in the evening so we can spend time together. In America the women are bitter about Patriarchy theory and see themselves as victims. I don't see that here, at least not among the younger generation. Maybe if I hung out in the gender studies department.

    Anyway the current goals of feminism are not those things. Today's feminism is focused on the following:

    Body Image in corporate media. (I think women should get to look the way they do without judgement)

    Passing the Equal Rights Amendment in the USA (mostly this would make women eligible for the draft and combat positions in the military)

    Gender specific violence legislation for women (absurd I think considering by FAR the most victims of violence are men)

    Abolishing the Sex Industry (looks good to me)

    I think men underestimate their own power in steering women's attitudes. Women still want men, and refusing to be involved with them unless they meet certain basic requirements regarding femininity can prevent a societal shift. We can already see the effect of this. The rabid career women of the 70s and 80s did not reproduce. And their lifestyle is no longer glorified in the mainstream.

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