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    English Gene Pool

    What would you say the percentage of the genetic gene pool in England is from each of these groups?

    Celtic
    Roman
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    Saxons
    Jutes
    Danes
    Norse
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    I live in eastern England, in Yorkshire, and my part of England has always been very Anglish. Further south people look more German, more saxon, but where I'm from the populace is definitely more northern Germanic, flaxen haired, more anglo than saxon. I speak from my own experience of where I live.

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    From my sketchy knowledge of the subject I'd say:
    Celtic - a fair bit
    Roman - very little
    Angles - quite a lot
    Saxons - ditto
    Jutes - a bit in the south
    Danes - quite a lot
    Norse - a fair bit
    Norman - not much

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    Celtic - middle
    Roman- low
    Angles- high
    Saxons- high
    Jutes-middle
    Danes- they are connected to Norse- middle
    Norse- high
    Norman- They are connected to Norse- high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticviking View Post
    Norman- They are connected to Norse- high.
    Take your point - the Normans had Norse blood, but relatively few of them settled, at least this is what I've heard!

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    It would seem that the Celtic (or original British, whatever you want to call it) genes are alot stronger in England then is being gave credit for. Hasnt DNA test's already proven this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berrocscir View Post
    Take your point - the Normans had Norse blood, but relatively few of them settled, at least this is what I've heard!
    Quite correct. Historical evidence strongly suggests that Norman contributions to our genetic makeup are likely to be minimal due in part to the little interaction between them and the English people. Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford University, writes that little more than two percent of us share strong genetic similarities with the Norman invaders.

    The Normans were indeed connected to the Norsemen as Celtic Viking suggests, but only partly. Upon settling in Francia these Scandinavian raiders married and bred with the local women, descendants of the Franks and Gauls.

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    from what I understand the Norman lords and nobles came over but the vast majority of the Norman population stayed in Normandy, unlike when whole populations of the Angles and Saxons came. I was also under the impression there was more Celtic blood unless the early Angles, Saxons and Jutes tried to mass terminate them, this I do not know.

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    I say the Boffins need to conduct a poll-of-polls or sample of samples
    I could be wrong, but I thought Brian Sykes concluded the Celtic input was fairly substanstial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berrocscir View Post
    I say the Boffins need to conduct a poll-of-polls or sample of samples
    I could be wrong, but I thought Brian Sykes concluded the Celtic input was fairly substanstial.
    In 2006 he wrote that the English gene pool was made up of over 50 per cent Germanic Y-chromosomes. In 2008 he revised this, writing that the English gene pool was made up of over 65 per cent Germanic Y-chromosomes.

    It’s difficult to know who to trust. I’ve read reports which claim that less than 20 per cent of us are descended from Anglo-Saxons; whilst others suggest that we’re almost wholly Anglo-Saxon. Neither hold water, in my opinion. That being said, genetic studies suggest that the counties on the eastern seaboard are overwhelmingly Angle. My own mother, for example, is genetically identical to those who inhabit the southern half of the Jutland peninsula.

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