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    I thought that the Greeks of all people would remember what happens when your mouth writes checks that your a** cannot cover. And, no, I am not referring to the debt crisis but the the 1920s.

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    Greek crackdown on illegal immigrants leads to mass arrests

    Thousands of migrants are being held in detention centres near Athens before being deported back to their home countries

    guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 7 August 2012

    Greek authorities have begun one of the country's biggest crackdowns yet on suspected illegal immigrants, deploying 4,500 police around Athens and detaining more than 7,000 immigrants in less than 72 hours.

    Most have been released, but about 2,000, mostly Africans and Asians, were arrested. They were sent to holding centres pending deportation in an operation that officials, bizarrely, elected to call Xenios Zeus after the Greek god of hospitality.

    On Sunday, 88 undocumented Pakistanis were put on planes, accompanied by guards, back to their home country.

    "We will not allow our towns, or our country, to be occupied and become a migrant ghetto," said Athens' hardline public-order minister, Nikos Dendias, as authorities discussed plans to build eight detention centres capable of holding up to 10,000 immigrants, in the capital.

    Widely seen as the easiest entry point to the west, Greece has had a surge of new arrivals, with government figures showing more than 100 migrants daily crossing the country's porous border with Turkey. The majority go to Athens, a magnet for migrants desperate to find work before moving on to other parts of Europe. An estimated million immigrants are believed to live in Greece where the population is barely 11 million.

    But the country's economic crisis and growing political radicalisation has given rise to a xenophobic backlash, the uncontrolled influx blamed for a sharp spike in violent crime.

    The neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn, which has vowed to rid Greece of "migrant scum", has seen its popularity soar with the party capturing an unprecedented 6.9% of the vote in parliamentary elections six weeks ago.

    Racist attacks by black-clad men associated with extremists have escalated dangerously, according to a recent report by Human Rights Watch.

    On Tuesday anti-immigrant fervour grew following the prosecution of a Pakistani who appeared in court accused of assaulting a teenage Greek girl on the Cycladic iIsle of Paros.

    In this atmosphere Athens' fragile conservative-lead coalition has taken action. Dendias described the problem of immigrants as "perhaps even bigger than our financial one".

    "The country is being lost," he told Skai TV. "What is happening now is [Greece's] greatest invasion ever. Not since the Dorians invaded some 3,000 years ago has it received such a flow of immigration."

    Defending the crackdown, he insisted it was imperative to preventing the debt-stricken nation sliding into further chaos and collapse. "Our social fabric is in danger of unravelling," he said.

    In the coming weeks arrested migrants would be put in a detention centre outside Athens and unused police academies in the north of the country before being deported, he added. Immigrants were often living in such appalling conditions it was "to their benefit to be repatriated".

    On Tuesday Walid Omar, an Iraqi Kurd, was sitting in an internet cafe in Athens' historic city centre when a policeman walked in. The migrant knew the officer well. As a friend of the cafe owner, Omar regularly stopped by and the policeman did too.

    But the officer was unusually terse. "He told me and everyone else who did not look Greek to follow him. For the next two hours we were made to wait in a windowless bus, and then under the sun, before they first inspected our clothes and then inspected our papers at the police station," said the Iraqi Kurd whose documents proved he was legal in the country that has been his home for the past 15 years.

    "The whole procedure took around five hours and there was a lot of shouting," he continued in fluent Greek. "An Algerian, a young boy, was badly beaten in front of everyone. People were really scared."

    Officials said the campaign, which has coincided with the reinforcement of patrols along the Greek-Turkish border, had been also prompted by fears of a new influx of immigrants from Syria.

    For the most part the media has welcomed the move with the Kathimerini newspaper opining on Tuesday that security was finally "returning to the centre of Athens".

    But the scale of the operation has prompted widespread criticism. The left-wing main opposition Syriza party called the crackdown "a pogrom" and "insult to justice and humanity". Migrants, it said, were being used to divert attention from unpopular economic policies, including more savage spending cuts, demanded by the EU and IMF in return for much needed rescue funds.

    "It is a communications stunt aimed at concealing the true crackdown against public-sector wages, pensions and benefits that the government has agreed to in recent days."

    The Greek office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees expressed fears that refugees from war-torn countries and genuine asylum seekers could be among those summarily deported.

    Since the start of the year 8,000 migrants have voluntarily sought repatriation, with Greece's situation, economically, socially and politically, having become ever more inhospitable towards them.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...igrants-arrest

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    Manouras said the deployment of an additional 1,881 officers to the Turkish border would begin Thursday — a four-fold increase in border guards that the police spokesman said would be a permanent fixture... "We must seal the border. For that reason we will reinforce all the Evros frontier line," Manouras said.
    Greece shifting many police guards to patrol duty

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    ATHENS, Greece — Greece plans to shift roughly half of its police officers who are used for guard duty to crime-fighting efforts in cities instead, the national police spokesman said Tuesday. He added that a move to massively boost security at the border with Turkey, in part out of concerns about an influx of Syrian refugees, would be permanent.

    Greece has seen a sharp rise in violent crime since the country's debt crisis exploded in late 2009. With unemployment above 20 percent, officials also are under pressure to crack down on illegal migration; Greece is the busiest entry point for illegal immigrants trying to reach the European Union.

    Police spokesman Christos Manouras told The Associated Press that police currently use more than 3,000 officers to guard politicians and public sites such as parliament. That number will be slashed in half, and in some cases guards will be replaced by private security, he said.

    The 1,500 officers taken off guard duty will be used for police patrols, mostly in Athens, in hopes of reducing crime, he said.

    Manouras said the deployment of an additional 1,881 officers to the Turkish border would begin Thursday — a four-fold increase in border guards that the police spokesman said would be a permanent fixture.

    The border security boost, first announced Monday, was framed in part as a response to potential migration by Syrians seeking to escape their country's civil war. Turkey already hosts thousands of Syrian refugees.

    Manouras said the increase in security would include regular boat patrols along the Evros River that separates Greece and Turkey. He said "there already is an inflow of immigrants from Syria" but gave no details. Getting from Syria to Greece is a roughly 1,400 kilometer (870-mile) journey across Turkey.

    "We must seal the border. For that reason we will reinforce all the Evros frontier line," Manouras said.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world...e-1488221.html

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    Im Stich Gelassen

    once more I am very sad to hear all sorts of views, some very short-sighted. We all know that debt crisis was initiated and led by jewish capital. Madoff, Lehmann Brothers, Goldmann Sachs etc.
    to leave the Greeks on their own is wrong. many germans should know that many Federal states in Germany are broke too. The state of Berlin for example has more debt per capita than greece, and if it weren't for us (Bayern) they would be begging in the streets too. But in germany we have the Finanzausgleich=financial balance. If a state is in trouble the others will help. We bavarians have much more in common with greeks than Berliners or prussian. we lost a war and the prussian annexed us in 1869 but our soul is up on our mountains near to the God.
    anyway greece is the heart and soul of europe. Like Guenter Grass wrote. Without soul we are doomed and without a united europe we are doomed in a world where white people are already threatened. We germans pay billions to the nephews of holocaust victims, even if the "victims" are 30 years ago dead and nobody DARES to talk about it. Not even NPD for fear they'd get banned. Golden dawn's leader however denied the holohoax and refered to the bombing of dresden in an Interview, talking about the 20,000 wedding rings found in the asses...it's been a long time since I heard this, and I am sure the defending of germans can't be that popular in greece nowadays....(the interview was BEFORE the election)
    and I am sad about politicians of the CSU. so easy they forgot the legacy of FRANZ JOSEF STRAUSS and the Monuments of the Wittelsbacher the monument of LUDWIG I am Koenigsplatz to commemorate the greek fighters of the revolution against the muslim turks in 1821. What would have been Munich without its classical buildings, and the idealism of our latest king LUDWIG II? the prussians and short-sighted politicians of the time got rid of him because he wanted peace in Europe, culture, art and science, not pseudodemocracy and stupid nationalisms that are equal to civil war in the white europe...Instead we got stupid prussian militarism and two world wars that were the doomsday for europe....

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    Here's an interesting new video on the rise of the Golden Dawn.

    The rise of the Golden Dawn
    Beware of gods who cannot laugh.

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    Golden Dawn members invade ferry carrying Pakistani rapist

    Piraeus- Members of Greece's Golden Dawn invaded the ferry carrying the Pakistani national who has admitted to the brutal assault on a 15-year-old girl on Paros. The police van transferring the suspect was attacked before escaping from Piraeus Harbor.

    Members of Golden Dawn gathered at Piraeus harbor in protest, awaiting the ferry transferring the Pakistani national accused of attempted murder, from Syros to Athens. The alleged rapist has confessed to police that he brutally assaulted a 15-year-old Greek tourist on the island of Paros. The teenager remains in critical condition in hospital, fighting for her life.
    To Vima reported around 70 members of Golden Dawn shouted slogans as the ferry docked at Piraeus. Following the disembarkation of all the passengers about 20 men invaded the ferry, leading police to order the immediate removal of the prisoner. As the prisoner was driven away the windshield of the police car was broken by protesters.
    The Pakistani national, who was due to have been deported from Greece on August 8 if he had not been apprehended for the vicious crime, has now revealed to authorities that he previously provided false personal details. Ekathimerini reported he told the court he was 19, not 21, as he previously claimed. Due to this he has been remanded in the Avlona young offenders’ jail rather than an adult prison.
    No lawyer was willing to defend the Pakistani, so he was appointed a state lawyer.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/330421


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    Golden Dawn Office Firebombed in Athens After Iraqi’s Murder

    http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012...iraqis-murder/

    Greek authorities say arsonists firebombed an office of the far-right political party Golden Dawn (Chrysi Avgi) in the area of Pagkrati, Athens, a day after the brutal murder of a 19-year-old Iraqi immigrant on Aug. 13. Witnesses said he was attacked by five men on motorcycles and stabbed a number of times.

    There were no fatalities according to fire department officials. Police have not succeeded in finding either the suspected arsonist or the Iraqi’s attackers. The attacks coincide with an ongoing sweep of immigrants under the code name Xenios Zeus as authorities try to find illegal immigrants. Some 8,000 were detained.

    Public Order Minister Nikos Dendias decried the murder of the Iraqi immigrant and said it is up to the authorities, not vigilantes, to find those living in Greece unlawfully.
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    Golden Dawn invites men to join security brigades in Peloponnese

    By Katerina Nikolas
    Aug 23, 2012

    Kyparissia- A branch of Golden Dawn (Chrysi Avgi), in the Greek southern Peloponnese, is considering establishing a security brigade in a village with a large Roma camp.

    A party member of Golden Dawn has issued an invitation through local media for “men aged 15 to 70 to be alert and join forces” in the village of Oichalia, Messinia, Ekathimerini reported. The ex-police officer is potentially recruiting men to form a security brigade.
    The choice of Oichalia is significant as the village has a large Roma camp whose inhabitants are responsible for a crime surge in the area. Digital Journal spoke to a local Greek businessman who had information from the police in the area pertaining to Roma crime, and the reasons why police action is futile.
    Homes and land in the area are frequently robbed, and cars stolen to be sold on as scrap metal. Petty crime is rife, along with begging and harassment. However, any attempt to arrest Roma perpetrators are thwarted by the mass arrival of armed Roma at the scene. Up to 100 armed gypsies arrive at the scene if police, who have limited man-power, attempt to make an arrest, outnumbering police and outranking them in fire power.
    The village of Oichalia is close to Meligalas, a town of considerable historical significance. During World War 11 Greek communists massacred 1,400 civilians. Each year members of Golden Dawn make an annual pilgrimage to the well of Meligala (To πιγαδα tou Μελιγαλάς) to pay tribute to those executed in the massacre. Now there is a sense the area is being desecrated by foreign Roma who have no respect for Greek culture and traditions. Local residents, constant victims of Roma crime, are powerless to protect themselves, hence the call for Golden Dawn to provide some kind of security.
    Ekathimerini reported Public Order Minister Nikos Dendias ordered a Roma camp in western Athens to be cleared following a fire caused by gypsies burning electrical cables. Locals had protested that the burning of cables, which is a constant feature in the camp, produces toxic fumes. Dendias has set in motion an operation to deport the approximately 400 Albanian Roma who were in Greece illegally. Following a police operation to clear the camp, sanitation squads were sent in.
    In June Digital Journal reported that an armed Roma mob attacked a public bus near their camp in Athens, injuring six policemen in the ensuing violence. Meanwhile Xprshavgh reports two physical attacks in the pursuit of robbery against Greek citizens in Patra by Roma. Alarmingly, a Norweigan tourist was also attacked and robbed by five gypsies.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/articl...#ixzz24PWJDjJO

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    Unrest over Corinth migrants

    Thursday August 23, 2012

    A military camp in Corinth, west of Athens, became the cause of a standoff between supporters of the far-right Chrysi Avgi (Golden Dawn) party and anti-racism campaigners after the police used the center to detain dozens of migrants following a sweep operation in the city.

    Police expanded their Xenios Zeus campaign, aimed at tackling illegal immigration, from Athens to Corinth early Thursday, leading to some 250 migrants being detained. Almost 11,000 migrants have been detained since the clampdown began earlier this month, leading to nearly 2,000 arrests.

    However, the move prompted the reaction of supporters of Golden Dawn. About 60 members of the neo-fascist part, along with local party MP Efstathios Boukouras, gathered outside the camp to protest migrants being held there. There were brief clashes with riot police, who were pelted with fruit and vegetables by the protesters.

    In a statement, the ultranationalist party said it opposed military facilities being turned into “tourism centers for illegal immigrants.”

    Local Mayor Alekos Pnevmatikos also objected to the transfer of the migrants to the army camp and not being informed about the operation. “I received no official notice,” he said. “I learned about it from friends on Thursday morning. The reaction to this will be strong. We’re at war.”

    Pnevmatikos ordered the water supply to the camp to be cut off due to unpaid bills and said that no more garbage collections would take place until the matter is resolved. A municipal council meeting took place late last night to discuss the issue, while Golden Dawn supporters and anti-racism campaigners were involved in skirmishes outside.

    Earlier, Golden Dawn MP and party spokesman Ilias Kasidiaris attacked the coalition government for “turning Greece into Europe’s dumping ground” and referred to illegal immigrants as “trash.”

    Kasidiaris was warned about his language by the parliamentary speaker but insisted that “we have a democracy and I can use whichever phrases I feel fit the circumstances.”

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w...08/2012_458032


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    The government insists the operation is working, reporting a drop in illegal border crossings by around 90 percent in the first week.

    "This is a massive operation that is taking place in the country for the first time and it will continue in the long-term," police spokesman Christos Manouras said.

    "It is widely accepted that the expulsion of immigrants who are here illegally is a national necessity, an issue of national survival."

    In crisis, Greece rounds up immigrants

    Aug. 22, 2012

    NEA VYSSA, Greece (AP) — Border police jeeps hurtle along hot, dusty tracks past potato fields on their way to the river that marks the Greek-Turkish border. Sirens blaring, the convoys have been repelling wave after wave of migrants.

    Greece's remote Evros region has turned into Europe's main battleground against illegal immigration; more than two-thirds of people making the clandestine journey into the European Union pass through here from neighboring Turkey.

    Greece launched an aggressive campaign this month to try to seal its 130-mile northeastern border, as it faces a debilitating financial crisis that has caused a swell in joblessness and a surge in racist attacks against immigrants with dark skin.

    The police operation has brought nearly 2,000 additional border guards to the Turkish frontier previously manned by about 500 officers. They fanned out with dogs, night vision equipment and flat-bottomed boats for 24-hour patrols of the Evros River that forms a natural border. At least 21 people have drowned or died of exposure crossing the river this year, while several have been listed as missing.

    In Athens, the operation is being bolstered by mass roundups of suspected illegal immigrants. They are seen lined up on the streets of the capital every day, many in handcuffs, waiting to be put in detention until they can be deported. In the first week of the crackdown in early August, police said they apprehended nearly 7,000 people for identification checks; nearly 1,700 were slated for deportation.

    Anwar, a 22-year-old man from Bangladesh, walked across the border near Orestiada, a small town wedged between Turkey and Bulgaria. Unaware of the immigration clampdown, he said he is looking for police so he can turn himself in. It's a well-worn ploy: Migrants have actively tried to get themselves taken to detention centers near Athens, assuming they will be released due to overcrowding and allowed to blend into the chaotic capital.

    "I've come here to work," Anwar, who declined to give his full name because of his illegal status, said moments after crossing the border. "I know what will happen to me: They might keep me in detention for around three months, but then they'll let me out and I'll go to Athens."

    Now, however, authorities are determined to swiftly deport illegal migrants they round up.

    In a recent pre-dawn operation, authorities using thermal imaging cameras spotted a group of around 60 illegal immigrants on the Turkish side of the Evros River. Officers used spotlights, sirens and loud speakers to deter them from crossing, although fifteen immigrants still made it over to a river islet in a no man's land and were arrested.

    Uniformed police officers from 25 countries are already helping Greece guard the Evros River as part of the European Union's border protection agency, Frontex. Greek police figures show more than 21,000 illegal migrants were arrested in the first six months of 2012 after crossing over from Turkey, with nearly all — 20,841 — caught along the northeastern land border rather than on one of the many Aegean islands near the Turkish coast. The figures show a nearly 29 percent increase from the same period last year.

    Afghans currently make up the highest number of people crossing illegally, followed by Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, and an increasing number of people from war-ravaged Syria, according to the agency.

    The police operation has faced strong criticism from human rights groups, local officials, and even police officers' associations — with criticism focusing on alleged racial profiling and police brutality. Allegations include arbitrary detention, beatings and degrading police treatment.

    Police video showing riot police and other officers rounding up mostly South Asian immigrants as they got off a train that arrived at Athens' main station also received condemnation from local rights groups and leftwing opposition parties.

    Amnesty International called on Greek authorities to stop the roundups immediately.

    "While Greece has the right to control migration, it does not have the right to treat people like criminals purely because of the color of their skin," Amnesty's Jezerca Tigani said in a statement. He warned that many immigrants fleeing war zones and potential persecution from dictatorial regimes were being denied a fair asylum assessment.

    "Greece may be going through financial difficulties while facing one of the highest migration flows among EU countries," Tigani said, "but these police operations violate international human rights standards and should stop immediately."

    Police say migrants' rights are being respected.

    "Our aim is to deter illegal immigrants and arrest traffickers, but the migrants' well-being and rights are always a main priority," said Orestiada police chief Yiorgos Salamangas.

    The government insists the operation is working, reporting a drop in illegal border crossings by around 90 percent in the first week.

    "This is a massive operation that is taking place in the country for the first time and it will continue in the long-term," police spokesman Christos Manouras said.

    "It is widely accepted that the expulsion of immigrants who are here illegally is a national necessity, an issue of national survival."

    Greece is a member of Europe's passport-free Schengen agreement but shares no borders with any of the other 25 member states. That has meant hundreds of thousands of irregular immigrants have been unable to cross the border into other European countries, trapping them in limbo in Athens and other Greek cities, typically in slum conditions.

    As the country struggles through a fifth year of recession, illegal immigration and a rise in violent crime have become central issues in the political debate, with mainstream parties blamed by many for the country's near financial collapse facing opposition from more radical political groups.

    The extreme right Golden Dawn party, described by political opponents as neo-Nazis, won nearly 7 percent of the vote in June general elections, a 20-fold jump since a national vote in 2009.

    The party denies any involvement in a recent surge in anti-immigrant attacks, and says police should be more concerned by attacks on Greeks by foreign criminals.

    In one suspected attack by racist gangs this month, an Iraqi man was stabbed in the street and died hours later in the hospital.

    Anti-racism campaigners last month said immigrants living in Greece have been targeted in at least 300 violent attacks between early April and late July. The rise in hate crimes is believed to be one of the triggers of the government clampdown.

    Authorities are using a newly built detention center near Athens and two converted police academy buildings in northeastern Greece to house detainees, while dozens of additional facilities are planned using converted Army bases.

    Police associations argue that the massive deployment of manpower should have been delayed until more of those new facilities are ready. They cite the lack of detention capacity as a key reason for the country's inability to deal with illegal immigration.

    It's a concern shared by local authorities in the Evros region, and many residents.

    "As long as people know they can make it here and eventually live freely, they will keep coming," said 63-year-old Christos Kyriakidis. "Nothing will stop them."

    http://www.livingstondaily.com/usato...CFrontpage%7Cp


    Greek police intercept 100s of South Asians as they arrive on a train in Athens


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