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    WHAT IS THIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lydig View Post
    I feel so ashamed now!
    Waking up, and the first thing that meets me is no conspiracy!

    I dont even dear to put up any news about the subject anymore, in case some of you spit up more conspiracy therorie out of thin air!

    Remember that the victims family might read this!


    It seems like people are obsessed with jewish conspiracies!
    Your reaction is understandable, i guess, considering the emotions involved in this tragedy. But in a strategical point of view, your suggestions - that we should just sit around and mourn the victims - is unthinkable. Sure, what has happened is horrible, but it IS a fact, not a conspiracy theory, that Anders was a freemason and a zionist who disliked genuine nationalism (which means he is NOT a pro-norwegian preservationist). But the massmedia, around the western world, calls him a nationalist and a nazi, inspired by nationalistic ideas on the web (which leads to US). They LIE about the perpetrator, and if we just ignore that, and let the media continue to behave like that, we basically allow ourselves to be described as guilty of the crime.

    Do you want that ? Do you want to be described as an inspiration ta a mass-murderer who killed your own people?

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    "Some of my friends tried to stop him by talking to him. Many people on the island thought that it was a test... comparing it to how it is to live in Gaza. So many people went to him and tried to talk to him, but they were shot immediately." -Adrian Pracon
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-2...site=newcastle

    Can't find the actual quote in Norwegian, so I am not sure about the validity of it, but it is very likely to be true. The AUF camp was quite involved in discussing the "plight of the Palestinians" I'm sure, as it is a big issue for them (and the matter of boycotting Israel).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    dum-dum ammunition is outlawed by the laws of war.

    What it is: on top of the bullet you make two cuts with a knife, crossed. the cuts should be sufficient deep.

    What it does is: when the bullet hits the body, instead of going through, it rips apart at the cut-in cross and widens in the body, thus leaving huge wounds. Also the impact on the body is bigger as the bullet is not going through therefore the kinetic energy is transformed on the body.

    Those are quite some evil things and very unethical. that adds torture to the killing. It is way more painful to get hit by such a bullet.

    Man, man, that is quite something.
    I don't think he cares that they are outlawed in the Geneve convention. Hunters in Norway have to use dumdum bullets.

    Hollowpoint and the most solid bone in the human body is a bad combo, so we have many more hurt and not dead. That's why hunters here don't go for headshots. If he had used fullmantled bullets then the stats more likely would be uglier.

    Hollowpoints give larger wounds on soft parts and have deformation, but they have less penetration power. Full mantled bullets keep their shape, hollowpoint spread out the force. Same amount of energy on a larger area.

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    They ofcourse liberals want you to feel guilty.

    Breivik is a 'rightwing' guy, you are one therefore you are guilty by association.

    The blame game is reverse because Breivik is the reaction to Multi-Kulti. The one's who bring in foreigners who rape and kill almost without impunity through liberal judges are the one's who are guilty for this.

    And if this does not stop liberals, there will be harder things coming up. It is easy to foresee. the King and the MP already promised they will not give up but try harder, the typical attitude of an abused spouse.

    At one point you literal have to stop liberals with a gun, otherwise they continue their destruction work.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    dum-dum ammunition is outlawed by the laws of war.

    What it is: on top of the bullet you make two cuts with a knife, crossed. the cuts should be sufficient deep.

    What it does is: when the bullet hits the body, instead of going through, it rips apart at the cut-in cross and widens in the body, thus leaving huge wounds. Also the impact on the body is bigger as the bullet is not going through therefore the kinetic energy is transformed on the body.

    Those are quite some evil things and very unethical. that adds torture to the killing. It is way more painful to get hit by such a bullet.

    Man, man, that is quite something.
    He used those bullets because he wanted the targets to die, not because he wanted them to suffer. Hollow points are very commonly used in handguns here. In fact, I doubt many people use anything else. The purpose is to stop someone before they can harm you (of course this is not applicable to an unarmed someone who is fleeing.) But if you are shooting some unarmed innocent, I doubt there are ethics involved in the first place.
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    Now they are comparing him to Hitler on TV...

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    But we are judged by the company we keep (ideologically and otherwise). It has always been that way and it will always be that way.

    Human beings don't exist as individuals with separate ideas, especially when they engage in political thought or speech. If you say you're Catholic or Jewish, people will assume certain things about you - that's how human nature works. Same with being a right wing European nationalist.

    And while this guy is a "lunatic" in one sense of the word, he's also extremely smart, very politic, and knew exactly what he was doing - right down to knowing which lawyer he wanted, in advance. He was hoping, of course, to kill the PM (who was supposed to be there on the island that day and whose trip was called off after the bombing, apparently). The shooter's detailed manifesto makes it clear what his strategy was. He accomplished what he set out to do. Being stopped by ethics or what is cool was not on the table for him - not for years.

    That's how revolutionaries behave, whether they are European or not. The fact that some of you don't want to be as revolutionary as he, well, that's a topic for discussion - but he wants to be way out there, with his 100 year plan, and his life on the line. He wants to walk the talk.

    And he did. It was an effective terrorist blow against the left wing of Norway and its cultural Marxist leanings - indeed, if you go to news.google.com and type in Cultural Marxist, all of a sudden - voilá, you will see way more news (from several nations).
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    Psychiatrist says he isn't crazy. He was never a psychiatric patient, and had a good childhood.

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    I am not sure how good of a source VG is.
    Young people interviewed by VG describe an additional perpetrator – who was not wearing a police uniform. The person was following them around was 180 centimeters tall, had thick dark hair and a Nordic appearance. He had a pistol in his right hand and a rifle on his back. – I believe that there were two people who were shooting, says Alexander Stavdal (23)….Webster G. Tarpley
    http://tarpley.net/2011/07/24/norway...-a-false-flag/

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    I am judged all the time and I do judge people now.

    It is a question whether you let the judgement by others penetrate you.
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