View Poll Results: Do You consider Iranians to be Europids?

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  • No I do not consider Iranians as Europids.(No Exceptions)

    61 38.13%
  • Yes I do consider Iranians as Europids.(No Exceptions)

    27 16.88%
  • I consider most Iranians not to be Europeans but a few are(Exception made for the few)

    72 45.00%
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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    So what became of these Aryans you might ask?

    Why they all migrated to the Balkans in search of new lands.
    I hereby certify you as 100% Aryan.
    Hehe.. nope. Only around 20% of Balkans is of that ancient Slavic origin.

    The Aryans still exist. Especially in the heritage of the Zoroastrians and Hindus.
    If you search for ancient Aryan values and religions, you can find them in these
    traditions. Of course, neither of them is free of other influence, but
    it's much closer to the original than in Europe where old IE beliefs were DELETED by the onslaight of christianity.

    Zoroaster was a reformer of the ancient Aryan religion, while Hinduism is a collection of many influences. Some originally Aryan ( Indra, Rama some pre-Aryan (( Dravidian ) like Kali, Ravanna ), some made of both influences like Krishna etc.

    Racially, you probably know from the work of anthropologists that
    ethnic Iranian peoples and pure Aryan caste Hindus of N.India are
    mostly of NordOid phenotypes.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    I think It was a two way street. That is both the Arabs and Persians influenced one another. My point is Iranians with maybe a few exceptions aren't Racially European in nature and certainly not European in culture.
    Yes, and they never really were. We're talking about a people with thousands of years of middle-eastern history.

    It's a two way street, but not equally. Arabs started off as fairly uncivilized nomads. Persia was a huge empire, and ancient civilization which was militarily and socially weakened by centuries of war with Rome and later Byzantium.

    They weren't exactly straight-up conquered by Arabs. The people were tired
    of the clergy and aristocracy and their lengthy wars, so many people adopted Islam as a way of escaping the grim life under Persian Imperial rule.

    The 17 or so years of war that went on from the moment when Arabs entered Persia were as much a war as they were a civil war.

    Similar happened in many other areas where Islam came. In those times, there was no such thing as national identity. This came some 1300 years later, so cultural/linguistic/religious transitions were quicker.

    Byzantium lost huge areas of their empire thanks to the fact that they were already losing them to various christian sects. These sects also saw Islam as a saviour from the torture of the centralized church.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    @Northern Paladin I asked you for proofs, why you don`t show me them?

    @Awar: What you understand under Nordoid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    I think It was a two way street. That is both the Arabs and Persians influenced one another.
    Yes, since you wasted endless hours of deep thoughts on it and finally figured how to make something up just to make it fit to your agenda, it just has to be right.

    The proof is out there Northern Paladin. You aren't looking hard enough. It's in historical studies its in cultural evidence. It's everywhere. How could you miss it?

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Which is also a lot times a problem, that the people see only the Persians.
    The Persians are Arabs and Farsi is so much Arabic, which is in real not true, but should I care about this? Persians are 1/8 of the Iranians.

    @Norther Paladin: Koennen sie Deutsch?

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    @Shapur: I hope your Deutsch is better than your Englisch

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awar
    @Shapur: I hope your Deutsch is better than your Englisch
    I speak better German then the most Germans I know.
    My English is not so fine, yeah yeah I know, but this has nothing to do that I don`t want to learn right English. It has more to do with the lack of English grammar. But why should I? It is enough to understand every English book.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shapur
    Which is also a lot times a problem, that the people see only the Persians.
    The Persians are Arabs and Farsi is so much Arabic, which is in real not true, but should I care about this? Persians are 1/8 of the Iranians.

    @Norther Paladin: Koennen sie Deutsch?

    Are you serious?

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    At first I would have said no but after reading all of the replies I not so sure now. This is a very intresting topic and I have learned a little something from all of you. Thanx

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchTape
    Are you serious?
    There exist maybe 40 million Persians. So this is 1/8 of all Iranians.
    Farsi is an Iranian language and not an Arabic or Semitic language.
    Persians are Caucasoids as Germans are, without Dravidic, Negroid or Mongoloid admixture. And when it exist then it is not more as Germans has non-Caucasoid admixture.

    Btw I study Germanistik

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