View Poll Results: Do You consider Iranians to be Europids?

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  • No I do not consider Iranians as Europids.(No Exceptions)

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  • Yes I do consider Iranians as Europids.(No Exceptions)

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  • I consider most Iranians not to be Europeans but a few are(Exception made for the few)

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    if titles caucasoid/europid and white can be seperated right; as caucasoid being everyone in the caucasoid sub species from spain to arabistan, iran, russia etc and label white being selectively used in order to specify a person of either baltic, slavic, germanic,hellenic, romance or celtic background then the problem might be solved. if a near easterner belongs to one of the european subraces of alpine, dinarid, nordid, med and phenotypically cant be told from a european then he may call himself white individually but not his nation as a whole. otherwise you make jews, turks and that stuff white. they are caucasoid but not white. ofcourse the whole thing can be solved when word europid is defined properly(i now assume it means caucasoid).

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    Thumbs Up Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by VÄRING
    What's the problem? Europid sub-species can be anything from Irano-Afghans to Turanids to Nordids. The term doesn't imply a kinship with the peoples of Europe, of course.
    Yep.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    If Turks aren't considered Europid why should Iranians be? Throughout Europe Turks are considered distinctly non-European. In Germany this is particularlly obvious. If Iranians are Europid? Why shouldn't Turks,Iraqis, and Jews also be Europid. Why shouldn't the majority of Middle Easterns be considered Europid?

    In fact I'd say in general Turks,Jews, and Palestinians fellow "Middle Easterns" are more Europid than Iranians.
    You're not esspecialy bright, are you?
    Europid is a racial classification. Belonging to this taxon depends on biological characteristics. The suffix '-id' (greek origin) is to identify antropological(biological) classification. Baker's taxonomy equalizes europid to caucasoid. Thats why swedes, italians, americans, jews, iraqi, turks,gypsies, and other caucasoids(=europid) are europid(=caucasoids) if they are free of negroid and mongoloid admixture. Turks are a bit more complex because the original turanid element in their genofond (10-15%) was partly mongoloid.


    European is geographical term. It refers to geography. Virtually every negroe or chimp born in Europe(the continent, geography) could be (and is) considered european. It is not connected with race(biological term) but with geography. As swedes and italians are europeans, iranians and iraqi are not europeans simply because neither Iran, nor Iraq are european(geography) countries. Turks are complicated again, because as most of Turkey is in Asia(the continent, geography) small part of the country(geography) is in Europe(geography). They could be considered both asians and europeans. Politically Turkey is considered oftentimes european country.


    Thus, northern, I hope the information above was presented simple enough for your (unfortunately) europid mind (biology).

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    The thread is sooo retarded stated, that I even feel like an idiot replying to it. It would be wise if the administrators remove it to the free-speech zone. Either way any intelligent poster who browse the hereby sub-forum that pretends to be high and scientific and see this joke-thread would draw negative conclusions for the the whole forum. The last option of the poll is enough for me:

    Do You consider Iranians to be Europids?
    -No I do not consider Iranians as Europids.(No Exceptions)
    -Yes I do consider Iranians as Europids.(No Exceptions)
    -I consider most Iranians not to be Europeans but a few are(Exception made for the few)

    Really, what kind of human being with IQ>52 would consider 'a few' iranians to be europeans, bearing in mind(mind of human with IQ>52) that Iran is asian country?
    An american?

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by VioletOxygen
    The thread is sooo retarded stated, that I even feel like an idiot replying to it. It would be wise if the administrators remove it to the free-speech zone. Either way any intelligent poster who browse the hereby sub-forum that pretends to be high and scientific and see this joke-thread would draw negative conclusions for the the whole forum. The last option of the poll is enough for me:

    Do You consider Iranians to be Europids?
    -No I do not consider Iranians as Europids.(No Exceptions)
    -Yes I do consider Iranians as Europids.(No Exceptions)
    -I consider most Iranians not to be Europeans but a few are(Exception made for the few)

    Really, what kind of human being with IQ>52 would consider 'a few' iranians to be europeans, bearing in mind(mind of human with IQ>52) that Iran is asian country?
    An american?
    Yeah ! That I said the whole time. But maybe they understand you!

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by VioletOxygen
    You're not esspecialy bright, are you?
    Europid is a racial classification. Belonging to this taxon depends on biological characteristics. The suffix '-id' (greek origin) is to identify antropological(biological) classification. Baker's taxonomy equalizes europid to caucasoid. Thats why swedes, italians, americans, jews, iraqi, turks,gypsies, and other caucasoids(=europid) are europid(=caucasoids) if they are free of negroid and mongoloid admixture.
    Europid=European Caucasoid. You should learn your definitions before you accuse others of being of low intelligence. You forgot to include Indians and Arabs in your List of what you consider Europid . Caucasoid is a general terminology. Europid is specifically used to refer to European Caucasoids.

    Why are you defending Iranians with such Zeal?
    Last edited by Northern Paladin; Saturday, July 17th, 2004 at 03:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    Europid=European Caucasoid. You should learn your definitions before you accuse others of being of low intelligence. You forgot to include Indians and Arabs in your List of what you consider Europid . Caucasoid is a general terminology. Europid is specifically used to refer to European Caucasoids.

    Why are you defending Iranians with such Zeal?
    You're still not quite there yet, are you? How about you look up the word "synonym" in the dictionary? Go on. You won't regret it.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    I think most people agree here that Iranians are by and large Caucasoid - ie. part of the white race.

    But they are not European in a sub-racial sense.

    I personally think that they are on the fringe of the Caucasoid race. Just wanted to add that to my earlier statements.

    Btw, so anyone got any studies on Iranian autosomal DNA?

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak
    I think most people agree here that Iranians are by and large Caucasoid - ie. part of the white race.

    But they are not European in a sub-racial sense.

    True, though I wouldn't want to equate Caucasoid with White.

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    Would it not be easier for people of your views to ditch the term "white" and substitue "indigenous European Europid stock"? This would clear up any ambiguities and avoid inconsistencies in my opinion.

    By the way Polak I will respond to you shortly. I just haven't had enough time to compose an adequate response.

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