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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    EYTYXEITE!

    Dear AWAR. I agree that Civilization is the product of a few brilliant Individuals in any case but also in a case such this we are talking refering proportions.
    The mass is always ignorant and of course,the mass as a simply "user", pay no attention to Civilization.Concerning Greece of the very past I think History speaks itself. Ancient Greeks consider Civilization like something very connected to daily life because they had the aesthetic to recognize it.
    In ancient Greece natives were the "producers" but the "tool" was the slaves; they were the workers; Greeks gave the orders! Then, only a few were in position to command and the production of Civilization was very easy. The State was productive because was not democratic, in no sense. The fall start after abolishing the sense of originality. They start to be more materialistic and to accept foreign gods, doctrines and ethics. So the fall came mathematically.
    It was when proportion changed and original population turned to less.
    Don't believe that (for example) the dirty path guiding to Byzance-era had something to do with Hellas! Then, Greeks were already minority but they still exist! Same is valid today. In the streets of Athens greek faces are the exeption to the rule. A vast brutal majority but Greeks still exist. I think same is with Iranian People.
    The question is: how we can continue to bring the torch during the Time?
    I think the answer is only one: preserving our originality in every sense!
    And, of course, don't consider the mass; Individual matter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AWAR
    I disagree. Reading Herodothus points me to believe that ANY civilization exists not thanks to the people, but inspite of the people.
    If you went back through time, you'd see that even at it's peak, Greece was populated by mostly common people who don't give two shits about civilization, just like today.

    This goes for any country. People are largely blind when it comes to vision and creativity, only a few combine these gifts with a great ability to combat everyday mediocrity, the work and thoughts of a few people influenced the way we are today.

    The Wheel wasn't invented by some entire population, but by a man who saw a revolutionary design where everyone else saw nothing.

    Civilization is created by brilliant individuals, it's kept afloat thanks to elaborate systems which keep the flock of ordinary people together, working, living and producing.

    Here's a nice example of how quickly circumstances can change a whole population:

    This is an excerpt from an article originally found in NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC in 1908. Less than a hundred years later, after half a dozen wars, unsuccesful attempt at socialism etc. Montenegro is but a shadow of it's former greatness of spirit. Today live the direct as can be descendants of the Montenegrins of 1908. but during the run of the last century, they lost most of the ethnic spirit they once had. The dignity and courage were ruined mostly by corrupt communism. How wouldn't the spirit of ancient Greece be ruined by millenia of occupation and wars.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Here's a map of the Middle East http://www.bike2oz.c2o.org/images/Ma...e%20Marked.jpg

    If Middle Easterns such as Iranians can be considered "Europid" why can't some Central Asians? There are in fact quite "Europid" looking Central Asians as well. Personally I am of the opinion that the Majority of Iranians and Middle Easterns are distinctly non-European. I once knew a boy who was 1/4 Iranian and 3/4 Swedish. What did he look like? He looked distinctly Middle Eastern with curly brown hair a big plump nose unibrow and a host of other features that stroke me as distinctly non-Swedish/Non-Northern European.

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    Post AW: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Iranians are Caucasoids!
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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    I think that some iranians had again trace of Aryan feature.

    Look this pictures :

    Aryan survivors in modern Iran: Left: Two children from a North-western village of Iran; and right: A Qashqai girl from the Fars region in Southern Iran near the Persepolis ruins.
    The old Iran ( Persia) was an aryan country.
    Only a civilized race as Aryan had can built a Great Empire as the Persian Empire.
    for me some rest of Aryan civilization and blood had stay in Iran, but not the majority of the population are still aryan. Many Iranian was mixed with others race from the east.
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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    I don't either. The way I see it Iranians are different Physically and Culturally to what is European in Nature.
    Iranians are for the most part Swarthy,Hook Nosed,Extremely Hairy, and a bunch of Islamic Extremists.
    Yep, just like their glorious swarthy, black-haired, black-eyed, hook-nosed aryans forefathers:
    Darius, King of Persia:


    Is Darius Europid?

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Seems to be a lot of ignorance here.

    There are MANY caucasoid Iranians. I have seen many with very pale skin, light eyes and hair, and many with darker hair/eyes/skin but very caucasoid features. I think white Iranians make up the majority. To deny that Iran has a considerable Mongoloid and Arabic influence is stupid. But hey, most white American racists admit to having Amerind blood in them!

    The Aryan National Press (http://www.geocities.com/aryannews/index.htm), although full of a lot of false information (apparently Iranians have no admixture and are immune to homosexuality...lol), is a good source of information for anyone interested in Iran's Aryan heritage.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    Nevertheless, Arabs are also Caucasoid.
    I don't know about Mongoloid admixture, perhaps someone here has a genetic study which clearly states the ammounts of Mongoloid DNA among Iranians.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    EYTYXEITE!
    Dear Northern Paladin, concerning Turks and Jewish there is not question. Tracing back their origins is easy to discover that Turks are Mongols (n o t European!) and Jewish are Semits (n o t European, as well!). If we will follow traces of Iranian People we will arrive to the same roots as many other "established" European People coming from same area of Pamir. It is a very long conversation...
    Central Europeans like Germans are right, trying to stop the "legal" invation of the Turks against Europe and the worst agent in this case is -unfortunately- the seak "foreign policy" of the loughable "greek" Governments of last decade.
    Simply, I think that Europe has many to gain considering Iranian as a positive People, able to accept real development and ready to follow European paths in the future.
    I'm sure that Iranians are very progressive in depth and the only negative factor is that during the Time they were abandoned in a theocratic disappointment (another long debate).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    Here's a map of the Middle East http://www.bike2oz.c2o.org/images/Ma...e%20Marked.jpg

    If Middle Easterns such as Iranians can be considered "Europid" why can't some Central Asians? There are in fact quite "Europid" looking Central Asians as well. Personally I am of the opinion that the Majority of Iranians and Middle Easterns are distinctly non-European. I once knew a boy who was 1/4 Iranian and 3/4 Swedish. What did he look like? He looked distinctly Middle Eastern with curly brown hair a big plump nose unibrow and a host of other features that stroke me as distinctly non-Swedish/Non-Northern European.

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    Post Re: Do You Consider Iranians to be Europid?

    there is a common misconception, semits didnt come from mars neither did they come together as a whole, its a language family not a race, and its northern non orientalid speakers like jews, assyrians, lebanese,some syrian/iraqi arabs etc are of caucasoid stock. southern arabs have sub saharan blood which ranges their caucasoid ancestry with a negroid paternal side. as any north semite,turk,jew etc arent europid so arent the persians. end of the story
    Last edited by Axelrod; Friday, July 16th, 2004 at 12:05 AM.

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