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    Were We Stronger when We Were Pagan?

    But the Viking Ages ended. Norwegians, Danes,
    and Swedes became Christians. The Danish sway in
    England came to an end. The Scandinavian peoples
    were superseded as masters of the North Sea and the
    Baltic by English, Dutch, and Germans. The foundation
    of German towns on the southern coast of the
    Baltic Sea, and the foundation of the Hanseatic
    League, was a death-blow to the commerce and shipping
    that had been carried on since the Viking Ages.

    Seafaring and Shipping during the Viking Ages, p. 15 (Prof. Bugge, 1909)

    I see this pattern as I browse through books on Germanic history.

    • The pagan Anglo-Saxons conquered the christian Britons,
    • the pagan Danes conquered the christian Anglo-Saxons and set up the Danelaw,
    • the Danes converted to christianity and were defeated in England by the Anglo-Saxons
    • the pagan Vikings ruled the North Sea until they converted to christianity.

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    Hm, we were more divided when we were pagan, we had more struggles between tribes, but then again we had no central government. We had no written language to pass on our history, only oral traditions.

    We still continued warfare even though we converted, we had crusades to the baltic and into the middle east.

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    We were stronger when we were pagan, we didn't weaken ourselves with a judeo guilt trip. We had the runes, a carved language. If we were to go back to a pagan-dominant culture, I think it would be a unifying experience, rather than the tribal conflicts of the past.

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    Christianity is not a warrior religion like Islam, Christianity is a slave religion.

    In the ver very ancient war between light forces and dark forces the main opponent to dark forces are Aryan people. They have the most light and strength, capacities to create and build, to learn and get wisdom. No other one has that like this.

    Christianity was I invented by Jews. The main representant of dark forces on Earth (the chosen, chosen by a daemon).

    Islam was created by Jews to make a warrior religion for Arabs to destroy the Aryan tribes. in the fleece of Islam conquering Spain where tons of Jewish parasites, working on the further destruction of Aryan people and theenslavement of the conquered tribes. they then infiltrated the German tribes via the Franks,on Charlemagnes court were noticeable Jews, Charlemagne is rumored to be a half Jew by his mothers side.His grandfather made a noble men out of a Jew and married his son to that Jews daughter.

    From then on the fighting spirit diminished over the years and people become slave warriors aka soldiers. (Islamic Mamelucks were Aryan people)

    Hitler woke up the fighting spirit in a very powerful way and it is soon to be to return.

    Watching the children which grow up now, many of them are strangely mature and wise. So I am not worried about the long future. I know that the near future will be a major struggle to free ourselves.
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    I just read this in an old book.

    In the first ages, however, Christianity produced
    among the people, as was the case in other countries
    besides England, a sort of degeneracy and weakness.
    Instead of the din of battle of the heathens there were
    now heard songs and prayers, which, joined with the
    constantly-increasing refinement, made the people dull and
    effeminate, so that they willingly bent under the yoke of
    their masters, both spiritual and temporal. In the ninth,
    tenth, and eleventh centuries the Anglo-Saxons had greatly
    degenerated from their forefathers. Relatives sold one
    another into thraldom; lewdness and ungodliness were
    become habitual ; and cowardice had increased to such a
    degree, that, according to the old chroniclers, one Dane
    would often put ten Anglo-Saxons to flight. Before such
    a people could be conducted to true freedom and greatness
    it was necessary that an entirely new vigour should be
    infused into the decayed stock.

    This vigour was derived from the Scandinavian north,
    where neither Romans nor any other conquerors had
    domineered over the people, and where heathenism with
    all its roughness, and all its love of freedom and bravery,
    still held absolute sway.

    An Account of the Danes and Norwegians in England, Scotland, and Ireland, p.6 (Asmussen, 1852)

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    The tactic to convert Aryans into Christian/slaves and then have them conquered by Arabic Muslim and destroy the Aryan worked nicely in Turkey, Egypt and meditarreanean countries. they got stopped when they met Aryan heathen.

    the next step for Jews then was to convert the heathen into Christians to make them ready for conquering. they did so through Charlemagne.

    The final step in killing the Aryan race you see today.

    Heathen always fought more fiercely than Christians because they were free people, not ones with a slave mentality
    weel nich will dieken dej mot wieken

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    Not only were they free people, but understood that battle and protection of family and folk were honorable endeavors, not something to be shunned in favor of martyrdom.

    What a great way to exterminate a people, but to convert them to a religion that glorifies being tortured to death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearkinder View Post
    Not only were they free people, but understood that battle and protection of family and folk were honorable endeavors, not something to be shunned in favor of martyrdom.

    What a great way to exterminate a people, but to convert them to a religion that glorifies being tortured to death!
    Get real. Ever hear of Teutonic knights?
    Christian soldiers have been among the best in history.
    If christians were not interested in protecting family and folk it is strange that they died by the thousands to defend Europe from islamic invasion.

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    I am real.

    How long after Christianity was introduced were the Teutonic Knights?
    They were the same guys with the same culture, calling god by a different name.

    How long since Christianity was introduced are we today?

    How many Teutonic Knights are there?
    Compare with how many in Europe have bought wholesale into the guilt foisted upon them by the jews. Look at how many think they, themselves should be disarmed and helpless.
    How many listen to preachers tell them to trust god when the enemy comes and if conquered to obey because Christians are to obey the king, ANY king?

    No, once the culture, the warrior-culture was bred out of the European people (or killed off in the sense of WWII), and the people got used to being beaten down, it doesn't matter how Germanic they are, they are slaves, because they have been born, bred and indoctrinated into slavery. Slavery to the lesser races, and slaves of the false guilt pumped intoi them by those who seek their destruction.

    If Christians acted like Teutonic Knights today, there would have been a wholesale slaughter of the dark hordes over running Europe and another Crusade to slaughter them in their homelands until they figured out why you don't f**k with Germans.

    But instead, we have a half-assed campaign run by those evil Americans to "win hearts and minds" (much more effective to just blow them out), with token help by most of the other countries involved. So instead of a proper Crusade, we have men and women dying to kiss the asses of the people who want them dead, giving them free food, medical care, radios, etc, with orders not to shoot back until the request goes through 4 levels of bureaucracy, aith morons wailing that we are going too far.

    No, the religion of slavery has taken its toll.

    We need to reclaim our culture of family and folk, and raise warrior men who will not flinch or weep when it's time to grind their enemies to a thin paste, women who are storng enough to raise their children and provide a proper home for their families, rather than falling into careerism, failing ot have children and whoring themselves to the darkies.

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    Well it all depends. Sometimes pagans would be from a more barbaric lifestyle, and therefore have a natural fierceness that could overcome the more civilized Christian centers.

    There are cases of pagans beating Christians, but overall the Christian Franks defeated all of their opponents, earlier the Christian Goths were the most important Germanic tribe, the Christian Anglo-Saxons mostly defeated the various Viking invasions, the Normans who whooped everyone's butt were Christian, and overall Christians won out over the pagans in many wars, say in Scandinavia for example.

    As to which we were better off overall, I think the obvious answer is Christianity. Christianity introduced the elements of Roman civilization, which included literacy, to the various Germanic kingdoms. Our culture and civilization is essentially a Germanized Rome or a Romanized Germanic world.

    With this added civilization, Germanic people rose to heights not seen within the tribal and pagan times. The most powerful Germanic state of the Early Middle Ages was the Frankish Holy Roman Empire, which was of course Christian. Also throughout the rest of the Middle Ages the story of paganism is repeated losses to Christian forces, say for example in the Baltic crusades mentioned earlier. When Europe conquered the globe and far outstripped the rest of the world, it was when they were Christian.

    In any case, most of the pagan attributes and values of the Germanic people were absorbed into European Christianity. Read this book to learn more:

    http://www.amazon.com/Germanization-...4526712&sr=8-1

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