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    Jesus inverted the noble Aryan warrior values of antiquity. He stigmatised wealth, success and strength and he glorified failure and cowardice. Jesus preached that the successful, happy and powerful would be tortured in eternal fire while the wretched and the poor, the weakling and the coward would inherit the earth. Jesus glorified the slave and the tramp. Its a sick inversion of natural values. The christians in Rome were pacifists and they refused to fight in the Roman armies or even to defend themselves. They embraced martyrdom rather than to ease up on the Jewish intolerance of other religions and their hatred of this world.

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    Matthew 20

    18 So the last shall be first, and the first last.


    Matthew 5

    1And seeing the multitudes, Jesus went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, 3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. 5Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. 6Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. 7Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. 8Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. 9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. 10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.


    No the meek shall not inherit the earth. The pagan Germanic tribes inherited the earth through violent conquest. All Germanic lands were founded by pagans. All Germanic tribes who failed to secure Germanic living space before they converted to christianity ceased to exist, the Franks, the Goths, the Vandals. There would be no Germanics today if it hadnt been for paganism.

    Christianity in its purest form is a death cult. It imagines some other world where all the human failures will be rewarded for their contempt of this world and for their meek martyrdom for Jesus.

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    When Zarathustra arrived at the nearest town which adjoineth the forest, he found many people assembled in the market-place; for it had been announced that a rope-dancer would give a performance. And Zarathustra spake thus unto the people:

    I teach you the Superman. Man is something that is to be surpassed. What have ye done to surpass man?

    All beings hitherto have created something beyond themselves: and ye want to be the ebb of that great tide, and would rather go back to the beast than surpass man?

    What is the ape to man? A laughing-stock, a thing of shame. And just the same shall man be to the Superman: a laughing-stock, a thing of shame.

    Ye have made your way from the worm to man, and much within you is still worm. Once were ye apes, and even yet man is more of an ape than any of the apes.

    Even the wisest among you is only a disharmony and hybrid of plant and phantom. But do I bid you become phantoms or plants?

    Lo, I teach you the Superman!

    The Superman is the meaning of the earth. Let your will say: The Superman shall be the meaning of the earth!

    I conjure you, my brethren, remain true to the earth, and believe not those who speak unto you of superearthly hopes! Poisoners are they, whether they know it or not.

    Despisers of life are they, decaying ones and poisoned ones themselves, of whom the earth is weary: so away with them!

    Once blasphemy against God was the greatest blasphemy; but God died, and therewith also those blasphemers. To blaspheme the earth is now the dreadfulest sin, and to rate the heart of the unknowable higher than the meaning of the earth!

    Nietzsche, Zarathustra's prologue

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    Were We Stronger when We Were Pagan?

    We are stronger in heart, mind, and, soul now; I am Folkish Heathen (pagan if you call it).

    We have the blood of our forefathers and we are reawakening NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrafnodinnsson View Post
    We are stronger in heart, mind, and, soul now; I am Folkish Heathen (pagan if call it).

    We have the blood of our forefathers and we are reawakening NOW!
    So you denounce all your christian forefathers? I would not say Germanics are better off now than in earlier times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    So you denounce all your christian forefathers? I would not say Germanics are better off now than in earlier times...
    Well if you chart the decline of the importance of the church now compared to the middle ages, and the lack of persecution of openly expressing and promoting our beliefs now compared to the middle ages, and for the hell of it throw in living standards and the inter-connectivity which allows us across long distances to continue our beliefs and discuss them openly with all Germanic territories, traditional and new then I don't see how you could say we aren't better off now.
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    The dark ages were not really the dark, and how are Germanics now better off with their nations taken from them? I can't really see how this globalization you speak highly of has been good for us. It has made travel easier and the world smaller so the third world is on our doorstep. All this meaningless trade and travel help to poison nature. All in all it has contributed to many Germanic people to become strangers onto themselves, and you might find this provocative, when they for example feel more attracted to Scandinavians, than their ancestral German people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    So you denounce all your christian forefathers
    I didnt say that. I cannot denounce my blood, can you? I can say that my X-ian forefathers were quite misguided religiously and spiritually, but their Folk-Soul is well and alive because I am Heathen, therefore our Heathen Folk-soul lived through them to pass to me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dvergr
    Well if you chart the decline of the importance of the church now compared to the middle ages, and the lack of persecution of openly expressing and promoting our beliefs now compared to the middle ages, and for the hell of it throw in living standards and the inter-connectivity which allows us across long distances to continue our beliefs and discuss them openly with all Germanic territories, traditional and new then I don't see how you could say we aren't better off now.
    I agree with you, this sounds accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    The dark ages were not really the dark, and how are Germanics now better off with their nations taken from them? I can't really see how this globalization you speak highly of has been good for us. It has made travel easier and the world smaller so the third world is on our doorstep. All this meaningless trade and travel help to poison nature. All in all it has contributed to many Germanic people to become strangers onto themselves, and you might find this provocative, when they for example feel more attracted to Scandinavians, than their ancestral German people.
    Of course they weren't dark, the Roman Empire was declining, that's why I said "Middle Ages"

    I never said Globalization either, which refers to generally a cultural and economic melting pot. I said Inter-connectivity, not to be confused with interconnectedness. A network of social interaction between common people with common interests. So at least lets start without putting words in my mouth.

    Trade and travel has and always was whatever you make of it. Was it necessary for the Chinese to bring Cabbages to Europe in the ancient days ? Was Molasses really that important in the 1600's ? Look, this stuff is always going to exist regardless of if you get rid of the internet or the planes. Boats are going to sail around the world, trade and travel. Foreigners are going to enter your land. Unlike those days, we actually have stricter immigration laws around the world. There was a time not long ago where you could just sail on over to the US and stay as long as you like. Hell, while you were at it you might as well go settle west. I bet around that time while everyone was fleeing Europe you could even move around those countries if you wanted, or move from here to there. Immigration was way more open and accepted back then, we might see a lot of foreigners now but that doesn't mean EVERYONE is allowed into every country, there is just more people.

    The problem is more people, not today's access to technology. People are going to travel regardless of if we have horses or inter-stellar space ships. And these people are going to attempt to get into our land, someone else's land and a new land. So I wouldn't exactly blame technology on today's day and age of immigration, I'd blame in on exactly what you said, Globalization. Socialist countries paying for foreigners to live in their country so they can tax them. Sure it would be great to live in another day and age, but I am not going to ruin today because of what will happen tomorrow. I am comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    ...and how are Germanics now better off with their nations taken from them?
    A process in which the church helped a great deal to bring this about. When they lost influence (in the wake of the French Revolution, all the various empires before were still governed by Vatikan basically) and the national sentiment grew in the 19th century in all of Europe, you find the church and their christian parties allied with the Marxists, as a united force against the attempts to build true national states.

    I dont know how this can be ignored. The Marxist idea of the "United States of Europe" was the perfectly in line with the Vatikan's wet dream of a "christian Europe", and when that was threatened through the National Awakening, they sided with them, against Folk, against Blood, against Self-Determination, and against Nature. With that decision christianity lost each and every credibility they may or may not have had, and they proved that they are the enemies of everything Folkish. If anyone had missed that before, this should at last be the final nail in the coffin of christianity.
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    Indeed Christianity has done much to undermine Afrikaners over the last 50 years or so and now it is gaining momentum and helping spread the rot, Humanism has replaced the gospel... Or was that the gospel? Although as a separate people from Europe we never really knew Pagan believes within our own context.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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